UK creating ‘murder prediction’ tool to identify people most likely to kill (www.theguardian.com)
from schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de to privacy@lemmy.ml on 09 Apr 11:06
https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/33996915

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Viri4thus@feddit.org on 09 Apr 11:16 next collapse

Oh, I’ve seen this one. where’s scientology Tom in this episode?

ExtravagantEnzyme@lemm.ee on 09 Apr 11:25 collapse

Or the bald predictor gals laying in water?

disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 12:14 collapse

The precogs were FMM. They were named after famous crime fiction authors, Agatha (Christie), Dash (Dashiell Hammett), and Arthur (Conan Doyle).

ka1ikasan@lemmy.zip on 11 Apr 08:05 collapse

Didn’t know that, that’s cool!

FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website on 09 Apr 11:41 next collapse

Will this drive the first wrongfully accused person to suicide or will it just somehow, magically, target all brown and black people? Stay tuned to see how much taxpayer money gets sunk into this tool.

Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de on 09 Apr 11:49 next collapse

Guilty until proven innocent.

SoulWager@lemmy.ml on 09 Apr 12:36 next collapse

Pretty easy to prove you didn’t commit a crime that hasn’t happened, no?

LiamTheBox@lemmy.ml on 09 Apr 12:43 next collapse
FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml on 09 Apr 12:46 collapse

Yes just tell the pig that you did not do it and he will release you

nevm@lemmy.ml on 09 Apr 15:44 collapse

It’s how the police view you anyway.

doingthestuff@lemy.lol on 09 Apr 11:52 next collapse

There’s no possible way this could go badly.

Korkki@lemmy.ml on 09 Apr 11:58 next collapse

Will the British cabinet be automatically included on the list?

CashDragon@realbitcoin.cash on 09 Apr 11:58 next collapse

Just visit congress.gov and you have your list.

ThePyroPython@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 12:01 next collapse

Let me guess: Palantir

quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 09 Apr 12:07 next collapse

apparently Uk govt has never played watch dogs legion, nor seen Equilibrium (C Bale movie), nor Minority Report, nor Richard III, nor read Brave New World, nor the billion other movies, novels, games, poems, songs, Banksy art, social videos, cave paintings, etc that specifically warned UK not to (re)become the villain (over and over again)

it’s like the 2nd most popular culture topic… after “love” or something

but noooo, just had to be edgelordsandladies.gov.uk

Fizz@lemmy.nz on 09 Apr 13:26 next collapse

“What can we do to improve society, I know I’ll watch some dystopian SciFi for ideas” - the UK government probably

Kobo@sh.itjust.works on 10 Apr 18:56 next collapse

Fuck around, find out, double down

AnotherHelldiver@jlai.lu on 10 Apr 20:28 collapse

Psycho Pass.

Another one to the list. Great anime. It’s like if Blade Runner and Minority Report had a loving relationship and a beautiful child was the byproduct of this union.

variaatio@sopuli.xyz on 09 Apr 12:14 next collapse

Is it April fools? please still be April’s fools, checks calendar, dammit, not April’s fools still. It’s actually news.

ryannathans@aussie.zone on 09 Apr 12:24 next collapse

Isn’t this the TV show Person of Interest?

1hitsong@lemmy.ml on 09 Apr 16:21 collapse

You are being watched…

wise_pancake@lemmy.ca on 09 Apr 13:32 next collapse

Prediction: this gets used to surveil dissidents and minorities disproportionately.

Tikiporch@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 14:18 next collapse

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skrlet13@feddit.cl on 09 Apr 14:22 next collapse

Psycho Pass called, you missed its point

Zetta@mander.xyz on 09 Apr 18:09 collapse

“UK developing new hybrid non lethal/lethal weapon that will use murder risk prediction score to select operating mode. This amazing invention will cut down on police related deaths, learn more tonight on BBC.”

<img alt="" src="https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Psycho-Pass-Dominator-Loaded.jpg">

I swear the UK is as dystopian as the US and even worse in a lot of ways.

PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml on 09 Apr 21:00 next collapse

I swear the UK is as dystopian as the US and even worse in a lot of ways.

It literally always has been and that fact is why the US even exists.

Zetta@mander.xyz on 09 Apr 22:02 collapse

Good point, didn’t think about it like that haha

Pirata@lemm.ee on 10 Apr 09:37 next collapse

I swear the UK is as dystopian as the US and even worse in a lot of ways.

