U.S., Dozens of Rogue California Police Agencies Still Sharing Driver Locations with Anti-Abortion States (www.eff.org)
from 0x815@feddit.de to privacy@lemmy.ca on 04 Feb 2024 14:56
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The EFF and ACLU letter lists 35 specific police agencies which either have informed the civil liberties organizations that they plan to keep sharing ALPR information with out-of-state law enforcement, or have failed to confirm their compliance with the law in response to inquiries by the organizations.

“We urge your office to explore all potential avenues to ensure that state and local law enforcement agencies immediately comply,” the letter said. “We are deeply concerned that the information could be shared with agencies that do not respect California’s commitment to civil rights and liberties and are not covered by California’s privacy protections.”

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aelwero@lemmy.world on 04 Feb 2024 16:17 next collapse

Totally fine for California to have all that data though…

I don’t think the sharing part is really the issue here.

DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca on 04 Feb 2024 16:52 next collapse

Yeah, fuck that. The day I learn my car is being tracked is the day I start covering my license plate.

HeapOfDogs@lemmy.world on 04 Feb 2024 17:19 next collapse

Its today

DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca on 05 Feb 2024 07:30 collapse

I don’t live in an area with street cameras or even regular police patrols. There’s obviously record of me owning the car but I’d be surprised if there’s any footage anywhere of me driving it other than the private CCTV of different local fuel stations and I never go to the one closest to my house since I’ve been told the fuel there is of lower quality.

Godwins_Law@lemmy.ca on 04 Feb 2024 18:05 collapse

You’re going to need a time machine then.

Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world on 04 Feb 2024 21:14 next collapse

Lol credit agencies have been selling this service for years to Repomen and PIs amongst other groups who buy and sell this data regularly. One commercially available option from TransUnion: www.tlo.com/vehicle-sightings

DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca on 05 Feb 2024 07:26 collapse

I’ll make sure to reach 88mph while the fuzz is chasing me.

PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social on 04 Feb 2024 20:07 next collapse

It's not California. It's a private company that police departments pay in order to go around the 4th amendment.

deweydecibel@lemmy.world on 04 Feb 2024 22:16 collapse

One of which is named “Flock Safety”. Flock, as in what birds and sheep do. Just to add an extra layer of dehumanization.

PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social on 04 Feb 2024 23:30 collapse

That's the one my town uses. They keep adding more and more cameras around town because the police can't solve crimes. It's easy to bypass them though, just walk or ride a bike.

dubyakay@lemmy.ca on 05 Feb 2024 05:09 next collapse

Or use public transit?

deweydecibel@lemmy.world on 05 Feb 2024 18:23 collapse

I mean, sure, if you don’t have to travel more than a couple miles. And you’re not disabled.

deweydecibel@lemmy.world on 04 Feb 2024 22:12 collapse

They’re both issues.

ALPR Databases

Most of this ALPR data is stored in databases for extended periods of time—often as long as five years. The databases may be maintained by the police departments, but often they are maintained by private companies such as Vigilant Solutions or Flock Safety. Law enforcement agencies without their own ALPR systems can access data collected by other law enforcement agencies through regional sharing systems and networks operated by these private companies. Several companies operate independent, non-law enforcement ALPR databases, contracting with drivers to put cameras on private vehicles to collect the information. These data are then sold to companies like insurers, but law enforcement can also purchase access to this commercial data on a subscription basis.

sls.eff.org/…/automated-license-plate-readers-alp…

The government does not own the database, nor is this a California wide thing. This is local police departments being permitted to use private companies to maintain databases of citizen activity, and those private companies have developed a robust system to share that information.

Remembering of course that these cameras are mounted on public infrastructure. People are paying taxes, and that tax money is being used to buy, mount, and maintain these camera systems, but the actual data is not in a database the government of California (and by extension the citizens of California) has direct control over.

It would actually be better if the state of California had its own database because it would be more scrutinized than these random private databases that cops are allowed to put together and host on some private companies server.

spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works on 04 Feb 2024 17:04 next collapse

ACAB.

Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website on 04 Feb 2024 17:45 next collapse

If there’s a state law that local police aren’t adhering to, there’s only one course of action.

Clear the local police station with state police until replacements who can follow their own laws are found and properly trained.

The ones who refused to follow the law are subject to the full penalties of failing to do so.

In other words: STOP FUCKING TREATING THEM WITH KID GLOVES AND START TREATING THEM LIKE YOU WOULD ANYONE ELSE

jayrhacker@kbin.social on 04 Feb 2024 18:43 collapse
MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com on 04 Feb 2024 19:42 collapse

It is the people that work there that is doing the sharing not some agency doing it.

lolcatnip@reddthat.com on 04 Feb 2024 23:31 collapse

The people who work at an agency are the agency.