Google Chrome's new "IP Protection" will hide users' IP addresses (www.bleepingcomputer.com)
from ono@lemmy.ca to privacy@lemmy.ca on 23 Oct 2023 22:43
https://lemmy.ca/post/7823942

#privacy

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ono@lemmy.ca on 23 Oct 2023 22:50 next collapse

We have every reason to be skeptical of Google where privacy is concerned, but the design described here looks interesting. In particular, proxying only the off-site resources, and running them through two proxy layers from different providers.

I still won’t use Chrome, but if the design holds up to scrutiny, something like it on Firefox (with configurable independent proxy providers) could be appealing.

themeatbridge@lemmy.world on 23 Oct 2023 23:30 next collapse

So, instead of companies tracking your IP address, they will have to pay Google to buy your IP address, along with your Google account info and demographics.

astray@lemm.ee on 24 Oct 2023 00:35 collapse

They stopped caring about your ip address and have moved to profiling, so they’ll gladly help you change your ip address to get more from you.

[deleted] on 24 Oct 2023 02:08 collapse
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nathris@lemmy.ca on 24 Oct 2023 02:56 collapse

At least it’s only the off site resources. As someone who works with credit card processing online and has to deal with BIN attacks those proxy IPs would get banned pretty quickly both by us and the credit card processor. We already have issues with people using free proxies.

[deleted] on 23 Oct 2023 23:21 next collapse
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mp3@lemmy.ca on 23 Oct 2023 23:32 next collapse

User ➡ Google ➡ Cloudflare ➡ Hosting Provider ➡ Web Server

Google just want to get that sweet user data to sell to advertisers that Cloudflare would get otherwise.

[deleted] on 23 Oct 2023 23:36 collapse
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0xD@infosec.pub on 24 Oct 2023 16:04 collapse

*a list of domains

The URL, as well as the rest of the HTTP request, are encrypted when communicating over HTTPS.

[deleted] on 24 Oct 2023 16:39 collapse
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Taleya@aussie.zone on 24 Oct 2023 00:20 collapse

They really seem intent on getting total traffic control

nik282000@lemmy.ca on 24 Oct 2023 01:00 next collapse

Google doesn’t want to keep your information private, they want to keep it private from everyone else.

aeternum@kbin.social on 24 Oct 2023 15:13 next collapse

unless they pay for it*

Anticorp@lemmy.ml on 25 Oct 2023 06:28 collapse

And then sell it to them.

sir_reginald@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 2023 01:45 next collapse

my comment on the same topic:

Since most of Google’s revenue comes from tracking users across the internet and offering them personalized ads, it will be interesting to see how the company strikes a balance between user privacy and revenue generation.

Isn’t it obvious? Google own’s the proxies. And judging by the look of this, they are going to act as a a Man In The Middle for HTTPS, so they will be actually able to see everyone’s plain text connections. This is not a privacy feature, but a privacy nightmare. Like everything else on Chrome, tbh

Edit: I don’t know if they will be breaking HTTPS or no, since I didn’t see the details of how this works. But even if they don’t see your plain text traffic, they are logging your every request, which is scary.

[deleted] on 24 Oct 2023 06:26 next collapse
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vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de on 24 Oct 2023 07:46 next collapse

by making it so that it is hidden to anyone, except for google. It is not possible to hide your ip completely online. Your ip address is the only way for anyone to reach you. The only way to hide your ip from someone is to have someone else (who does know your ip address) make the request on your behalf, and forward data forward and back between the two endpoints. Everything has to go through the middleman.

Google will be that middleman

Acters@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 2023 10:30 next collapse

Google is ready for that “sacrifice” on your behalf.

0xD@infosec.pub on 24 Oct 2023 16:02 next collapse

Yeah but Google will know it either way, so it really doesn’t matter. Not that IPs really matter anyway.

vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de on 24 Oct 2023 16:51 next collapse

they know your ip anyway. everyone does. It’s your only identifier online. I’d rather not send all my data through them anyway.

corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca on 26 Oct 2023 19:39 next collapse

Ironically you’re probably writing on the most tracked OS ever, odds are.

Anticorp@lemmy.ml on 26 Oct 2023 20:00 collapse

That’s why you use a VPN.

vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Oct 2023 05:08 collapse

this is a vpn.

Anticorp@lemmy.ml on 27 Oct 2023 07:43 collapse

It’s a Google VPN, which means they own it, which means they see literally everything you do if you use it, rather than just seeing what you do if you visit a page with their tracking and you don’t block their cookies and scripts.

vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Oct 2023 09:54 collapse

as opposed to someone else seeing all your traffic, if it were owned by anyone else.

Anticorp@lemmy.ml on 27 Oct 2023 10:07 collapse

The difference is that those companies presumably don’t run the biggest advertising agency in the world, don’t cooperate with governments, and don’t log your history or original IP address. Using Google as a VPN provider in oppressive countries that punish free speech online could present a serious hazard. Plus there’s just the overall privacy issue too.

Anticorp@lemmy.ml on 25 Oct 2023 06:27 collapse

Google wouldn’t know it either way. What even is this sentiment? Google doesn’t own the internet. Don’t use their services and use a VPN.

Anticorp@lemmy.ml on 25 Oct 2023 06:26 collapse

Yup, they will get access to literally everything you do online.

corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca on 26 Oct 2023 19:38 collapse

The joke’s on them: I do nothing online in a literal fashion. #litchally

Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee on 24 Oct 2023 09:57 next collapse

So companies can still get your IP the same as before, they just have to pay Google now to get it

ygghnuf62@lemmy.ca on 25 Oct 2023 05:05 next collapse

Google is the reason we need IP protection.

mojo@lemm.ee on 25 Oct 2023 07:28 next collapse

Reading the GitHub, it’s actually not a bad idea if you’re allowed to change the cdn

[deleted] on 25 Oct 2023 16:59 next collapse
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AlbinJose121@endlesstalk.org on 06 Nov 2023 15:02 collapse

Chrome is itself a bloated spyware. So who cares ?