It kind of is war against encryption. I generally say western media covers Indian government in unfair bad light, but this is exactly the type of bad light coverage I support. Call out the actual stupidity from the government.
Its usually somehow possible to evade such bans, but not every citizen knows about proxies and how to properly use them. So reducing its accessibility certainly hurts India.
Funny thing is that the more you block, the less these bans matter. Every time a big social media gets blocked, a few more unaware people install a VPN (even if a sketchy one, but that’s a completely different story). So pretty much everyone around me uses at least one banned service, which in turn makes all the other bans not matter. The only instance when it does is when they block the previously-working means of ban evasion (like when they blocked Wireguard/Openvpn last year) and people have to find a new one.
Very interesting. Im fortunate in that, Im not in a country that (so far) has not banned a technology I’m using. But definitely, people will always find a way to circumvent a ban.
No need for anything extra proton already comes with alternate routing
CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca
on 02 May 07:19
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When Russia sought to ban PM in their country they used the same excuse as India (fake bomb threats). However, understanding that this can be done via different email services, just underlines that Russia and India are scared of their citizens taking their privacy back and perhaps even organizing.
Sorry to hear about France. It's really worse in France regarding your freedom online. Ironically.
nargis@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 02 May 17:31
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They even tried to restrict VPN companies by passing a bill that forces them to keep logs. Proton was one of the companies that packed up and left. Good VPN companies don’t have servers in India.
fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net
on 03 May 05:32
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We need to make tech that is useful for overthrowing dictatorships
There was a mistake in that comment afaik. It was something where context was missing from the picture which you could have seen on twitter and understand that the CEO is not pro- Trump
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev
on 02 May 14:59
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Proton edited and deleted some of their responses because it made them look even worse. You can find one here: archive.ph/quYyb
Complete delusion believing Trump will “stand up for the little guy”. The GOP is the party that gutted net neutrality after all. They had the Chevron doctrime overturned. The Thiel-Musk funded party standing up for “little tech”? Please.
The CEO tried to spin it off as “missing context” but the responses show he’s either completely delusional, has been comatose for the past two decades or is just pro-Trump. I can’t look inside his head, but his tacit endorsement of the party actively dismantling US democracy is not something that can really “lack context”.
Proton, the company, has donated to liberal parties. The CEO seems to be a bit more of the “libertarian” type, that doesn’t seem to mind everything the GOP did in the past years.
Ah sorry I thought there was an h in there. Most right wingers are the biggest fucking snowflakes, they sure know how to dish it out but can’t take any.
WW3 isn’t going to happen. If you had known anything about the India-Pak conflict, you wouldn’t have said that. Look up Pulwama, 2019 and Kargil War.
The official reason was false bomb threats that happened months ago in some schools in Delhi and other places. Completely unrelated to the conflict in Pahalgam or the strikes in Pakistan and Pakistan Administered Kashmir.
The rest is far too ignorant to respond to. See my comment here and do some research. Either way, idgaf. Please don’t ping me again. I’d much rather talk about it with fellow Indian leftists than with people with no understanding of India or Pakistan.
You’ll be fine. Your governments won’t wage direct war, they’ll sell weapons. The US called it a ‘Cold War’ while numerous wars directly funded by it were massacring people in the ‘third world’. They’ll call it ‘third world tribalism’ or something stupid like that while we fight pointless wars and you’d be shown news about how nice your country is to not go into war, and how utterly uncivilised and stupid we are while they fund armed groups to aggravate people. Why do you care?
Right, thanks for correcting. But I also think that in addition to the government, the current state of the country is influenced by people and people worldview.
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How? You can access it through Tor and other proxies.
Not sure I’m not Indian. But we should see it as a war against encryption
It kind of is war against encryption. I generally say western media covers Indian government in unfair bad light, but this is exactly the type of bad light coverage I support. Call out the actual stupidity from the government.
Its usually somehow possible to evade such bans, but not every citizen knows about proxies and how to properly use them. So reducing its accessibility certainly hurts India.
Funny thing is that the more you block, the less these bans matter. Every time a big social media gets blocked, a few more unaware people install a VPN (even if a sketchy one, but that’s a completely different story). So pretty much everyone around me uses at least one banned service, which in turn makes all the other bans not matter. The only instance when it does is when they block the previously-working means of ban evasion (like when they blocked Wireguard/Openvpn last year) and people have to find a new one.
