My local government had funds offered by a federal grant they didn’t apply for. A neighboring county had applied for the federal grant, received a ton of money, and was dishing it out to police across the region.
Between this and local police working with ICE, it feels like a federal government takeover of everything. The sheriff of a neighboring county has his salary paid by ICE/DHS, and that isn’t right. Federalized police departments.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
on 01 Aug 08:05
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Sounds like the police have too much money…
EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 01 Aug 00:03
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This will never be passed because most of the people benefitting from Flock are the ones who vote on the bill.
This; anything else is just surveillance companies jockeying for contracts. Let’s ban the thing that’s bad, government’s spying on their own citizens, please.
If it does get far enough to be introduced and to actual vote. I am guessing there will be a massive push by Flock to flood news outlets and lobbyists to how “successfully bad guys were caught” or otherwise “prevented.” Probably lock-in on any instance(s) involving children being protected/found. With any and all misleading stats downplaying the actual levels of spying on literally everyone not doing anything illegal (or that children are being scanned and added to those growing databases). And the fucked up cases of false positives that drag those people into court, job losses from being accused/arrested, and financial losses from the first two.
A_be_seedy@beehaw.org
on 01 Aug 04:12
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I actually saw some praise on Flock today on Facebook. Youre probably right
Hard counter those efforts with detailed Info on high ranking officials from flock data through FOIA. Educate themasses on what’s is being watched and how all data is combined into a detailed profile
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 10 Aug 02:01
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I do not believe municipalities are obligated to respond to FOIA requests. Those are federal, or at least I though so.
My city lets you do this…maybe its not common. But here i can request all kinds of info from garbage collection right up to all info on Flock installations.
quick_snail@feddit.nl
on 01 Aug 05:55
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YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
on 01 Aug 06:40
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When the worst person you know has a good idea…
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 10 Aug 01:58
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He’s actually had a few other good ideas. He put forth a bill to designate AIPAC as a foreign agency so they couldn’t lobby. This guy is better than all the other Republicans and at least half the dems.
That would be amazing, but I can’t even consider there’s a chance that it’s anything more than performative. Maybe he genuinely wants that to happen, since he does seem to be one of the few US politicians actually against raping kids, but there’s no way flock doesn’t own a lot of the other politicians and have financial ties and data sharing contracts with bigger companies who own the rest of them.
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And remove all of the installed ones…right? Right?
Aren’t most of them funded by local governments anyway?
(And then when the city councils or residents vote to stop it, the cops leave them up anyway?)
This is so such local governments have other funding withdrawn until they get rid of the cameras, presumably
My local government had funds offered by a federal grant they didn’t apply for. A neighboring county had applied for the federal grant, received a ton of money, and was dishing it out to police across the region.
Between this and local police working with ICE, it feels like a federal government takeover of everything. The sheriff of a neighboring county has his salary paid by ICE/DHS, and that isn’t right. Federalized police departments.
Sounds like the police have too much money…
This will never be passed because most of the people benefitting from Flock are the ones who vote on the bill.
You think politicians like that them and their family member’s every move is being tracked?
That puts them at risk
politicians like political donations.
They believe it will only be used against the plebs.
So let’s show them that their greatest enemies have access to this data, and that the only way to keep themselves safe is to not collect it at all
Flock around and find out
What about Motorola and Axon cameras? They all need to go, no exceptions.
Leonardo?
This; anything else is just surveillance companies jockeying for contracts. Let’s ban the thing that’s bad, government’s spying on their own citizens, please.
Yeah, as much as I’d enjoy seeing bad things happen to their smarmy dipshit CEO, this is true.
I suppose a bill like this might help bring the issue to the attention of some number of people, at least.
If it does get far enough to be introduced and to actual vote. I am guessing there will be a massive push by Flock to flood news outlets and lobbyists to how “successfully bad guys were caught” or otherwise “prevented.” Probably lock-in on any instance(s) involving children being protected/found. With any and all misleading stats downplaying the actual levels of spying on literally everyone not doing anything illegal (or that children are being scanned and added to those growing databases). And the fucked up cases of false positives that drag those people into court, job losses from being accused/arrested, and financial losses from the first two.
I actually saw some praise on Flock today on Facebook. Youre probably right
Giving up freedom for security…yadda yadda
Hard counter those efforts with detailed Info on high ranking officials from flock data through FOIA. Educate themasses on what’s is being watched and how all data is combined into a detailed profile
I do not believe municipalities are obligated to respond to FOIA requests. Those are federal, or at least I though so.
My city lets you do this…maybe its not common. But here i can request all kinds of info from garbage collection right up to all info on Flock installations.
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When the worst person you know has a good idea…
He’s actually had a few other good ideas. He put forth a bill to designate AIPAC as a foreign agency so they couldn’t lobby. This guy is better than all the other Republicans and at least half the dems.
At the very least, it should require a warrant to access Flock data.
That would be amazing, but I can’t even consider there’s a chance that it’s anything more than performative. Maybe he genuinely wants that to happen, since he does seem to be one of the few US politicians actually against raping kids, but there’s no way flock doesn’t own a lot of the other politicians and have financial ties and data sharing contracts with bigger companies who own the rest of them.