i don' think people engaged in "black market" whatever it means here care. they are trying to make cash money, and there is nothing westoid regimes can do about it beyond make tele shut it down after they had a great run making cash
Also, what I’ve heard is fewer drug dealers buy actual fentanyl from China and most buy precursor chemicals and manufacture the drug closer to where it’s being distributed since it’s both cheaper and less likely to attract scrutiny. Here in Canada we’ve had multiple fentanyl “super labs” getting busted with many more we haven’t yet caught, and most of that fentanyl is for distribution within Canada with very little making it even to the US let alone overseas. Why does China sell precursors to fentanyl? Because they’re also used in benign industrial processes that produce many of the chemicals you use every day in your life and it’s not exactly obvious to the vendor which orders are for making illegal drugs and which orders are for making over the counter drugs or something mundane. And illegal drug production isn’t actually that big in scale compared to the industrial scales that legal chemicals are produced at so the vast majority of their orders are probably legitimate. Might as well go after the Chinese companies selling lab glassware and hot plates too. Are there more things that all countries including China can do to reduce global drug production? Of course there are, there always are. But I haven’t personally seen strong evidence that China is deliberately flooding the West with fentanyl as part of some plot to kill white people or something, at worse I could see the argument being made that they don’t really care if it’s sold overseas and beyond their jurisdiction, but even then I personally think it’s more of a case of it being difficult to tell which shipments are going to drug dealers and which ones are legitimate.
I am talking pre covid period, ia 2010s. The trade has changed into what you described with manufacturing for US marmet taking place on MX with materials still being sourced in China.
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on 24 May 16:01
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Probably after a few more of them get shut down in the same way.
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Telegram is not private. When are people going to learn?
It is very popular though so if you are trying to reach a market....
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i don' think people engaged in "black market" whatever it means here care. they are trying to make cash money, and there is nothing westoid regimes can do about it beyond make tele shut it down after they had a great run making cash
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yeah but if you are based in china, they won't do anything about it and tele gives you direct access to westoids and their spending habits.
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That law did not stop China manufactured fentanyl from flooding US illicit drug markets during 2010s
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You are doing mental gymnastics
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I said Chinese
Are you disputing that Chinese fentanyl was flooding us in 2010s?
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This how we got on the topic of Chinese law... Your claim doesn't pass a basic smell test.
Us pharma behavior is a separate topic that you are using to what about out of the current discussion.
Again, you disputing that Chinese manufacturers of fentanyl were flooded us with it during 2010s?
If you are not disputing it, then where was this strict Chinese law that you mentioned originally?
You’re blaming China for shit that is being done by US companies, wrong and stupid and also arguably racist
Also, what I’ve heard is fewer drug dealers buy actual fentanyl from China and most buy precursor chemicals and manufacture the drug closer to where it’s being distributed since it’s both cheaper and less likely to attract scrutiny. Here in Canada we’ve had multiple fentanyl “super labs” getting busted with many more we haven’t yet caught, and most of that fentanyl is for distribution within Canada with very little making it even to the US let alone overseas. Why does China sell precursors to fentanyl? Because they’re also used in benign industrial processes that produce many of the chemicals you use every day in your life and it’s not exactly obvious to the vendor which orders are for making illegal drugs and which orders are for making over the counter drugs or something mundane. And illegal drug production isn’t actually that big in scale compared to the industrial scales that legal chemicals are produced at so the vast majority of their orders are probably legitimate. Might as well go after the Chinese companies selling lab glassware and hot plates too. Are there more things that all countries including China can do to reduce global drug production? Of course there are, there always are. But I haven’t personally seen strong evidence that China is deliberately flooding the West with fentanyl as part of some plot to kill white people or something, at worse I could see the argument being made that they don’t really care if it’s sold overseas and beyond their jurisdiction, but even then I personally think it’s more of a case of it being difficult to tell which shipments are going to drug dealers and which ones are legitimate.
I am talking pre covid period, ia 2010s. The trade has changed into what you described with manufacturing for US marmet taking place on MX with materials still being sourced in China.
Probably after a few more of them get shut down in the same way.