Fedora is an international collaborative effort but Red Hat is the main sponsor and it is US based. We will have to be careful and observe

According to Distrowatch mint and Zorin are from Ireland, opensuse and manjaro are from Germany and more was lazy for more searching

Try out CachyOS

FOSS has no country lines.

Stop worrying about the country of origin. It’s a FOSS project. The vast majority of Pop’s components are developed independently of the company, and by citizens of various nations. Applying the “USA bad, so product bad” rhetoric is a seriously shortsighted approach. Consider instead the amount of influence exerted by the company. Does Ubuntu still seem like the better choice just because the company is headquartered in the UK?

Besides, if you really want to cut American software out of your life, start with Linux and GNU. Torvalds was born in Finland, but he is a naturalized US citizen, and Linux is developed on American infrastructure and includes significant amount of work from American developers.

A lot of people are going to recommend you mint, I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

The mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lxqt is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.

arstechnica.com/…/microsoft-is-putting-privacy-en…

I work for Meta (Facebook).
For example, the word “protest” will now get your account and activity monitored.

This is a big oof.

Things have changed. Before, the worst Facebook could do to its critics was ban them and those that they knew. Now Facebook can have ICE turnover your house without a warrant for a troll post. A private company is now working to suppress a specific kind of conversation that questions the judgement and actions of those in power. It’s a subtle but very dangerous difference in why a bad EULA may not have previously caused concern but the new one is.

it wasnt them under the crosshairs before

He is kinda whistle-blowing about the next level of evil. Up and coming.

See the context mentioned by OP. It was a reply to a post about Recall on Windows.

Its so beautifully stable, without giving you ancient software like Debian. Never had an issue using it n its got a grandma level installation.

“I’m only following orders!”

At some point we need to start welcoming people to the Light, instead of demonizing them for having been in the Dark. It’s pretty difficult for me not to dunk on people as they wake up to the nightmare that they voted for, but a lot them ARE actually otherwise decent folks. Making America Great is going to involve deprogramming a lot of people.

People gotta earn money to survive, I don’t blame the employees for this. And this is not just a case of Meta’s privacy being bad. This is close government involvement with potentially serious impacts and implications across all US based platforms.

“Are we the baddies?!”

Unfortunately, not everyone has a choice in who they work for in end-stage-capitalism. Work is about survival, not ideology. The majority of Americans are not far-right capitalists, but the vast majority of CEOs are, and it’s not really possible to survive long enough to start a small business in most of the US without investment from a far-right capitalist or inheritance (usually also from a far-right capitalist family member).

Hey now, he didn’t say he was working close with Trump, he said he was working closing with Trump.

I’m sure there’s a distinct difference.

Dog, this Linux-Is-Best dipshit almost ruined and ran a local /r/massachusetts subreddit into the ground a couple years back. I remember it because I was there and had a role in getting them removed.

reddit.com/…/mod_of_3_months_in_rmassachusetts_pu…

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS7gw2h5n2o

There’s a bit more to it, someone found out who they were and I forget if they a) didn’t work for FB or b) was just a lowly content control employee or whatever.

If this is the same person, I think they’re legitimately unwell.

US corporate "leadership" has a rapists mentality. Consent is not needed. They will do the crime either way. and daddy sam let's them get away with it.

Yeah OSINT existing is proof that no backdoor is secure, not even mentioning what you can buy from data brokers, something authorities wouldn’t need warrants for.

I think what they are getting at is that Meta does this and they find it likely Microsoft might be doing something similar.

They have an agreement with MS, so they are definitely doing something there.

Yeah, this was a weird way for them to phrase this. You can use Meta stuff on Linux and Fediverse stuff on Windows.

Know what linux doesn’t have? Your screen constantly recorded and sent to corporations who use this data to maximise shareholder value. Oh and the company is in a 3rd world dictatorial shithole with little to no user protection or regulations.

“But i disabled recall” Cool. They still use telemetry. You turned it off? Nice job, have you considered using linux so you don’t have to do the advanced user bullshit(and if you do, it’s way easier and more straightforward?)

It can’t. Its just a kernel. Maybe with the right gnu core utils…

It’s called the Cassandra Complex, named after Cassandra/Kassandra of Troy.

If you think this is new, you’re very naive. They just have better tools to spy on you now.

This is one of those cases where you’d really rather have been wrong.

dismissed as a conspiracy nut.

The government and bad actors use this as a strategy to attack their opponents and control public opinion.

Said a person in denial lol

Yeah, the government and corporations would never spy on us. What a ridiculous idea!

!agedlikemilk

Point out in the image file where this is relevant to the topic in the OP, please.

"Nunclear Brickmanship" interesting way to describe the Russian invasion of Ukraine

wtf does this have to do with facebook, and why are us party politics from months ago relevant for this post?

A) what does this have to do with the post and B) im fairly sure the Israelis are committing as much if not more atrocities than before the election

Ok fed

Are you a not, a troll, or an idiot.

The fediverse isn’t ready for this level of sarcasm. Look at those downvotes, lmao.

you should add a /s

They literally work for the Fediverse branch of meta, sure its an evil corp and zucks intentions aren’t exactly pure (more than likely an effort to lower server costs) but it is something likely to put more eyes onto the fediverse which I definitely think will benefit the fediverse in the long run.

