kautau@lemmy.world
on 05 Nov 2023 22:34
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Sure but he’s also now just in the world of “so much money I’m having trouble spending it.”
But don’t feel too sorry for him, as he has already sold around $8 billion worth of his Facebook stock since 2015, helping him amass a fortune of over $10 billion, according to Bloomberg’s Billionaire Index.
“I’m taking some time off to do things I enjoy outside of technology, such as collecting rare air-cooled Porsches.”
While I fully support his decision to leave, I doubt the $1bn in Facebook shares was a massive concern. It took him 4 years to leave after the acquisition.
thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca
on 07 Nov 2023 00:17
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Willingly condemning himself to the wretched life of a niche luxury car enthusiast. So brave.
Jk, kind of-- His decision does actually seem principled and honorable, but this context is germane.
Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Nov 2023 06:53
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And used some of the money he did get to start Signal
hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world
on 05 Nov 2023 19:16
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Squizzy@lemmy.world
on 05 Nov 2023 19:35
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Signal has missed it’s shot, gave up SMS and focuses on emojis and other similar updates instead of improving the quality of the app.
I have been blocked from messaging a person on signal for years, I send a message and they can’t get it and same for them. We have updated the security number between us, reinstalled and changed phones but they’ve never provided a reason for why it could happen.
You also have to open the gallery to send two pics instead of being able to select multiple.
sadreality@kbin.social
on 05 Nov 2023 19:43
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I have a feeling that current CEO was out in place to gutt signal mass adoption.
droopy4096@lemmy.ca
on 06 Nov 2023 04:51
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Signal has it’s share of problems. But those look to be technical problems, not intentional design malice. So I’ll stick with glitchy Signal until something better rolls around.
moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Nov 2023 07:12
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The majority of the potential user are outside the US. They would have to maintain the sms feature for this market. The grow is elsewhere with their use of the app.
hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world
on 06 Nov 2023 16:00
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I’m not sure what you mean by “gave up on SMS.” What were they supposed to do with SMS (which is an outdated protocol anyways)? I get the small convenience of sending all your messages from one app (Signal), but I also understand the justification and wanting to prevent confusion about texting Signal-encrypted messages vs. SMS messages from the same app.
I can’t speak to the whole blocking thing, but it sounds like an extremely unique, isolated instance.
You also have to open the gallery to send two pics instead of being able to select multiple.
Seems like a very minor UX issue that can be fixed and is not worth sending unencrypted messages for.
Also: Saying Signal “missed its shot” is very cynical and absolutist, which in turn can make people feel hopeless about getting their digital privacy back and taking back at lest some control of their lives, which doesn’t exactly advance the values of the privacy community.
I like and support digital privacy but the fact is I’ve been using signal for the better part of a decade and with the exception of my partner, who I encouraged to use it with, and my sister who for some unique reason I can’t, I have one contact in my phone book who I can use signal with.
Having missed it’s shot is not an indictment of the technology but rather it’s application in the signal app. They priortise weird shite like upgrading emojis and adding stories instead of addressing issues that would impact growth.
The people who want these features are not the people who will use a niche messaging app, it’s better to add these features after significantly more growth.
ForestOrca@kbin.social
on 05 Nov 2023 19:43
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Came here to say the same. Use Signal.
whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 06 Nov 2023 08:09
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Literally no one I know uses signal, am I supposed to message myself?
DahGangalang@infosec.pub
on 06 Nov 2023 20:45
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Rentlar@lemmy.ca
on 05 Nov 2023 19:21
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You can thank Facebook / Meta for that. As a FB product it’s one of those things I try to touch as little as possible outside of when I need to talk to someone through it.
MiddledAgedGuy@beehaw.org
on 05 Nov 2023 19:47
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I don’t know your life of course, so maybe this won’t work for you. But I had a similar hangup. So I figured who it was really important to keep in contact with, made sure I had a way to do so (phone numbers, usually). Then deleted my account.
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Because Facebook bought it. The founder of WhatsApp famously left an absolute fuckton of money - as in, roughly a billion US dollars - on the table because he was so infuriated by how quickly they started to bastardize his creation.
Facebook is remarkably talented at turning great products into absolute trash, bottom of the barrel stuff.
"Koum’s co-founder Brian Acton also recently left Facebook, and last month joined the campaign to delete the social network in the wake of the Cambridge Analytica scandal." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/04/deletefacebook-or-not-deletefacebook-not-question
Sure but he’s also now just in the world of “so much money I’m having trouble spending it.”
While I fully support his decision to leave, I doubt the $1bn in Facebook shares was a massive concern. It took him 4 years to leave after the acquisition.
Willingly condemning himself to the wretched life of a niche luxury car enthusiast. So brave.
Jk, kind of-- His decision does actually seem principled and honorable, but this context is germane.
And used some of the money he did get to start Signal
Obligatory: use Signal
All the reasons why Signal is better than WhatsApp and iMessage
Signal has missed it’s shot, gave up SMS and focuses on emojis and other similar updates instead of improving the quality of the app.
I have been blocked from messaging a person on signal for years, I send a message and they can’t get it and same for them. We have updated the security number between us, reinstalled and changed phones but they’ve never provided a reason for why it could happen.
You also have to open the gallery to send two pics instead of being able to select multiple.
I have a feeling that current CEO was out in place to gutt signal mass adoption.
Signal has it’s share of problems. But those look to be technical problems, not intentional design malice. So I’ll stick with glitchy Signal until something better rolls around.
The majority of the potential user are outside the US. They would have to maintain the sms feature for this market. The grow is elsewhere with their use of the app.
I’m not sure what you mean by “gave up on SMS.” What were they supposed to do with SMS (which is an outdated protocol anyways)? I get the small convenience of sending all your messages from one app (Signal), but I also understand the justification and wanting to prevent confusion about texting Signal-encrypted messages vs. SMS messages from the same app.
I can’t speak to the whole blocking thing, but it sounds like an extremely unique, isolated instance.
Seems like a very minor UX issue that can be fixed and is not worth sending unencrypted messages for.
Also: Saying Signal “missed its shot” is very cynical and absolutist, which in turn can make people feel hopeless about getting their digital privacy back and taking back at lest some control of their lives, which doesn’t exactly advance the values of the privacy community.
I like and support digital privacy but the fact is I’ve been using signal for the better part of a decade and with the exception of my partner, who I encouraged to use it with, and my sister who for some unique reason I can’t, I have one contact in my phone book who I can use signal with.
Having missed it’s shot is not an indictment of the technology but rather it’s application in the signal app. They priortise weird shite like upgrading emojis and adding stories instead of addressing issues that would impact growth.
The people who want these features are not the people who will use a niche messaging app, it’s better to add these features after significantly more growth.
Came here to say the same. Use Signal.
Literally no one I know uses signal, am I supposed to message myself?
Just get better friends. It’s that easy.
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[Real] Friends don’t let friends use WhatsApp.
;)
You can thank Facebook / Meta for that. As a FB product it’s one of those things I try to touch as little as possible outside of when I need to talk to someone through it.
I don’t know your life of course, so maybe this won’t work for you. But I had a similar hangup. So I figured who it was really important to keep in contact with, made sure I had a way to do so (phone numbers, usually). Then deleted my account.
Everyone has voice, sms, and e-mail. If they can’t contact me by one of those it’s their problem.
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