Very interesting. Im fortunate in that, Im not in a country that (so far) has not banned a technology I’m using. But definitely, people will always find a way to circumvent a ban.
No need for anything extra proton already comes with alternate routing
When Russia sought to ban PM in their country they used the same excuse as India (fake bomb threats). However, understanding that this can be done via different email services, just underlines that Russia and India are scared of their citizens taking their privacy back and perhaps even organizing.
+1
They’re far from being the soles countries scared about citizens safekeeping any semblance of online privacy (hi from France, EU)
Sorry to hear about France. It's really worse in France regarding your freedom online. Ironically.
They even tried to restrict VPN companies by passing a bill that forces them to keep logs. Proton was one of the companies that packed up and left. Good VPN companies don’t have servers in India.
We need to make tech that is useful for overthrowing dictatorships
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India blocking a Nazi service is a win.
Can you explain? I thought Proton was a good service due to their VPN and such.
Proton is also a great service.
The company seems fine but I think they’re referring to the pro-Trump comments the CEO made.
There was a mistake in that comment afaik. It was something where context was missing from the picture which you could have seen on twitter and understand that the CEO is not pro- Trump
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You can have your own opinion but remember that you dont need to be that rude to others
Lol wat?
Are these ceo tears?!
Proton edited and deleted some of their responses because it made them look even worse. You can find one here: archive.ph/quYyb
Complete delusion believing Trump will “stand up for the little guy”. The GOP is the party that gutted net neutrality after all. They had the Chevron doctrime overturned. The Thiel-Musk funded party standing up for “little tech”? Please.
The CEO tried to spin it off as “missing context” but the responses show he’s either completely delusional, has been comatose for the past two decades or is just pro-Trump. I can’t look inside his head, but his tacit endorsement of the party actively dismantling US democracy is not something that can really “lack context”.
Proton, the company, has donated to liberal parties. The CEO seems to be a bit more of the “libertarian” type, that doesn’t seem to mind everything the GOP did in the past years.
Fair
He isnt pro- Trump and neither a Nazi.
Go research again, it was just a comment with removed context
What the heck are you talking about?
How can a service be a Nazi even? Can emails be racist nowadays?
I like it. This means that Proton actually works and they have no way to steal your information.
Right. Couldn’t ask for a better endorsement. Especially since the company has been taking a lot of Ls recently.
India is bad
India is actually awesome Mohdi on the other hand……
true.. but at the same time India is slowly following China & Russia in terms of their human rights, privacy violation and "open" internet (closed).
Yes Mohdi is a typical strong man idiot.
*Modi. But yes … he’s kind of a snowflake. Never had a press conference in 11 years, except when he was forced to outside India.
Ah sorry I thought there was an h in there. Most right wingers are the biggest fucking snowflakes, they sure know how to dish it out but can’t take any.
I bet he uses the nothing to hide nothing to fear line all the time though, just not for himself.
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WW3 isn’t going to happen. If you had known anything about the India-Pak conflict, you wouldn’t have said that. Look up Pulwama, 2019 and Kargil War.
The official reason was false bomb threats that happened months ago in some schools in Delhi and other places. Completely unrelated to the conflict in Pahalgam or the strikes in Pakistan and Pakistan Administered Kashmir. The rest is far too ignorant to respond to. See my comment here and do some research. Either way, idgaf. Please don’t ping me again. I’d much rather talk about it with fellow Indian leftists than with people with no understanding of India or Pakistan.
Hopefully it will not ending up in a WW3 then.
You’ll be fine. Your governments won’t wage direct war, they’ll sell weapons. The US called it a ‘Cold War’ while numerous wars directly funded by it were massacring people in the ‘third world’. They’ll call it ‘third world tribalism’ or something stupid like that while we fight pointless wars and you’d be shown news about how nice your country is to not go into war, and how utterly uncivilised and stupid we are while they fund armed groups to aggravate people. Why do you care?
This is a great ad to use proton!
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Governments*
Right, thanks for correcting. But I also think that in addition to the government, the current state of the country is influenced by people and people worldview.
Just tell Modi that Proton’s CEO is a Trump endorser.