Why do you think they wanted Brexit? Now they can apply all their demented ideas to their country freely.

I, for one, haven’t set foot there since Brexit officially concluded. Shame that I have friends there but, I hear it’s becoming worse by the day anyways.

AnotherHelldiver@jlai.lu on 10 Apr 20:36 collapse

Ah yes, the good old way of throwing electromagnetic waves at people after putting their cymatic scans inside a shared pool of neutrally and selected pool of dissected sociopaths brains.

I didn’t have it on my Bingo card.

HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works on 09 Apr 14:22 next collapse

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yogthos@lemmy.ml on 09 Apr 14:57 next collapse

Does it identify people like Kid Starver who are murdering the disabled on an industrial scale?

[deleted] on 09 Apr 15:02 next collapse

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surph_ninja@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 15:43 next collapse

So are they going to enforce ICC warrants?

JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca on 09 Apr 16:36 next collapse

They should make three, and they all have to agree, but if only one disagrees then maybe they can ignore it, call it the “minority account” or something like that.

considine@lemmy.ml on 09 Apr 17:18 next collapse

You’re not going to believe this, but Tom Cruise… has identified you as an agent of Xenu.

bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml on 09 Apr 19:28 next collapse

The “less report”. Blamo.

Pirata@lemm.ee on 10 Apr 09:34 collapse

Sounds like a great idea for a film. I have the feeling it would become an instant cult classic.

orphigle@lemmy.ml on 09 Apr 19:40 next collapse

I hope many of their politicians get placed high on the list.

Eiren@lemmygrad.ml on 09 Apr 20:22 next collapse

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Brutticus@lemm.ee on 09 Apr 22:34 collapse

We are begging CEOs to please read the rest of the novel.

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 09 Apr 20:32 next collapse

Healthcare CEOs at the top of the list.

iAvicenna@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 20:49 collapse

if the model is working correctly it indeed must point us towards billionaires

OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml on 09 Apr 20:44 next collapse

NBA Youngboy fans 😯

😂

Jason2357@lemmy.ca on 09 Apr 21:08 next collapse

Data scientist here; there simply are not enough murders to model this, so they will need to use proxies for “likely” murderers (like any sort of violent crime). That means the model will very strongly target people who are over-policed (minorities) and those more likely to actually get caught and charged for things, and thus be in the training data set (poor people). It will also fail spectacularly for this purpose because even a highly accurate model will produce almost 100% false positives -again, because actual murders are so vanishingly rare. The math just doesn’t work.

OldChicoAle@lemmy.world on 09 Apr 21:52 next collapse

I watch enough true crime to know that anyone is capable of murder

tavishwolf@lemm.ee on 09 Apr 23:28 next collapse

I give it two seconds to turn into racism machine

Junkernaught@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 11 Apr 09:16 collapse

And those two seconds are just the boot sequence.

tocano@lemmy.today on 10 Apr 10:30 next collapse

We are living the plot from PsychoPass

Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip on 10 Apr 23:16 collapse

I shit you not, my mom literally just was talking about that anime and joking about it with me last night. I think it’s because we were talking about police anime.

Like if I knew Lemmy didn’t have an algorithm, I’d think this shit was targeted.

somegeek@programming.dev on 10 Apr 17:38 next collapse

Major black mirror vibes

Kobo@sh.itjust.works on 10 Apr 18:53 next collapse

What can go wrong?

Chais@sh.itjust.works on 11 Apr 07:48 collapse

Right? No way this could possibly backfire. Unless, of course, that’s the intended outcome.

Tangentism@lemmy.ml on 11 Apr 11:46 collapse

It’s typical of the neolib Labour party.

They’ve recently reintroduced legislation for digital IDs, just as they did the previous time they were in govt (prior to 2010).

We also have police stepping up unregulated use of facial reignition camera on the streets

They are obsessed with authoritarianism.

emberpunk@lemmy.ml on 10 Apr 19:46 next collapse

Welcome to our over-securitized late stage capitalist hellscape. All so companies can push out these bogus ‘tools’ and eat more of the state budget and profit like the crony capitalists they are. Not the first time. First as a tragedy, second as a farce.

UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml on 11 Apr 04:18 next collapse

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oakward@feddit.org on 11 Apr 08:23 next collapse

Is this turning into minority report in real life?

JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz on 11 Apr 10:05 collapse

Yay, concentration camps. My list of countries to live in is consistently getting smaller.