Your Therapists’ Notes Could Become Fodder For AI (jacobin.com)
from PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social to privacy@lemmy.ca on 17 Sep 17:01
https://piefed.social/post/1273327

#privacy #technology

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gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 17:55 next collapse

Mine won’t, because she hates that shit at about the same level that I do.

PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 18:28 next collapse

Ha, nope, because I internalise my trauma with destructive coping strategies due to being unable to afford a therapist, like a real man (or woman, or gender of choice, being fucked up doesn’t have gender-based borders)

AntiBullyRanger@ani.social on 17 Sep 18:36 collapse

😭🫂

TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 18:43 next collapse

Aren’t the ethics rules that notes are only for the therapist?

Not even clients get to see their own notes.

That said, I dated a therapist once. And she was glad to share with me the notes on her patients. Lots of unethical therapists out there.

iii@mander.xyz on 17 Sep 20:36 next collapse

that notes are only for the therapist?

They might think that they’re doing so, yet still use onedrive / google docs. Ignorance - inexcusable ignorance if you ask me - but sadly not rare.

BanMe@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 21:42 collapse

Law now says clients have to be given access to their notes, you can probably access them through a web portal or by asking. That said I do not encourage people to do so regularly because it creates the wrong kind of feedback loop where you’re trying to influence the notes instead of following your therapist’s (hopefully) guidance.

But HIPAA rules apply to notes, for instance the therapists I support have 365 HIPAA or better (self hosting has its own problems and most therapists aren’t scaled for it).

BuoyantCitrus@lemmy.ca on 17 Sep 21:53 collapse

So I suppose I’d have no hope of finding a therapist where notes are local-only on airgapped (eg. no nic, never online) devices and remote sessions, if offered, are over Signal?

hddsx@lemmy.ca on 18 Sep 00:33 next collapse

Signal is not HIPAA compliant

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 18 Sep 02:45 collapse

i am not singal simp but whatever HIPAA complaint means, does not mean shit from tech perspective lol

singal can at least deliver data encrypted end to end unlike a lot of these SAAS

hddsx@lemmy.ca on 18 Sep 05:41 collapse

HIPAA affects the technical implementation because the law requires certain features that signal lacks. Without those features, signal cannot be used for healthcare in the US.

www.hipaajournal.com/is-signal-hipaa-compliant/

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 18 Sep 06:09 collapse

I don't think you understand the law making processes within the us

iii@mander.xyz on 18 Sep 08:43 collapse

Mine simply doesn’t take notes. We just walk and talk.

BanMe@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 21:39 next collapse

I am the IT support for my SO’s therapy business and we’ve already reviewed and rejected these tools, and I’m expanding out to start to advise other therapists as well. So, it’s not happening everywhere nor is it unnoticed.

medem@lemmy.wtf on 17 Sep 21:46 next collapse

That looks EXACTLY like Backroom Casting Couch, I’m sorry 😂😂😂.

Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works on 18 Sep 00:32 collapse

Even the expression on her face is almost as enthusiastic

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 18 Sep 02:46 next collapse

I never understood people trusting these quacks... back in my day a network of friends did this function.

sure sometimes gossip would leak but at least it was not recorded for the government and corpos to exploit.

3abas@lemmy.world on 18 Sep 05:47 collapse

Capitalism replaces friends with acquaintances.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 18 Sep 06:08 collapse

It doesn't have but it do BC we let it

plz1@lemmy.world on 18 Sep 05:53 next collapse

Cool, so do we get to sue the therapists for HIPAA violations, the AI company, or both? “I didn’t know” isn’t a legal defense, last I checked.

ChexMax@lemmy.world on 18 Sep 06:22 collapse

Jokes on them, my therapist doesn’t take notes. She’s not very good