bruh they are asking for my home address now?
from Quintus@lemmy.ml to privacy@lemmy.ml on 04 May 16:55
https://lemmy.ml/post/29586148
from Quintus@lemmy.ml to privacy@lemmy.ml on 04 May 16:55
https://lemmy.ml/post/29586148
I fuckin’ signed in to YouTube with my existing account damn it
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You can skip that step. Not that it’s okay, tho.
For now.
not for now, but forever. they’d be in huge trouble with EU regulations should they ever dare to change it
For now.
They already force phone numbers in the EU.
Literally every of these Google “add information xy” boxes has been skippable for years now
Phone number?
Next year:
There are some people who will put this data, the ones who usually agree to all cookies. So even if you let users skip, with some dark patterns you can manage to influence a lot of people. Example: I set up local windows accounts for a couple of family members, yet somehow a week later or so they had online Microsoft accounts connected.
More like asking you to confirm what they already know.
Yeah, ridiculous isn’t it.
Recently validated data has more value tho
Bruh, I was testing some android features and wiped an android phone, then when I tried to log in again, they wanted a verification code from the previous device, the one I just wiped. Not even will a phone number satisfy them.
<img alt="" src="https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/acdca9d7-ef87-402f-849c-b3c8dd691946.jpeg">
Its essentially locked out, unless I get a time machine to undo wiping the phone.
I mean, what happens if someone lose their phone and wants to log in to google to wipe their device? Like… how would you obtain the verification code on a phone a thief now has?
Its just even just privacy issues, Google is braindead when it come to their “security”.
Luckily, I wiped it in settings so FRP was off.
No, this is user error. It clearly strongly recommended you to print out your backup code when the MFA was enabled. If you forgot or ignored it and then wiped an important phone, that’s on you.
MFA was never enabled.
Okay, so I attempted to access it again. Its currently in a weird state of partial access.
I can “log in” but as soon as I try to access anything, say, Gmail, I get that screen again.
This is what the settings page looks like:
So its not totally locked out, but its not functional either, I’m not even on a VPN.
<img alt="" src="https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/224e45eb-e9df-44a3-bd20-7a62a0e5123b.jpeg">
Notice, 2FA is off.
Then I click Gmail and get this:
<img alt="" src="https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/3b55d654-afdd-47d2-a538-13436eaed929.jpeg">
I tap “more ways to verify” and get this:
<img alt="" src="https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/c423d720-020a-4e91-9340-60d7e757cc1a.jpeg">
I tap the only option, and it circles back to the previous screen.
🤷♂️
I once had an issue logging in to Google where they wanted to verify me some way that I couldn’t complete. I eventually got around it by going through the “Forgot Password” workflow instead of logging in normally. I have no idea if this still works or whether it will make things worse for you, but if all else fails it might be worth a try.
I like that when you come across one of the many Google dark patterns and complain about it, a fanboy always shows up out of nowhere to tell you it’s impossible and you did something wrong.
I like how you conveniently cropped out the “try another way” button:
<img alt="" src="https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/44f3e1fc-3825-410b-b9bf-49273ddf9888.png">
Read my other comment. It leads back to the same thing.
You mean the “fuck you, go in an infinite circle” button?
Oh? Just what I was looking for! An opportunity to be manipulated more effectively by my owners.
Haha, cute.
I mean this isn’t new. How do you think you can say go to work or go home and have maps take you there.
It’s less creepy than asking “This is your home address, isn’t it?”
Yeh, not like they can’t work it out.
(That said, they have no idea about my house number because I can’t get them to understand the building I’m in has multiple houses in it…)
Yeah, pretty sure I remember clicking skip on this as many as 5 years ago. Google Maps has asked to store your home address for as long as I can remember.
Seeing this post made me realize I have fallen for this trap already.
What kind of bullshit is this?
God, I dislike Google so much. Funny to remember that once their motto used to be, “Do no evil.” Ha, good times.
9876 rode st., vilij, provençe 012345
Use Google’s address.
With your phone they already know it and where you are in every moment, if you don’t desactivate GPS.
Unless you live in an apartment.
It’s been doing this for over a decade. It’s used by maps to create automatic pins for home and work, for easier routing (and profit if course).
Puts: 123 Fake St
Hey! I live there!
Whoa. We’re housemates!
Yeah, and they still owe us money for the electricity bill
Use Google’s address.
Just click skip? They just use it for traffic notifications on maps and stuff.
But at some point, there will be no skip button. You know it, I know it, we all know it. This is like the creepy uncle who starts out by giving you candy and playing football in the yard. Then he wants you to sit on his lap before candy or football, but you can jump off whenever, until the day, he won’t let you. That is what these companies have been doing. I still remember the arm twisting they did when they took over youtube and we all liked youtube so much, we ended up giving in to it.