I think the be careful what you do on Facebook is implied. He’s highlighting something that’s less expected, where you may need to be careful what you do on Windows systems.

They mentioned Microsoft updating privacy agreements at the same time as other companies, and OP mentioned that the context was a discussion of a Windows ultra-keylogger type of feature, the implication is they’re in on this shit too

Less criticism and more pity.

Sheryl Sandberg seems like a Grade A asshole to work for - possibly the only woman CEO I’ve ever heard of getting #MeToo’d. Zuckerberg is an absolute baby-brain completely up his own asshole with delusions of grandeur, outright comparing himself to Roman Emperors.

But if you get into the tell-all released by Sarah Wynn-Williams, all you really take away from it is that this company is as corrosive to the body public as it is ravenous for economic expansion. There’s no “keeping close” that’s going to be good for you in the long run. Might as well try to keep a rabid dog on a short leash.

I am very much a left-winger, but I still read right-wing papers and articles, I like to know what the other side is thinking.

I’m not above peaking in on Citations Needed or QAnon Anonymous to see how the other side lives. But the actual right-wing material itself is really ugly stuff, particularly in the modern moment. When it isn’t nakedly xenophobic or Mean Girls callously cruel, its just pumping your eyeballs and ear holes full of the dumbest fucking advertisements imaginable.

Not good to ingest that stuff.

Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer”.

Bruh, it’s not game of thrones. People just need to work.

use massgrave[dot]dev for all the windows software. its very easy

Lenovo recently started shipping laptops with Linux at a discount. But its probably better to buy a laptop from a Linux seller so that you know the hardware compatibility is being maintained.

Yes, at least Lenovo Linux laptops are 140$ cheaper.

Take a look at Framework, or System76 for Linux first hardware.

There are a lot of options if you’re experienced with Linux and know how to get things to work/are willing to do research. However, if you are new, then you should definitely play it safe to avoid frustration.

My current laptop is an Asus PX13, which is an awesome value and probably the most powerful machine you can buy at its size. Unfortunately, Asus does not support Linux on its laptops at all, and any support that exists comes from volunteers. I’m very happy with my current setup, but there are some rough edges that come from the lack of official support.

It's UK based

Debian is a community distro. Ubuntu is downstream of it.

To stop overachieving

To stop insisting upon itself for like, five fucking minutes.

Yep… Snowden, Chelsea* Manning, Assange and an older whistleblower who died recently but I forgot his name… They also forgot what Cambridge Analytica was about. They just need to throw some bread and games at us and we go one living as nothing ever happend.

Would stuff like Fedora be in danger, in this case? I couldn’t find if Red Hat was US based

Tumbleweed or Leap or something else?

I’ve been wondering about a similar change, or possibly to Arch. What I’m still wondering about is security: Fedora has Selinux enabled all over the system, and Opensuse and Arch do not. Anyone know what level of risk this mitigates?

And Facebook as an integrated part of the international surveillance state has been firmly established since Snowden leaked the PRISM program.

Like, there are a lot of reasons to switch to linux and plenty of them are compelling. But its an absolute fantasy to believe you’re somehow immune to surveillance because you’re using the same software as Amazon’s EC2. Does anyone really believe the NSA hasn’t cracked Linux Mint yet?

Or, for that matter, that using a linux desktop is going to insulate you from being spied on via a public facing 3rd party social media forum?

“try to fix your before sending it.” uh huh

I don’t try, I do. Wanna try me?

Except there is… live environments

Distrosea would just like to interject for a moment.

Why not both?

std::vector ulUtil {"GNU", "Alpine", "BusyBox", "Toybox"};
int currentUtil = 0;
do
{
	try
	{
		OS(ulUtil[currentUtil], "Linux").use();
	}
	catch (USER::Bored & err)
	{
		currentUtil++;
		continue;
	}
}
while ((currentUtil < ulUtil.size()) || (findMoreUtil(ulUtil)));

Easy on the hatorade

YEA I’M GONNA CONTINUE TO USE PLATFORMS AND TOOLS THAT EXPLOIT MY PRIVACY AND INFO FOR MONETARY GAIN WITHOUT QUESTION BECAUSE I’M A GOOD LITTLE CONSUMER

sheep pretend to be wolves

What is /e/?

Hi Nazi

that’s dumb

places hands over ears screams “LALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU EVERYTHING IS FINE”

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/44eacf05-ec28-4e12-a94b-89df2a0f9d02.jpeg">

You should try learning words sometime

Use docker

They do have Linux foundation Europe, which has a hq in Brussels. Afaik, all of the Europe OS projects supported by LFE are hosted in Europe also. They also claim to be independent; though I’m not sure if that means from LF entirely. Checking the job boards show roles in California and Germany however; suggesting they are the same entity. (Though I suppose that could just be collaborative?).

The very nature of open source means someone else could just pick it up even if the entirety of LF were wiped out. (There are 5000+ collaborators on the Linux kernel git repo) But the reality is a large portion of those actively working on the kernel, are likely involved in LF in some capacity. Add the fact that LF fund multiple Open source projects, The impact of losing LF would be drastic for the future development of not just Linux, But the FOSS ecosystem as a whole.

This isn’t the only threat to FOSS either; The fact that GitHub is owned by Microsoft is a concern imo.

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