The end game for them is to own all your personal information and have total control over your online activity. Them giving you a skip button is a fake comfort. They probably already know where you live too.
For my part, I have just accepted that my basic bitch info is out there. Whatever I haven’t shared myself, have been shared either by a phone book service in my country or by databrokers who have sold my info to random companies and scammers.
Anonymity online is an illusion unless you are a very tech savvy which most of us are not.
I was just thinking how much we’ve lost. Each generation grows up with this stuff being normalized by people saying “it’s fine just skip it”. But the early days of the internet was so much different compared to the people today.
It took them less than a decade to make us accept this new order online. From 2010 to 2015 more or less.
Personally, I miss when online communities were places where you shared things you found online. I miss when it was a place where you could personalize your profiles and where people still enjoyed reading blogs and things like that.
I miss when the internet was for people and not for corporations.
It was scary back then too, with pedos, hackers and so on, but it does hit differently when corporations are in control of how we interact with one another and they get to set the rules for what they can demand of you before connecting you with their platforms.
I do hope that someday this corporate chokehold on the internet will collapse and we will see a revival of true free and creative “social media” like it used to be. I miss the blogs and the forums and the art sharing sites that didn’t suck ass like they do nowadays.
Totally agree on the pre-2010 internet being more human. Now not only the platforms are centralized, half of the blogs you find are now AI generated incoherent garbage.
There is still good stuff, but now you have to work really hard to find it among AI slop, Ads, paywalls etc.
I hope the fediverse can establish a new form of the old internet. Lemmy instances are now the self hosted phpBB forums of this decade. And even on the corporate platforms there are some thriving niche communities.
Maybe it was just that the pre-2010 internet was driven primarily by nerds of some form. With the smartphone it went fully mainstream, and that broke it. It got streamlined and commodified and monetized to turn any kind of “engagement” into profits, instead of, well, just being a place where many random quirky people are doing their thing and sharing cool stuff.
Remember when “Homepage” was still a concept? Now I guess for most people it’s their Instagram profile, or something like that.
I blame content creators. The minute PewDiePie made a million, it was game over. There should’ve been a unified front from the start to reject the PewDiePie model. We didn’t see it for what it really was. The internet was always going to get taken over by profit-driven motives. The only way to stop that would’ve been making the internet a hostile place for people chasing profits.
Think about the timeline. Profit focus leads to ads and data collection. That leads to political groups using that data to run research and push propaganda. Corporations are gonna do what they do. Blame isn’t a light switch—it’s a pie chart. And if we don’t start naming the villain, we’re going to lose the next space too. Whatever space we think is ours. We have to stay sharp when the profit seekers show up, even if it’s just some cool comic book guy trying to sell a few books. They all end up in the same place.
Any space created by hackers and nerds should create a new religion of sorts with principals and values to prevent another take over of whatever space they create in the future.
Sounds like the teaser for “CommieNet: The Nerds Strike Back”, but on a serious note, I think you are right.
In some sense, digital resources are non-scarce resources, they can be copied and multiplied. There is no capitalistic pressure innate to information, not in the way we consider other resources to be scarce.
But such a digital utopia still would have costs for hosting the content and it would need to stay afloat in the profit-oriented world with finite resources and hard costs for running servers. So it would have to be donation based, or subscription based. Ironically, inside it would have to be strict about prohibiting anything that is effectively monetizing anything that happens inside.
And someone would get the money earned from these subscriptions or fees and this would necessarily end up being some non-profit organization which would have to be somehow community driven, and would decide what is accepted in the space it has to take care of.
But this sounds like a kind of internal governance, like a whole state, a body of rules, that exists within the community of everyone participating in that special network. This council would have responsibility to prevent corruption on the network and at the same time prevent it’s own corruption.
I could go on, but I guess it’s pretty clear that creating a uncorruptible social space is exactly the same problem as creating an uncorruptible truly democratic society. If you figure this out for an internet platform, you have figured it out for the real world.
So I guess it’s not gonna happen ever. It goes always like this - something nice grows, at some point it starts to rot, implodes, from the ashes something new can emerge, rinse and repeat. Just humans being humans.
This is a very long comment when they definitely already know users addresses, lol
They use it for Google Maps as a pin. Nothing new, and not particularly weird either. You can just skip it and not tell them.
Skip
We may not always have that option…
Where?
Seems like you can remove that address later as google said themselves in that screenshot.
Just enter
127.0.0.1Aaaand now 1,337 other users can reset your password and steal your account.
Elite
31337
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~ sweet ~
They don’t even pretend it’s for security reasons and just admit it’s for ads 🤣
Trust me, Google already knows your home address.
also, I know yours.
There’s a shit ton of new regulations and they’re probably trying to figure out what filters and shit to apply to which viewers
I already gave up on Google when they started forcing you to send them your ID to watch age restricted videos.
This was fun when my business address was some office I’d never been to.