At least repost the latest version
from RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works to degoogle@lemmy.ml on 29 Mar 2025 18:38
https://sh.itjust.works/post/35236593

I feel like a version of this guide gets reposted weekly, but it’s always out of date.

u/theFallenWalnut over on that other site updates these regularly.

They also now link to !purchasewithpurpose@lemmy.world but I don’t see anything posted there. Maybe a better place to start reposting these

#degoogle

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RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works on 29 Mar 2025 18:56 next collapse

Additional links:

Browser Guide

Email Guide

Search Guide

MECHAGIC@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 30 Mar 2025 06:29 collapse

browser and search guides links don’t work btw

RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works on 30 Mar 2025 06:39 collapse

Both work for me, redirects to Reddit. Check you adblocker?

Edit: Browser direct, Email direct

Note, the redirect links in theory can update when OOP updates, these direct links will eventually be outdated.

MECHAGIC@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 30 Mar 2025 06:54 collapse

i do infact have an adblocker, thanks for the direct links👍

loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works on 29 Mar 2025 19:03 next collapse

For mail, there’s also Disroot, free, based in tbe Netherlands. Not as much free storage as the mainstream providers, but it does let you send incripted mails, and unlike Tuta and Proton, they let you use a client like Thunderbird!

featured@lemmygrad.ml on 30 Mar 2025 15:19 collapse

You can use proton in an email client, but you have to install their bridge service first. This is the only way I use it personally

EngineerGaming@feddit.nl on 02 Apr 2025 08:15 collapse

Yeah, that’s the reason I never fully used their mail. The bridge is a paid-only feature, and they don’t accept Monero for some reason, only Bitcoin.

blacia@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 29 Mar 2025 19:04 next collapse

I personally wouldn’t recommend proton mail https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/

sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 29 Mar 2025 19:42 collapse

I love protonmail. I will keep on using protonmail. No matter how many times people bring this up I will continue using it. I do not care about politics on the other side of the globe, and I’m not jobless enough to censure everything I use because of my political opinions, or the opinions of those who create the products I use. The Lemmy community has an insane tendency to bring up events that may be deemed as a “bad move” in order to completely blacklist it for moral grandstanding. It’s happened to Hyprland, Ladybird, Protonmail, Brave and so many other pieces of software that are good on their own, but irrelevant and misconstrued information is somehow more important than the software itself. I guarantee that if you apply this logic to everything you use, you would be forced to revert to a hunter gatherer because nobody can fully agree with anyone else.

Volkswagen and Ford had people running the company who supported Nazis, Linux has code from maintainers from Russia, almost all gadgets on this planet have cobalt from slave mines in the Congo. But nobody goes around saying that you can’t drive cars, or use Linux, or use a phone, because truthfully you don’t believe in this logic, you are just using it in order to claim moral superiority and get upvotes. My computer will continue running Hyprland, I will continue supporting Ladybird, I will continue using Protonmail and I will continue to push back against these attitudes hellbent on distorting everything that makes FOSS and adjacent services so good.

Just be thankful that I’m not running gmail.

ZebraGoose@sh.itjust.works on 29 Mar 2025 19:49 next collapse

This!

gruhuken@slrpnk.net on 29 Mar 2025 22:11 next collapse

I get what you’re saying but putting “Volkswagen had actual Nazis” and “some Linux coders are from Russia, the largest country in the world” next to each other reads a bit funny lol

blacia@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 29 Mar 2025 22:15 next collapse

No problem if you like proton mail. I just want people to be aware of possible issues to make inform choices when they choose services.

tacofox@lemm.ee on 31 Mar 2025 03:18 collapse

I’m am too exhausted to switch at this point. But if they start taking an active roll in funding the Nazis I may have to reconsider.

Zagorath@aussie.zone on 30 Mar 2025 05:54 collapse

If you don’t care about America’s decline into fascism, why are you even in this community? Why not just continue happily using Google products and other American tech?

But honestly, “I do not care about politics on the other side of the globe, and I’m not jobless enough to censure everything” is such an incredibly shitty entitled attitude to have. You should care. Not caring is not something to proudly trumpet out to the world. It makes you look selfish and wilfully ignorant.

Whether you believe certain specific responses to any given issue are actually productive and worth the trade-off is an entirely separate matter. If you’re gonna continue using Proton because you can’t find anything as good as it to switch to, or because you don’t think the CEO’s comments were bad enough to warrant cancellation, or even that the switching cost would be too high relative to how much impact it would have, I wouldn’t blame you. There are certainly American products that I continue to use because the benefit they provide me outweighs how much impact I think switching could have.

But a blanket statement that you don’t care about the most powerful country in the world losing all semblance of rule of law? Jesus fucking Christ dude. Could you show a little humanity?

xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org on 30 Mar 2025 22:22 next collapse

What a strawman. There are many reasons to not use Google products that have nothing to do with Google being in the USA.

menemen@lemmy.ml on 31 Mar 2025 07:25 collapse

Also, the politics of the current world empire will affect us all, no matter if you live in Mali, Malta or Malaysia.

I live in Germany and we are also currently sliding into authorianizm. The US politics defintly play a role as catalyzator.

[deleted] on 29 Mar 2025 20:11 next collapse

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johncandy1812@lemmy.ca on 30 Mar 2025 10:52 next collapse

IceRaven for android?

QuantumWanderlust@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Mar 2025 14:41 collapse

LibreWolf devs recommend IronFox for Android

johncandy1812@lemmy.ca on 30 Mar 2025 15:40 collapse

I’ll check onto that. Thx for the head’s up!

tacofox@lemm.ee on 31 Mar 2025 03:24 collapse

<img alt="" src="https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/05c2e660-1005-4e1c-a17f-f9a59bc05e33.jpeg"> Oh yeah, that’s the stuff.

Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2025 20:17 next collapse

Yay! Vivaldi made it.

phoenixarise@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2025 21:24 next collapse

Libby is amazing! If you frequent the library, I highly recommend!

[deleted] on 30 Mar 2025 10:18 collapse

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phoenixarise@lemmy.world on 03 Apr 2025 19:18 collapse

Nice! Thanks for sharing!

RedSnt@feddit.dk on 29 Mar 2025 21:55 next collapse

You get a lot of cool shit as a Vivaldi user. I have a free 10 GB email address there, free Mastodon account (not that it cost money to begin with, but they have their own mastodon instance for all their users), and just a couple of days ago they introduced free VPN protection through ProtonVPN. It’s mostly an ad campaign as you can’t select country when connecting to it, but you are tunneled through a vpn that’s closest to you out of the “free pool”. I suppose if blogging is your passion they have free blogging space as well, so yeah, lots of reasons to like Vivaldi.
But! When manifest v3 gets enforced come June and Vivaldi’s adblocker can’t perform to the same standard as uBlock Origin, maybe the Vivaldi browser is a dead end?

Delamcode@lemm.ee on 30 Mar 2025 13:43 collapse

I’m curious how they get enough money to support all of this?

RedSnt@feddit.dk on 30 Mar 2025 15:02 next collapse

This is their business model, at least the one they’ve published.

quokka@aussie.zone on 01 Apr 2025 04:06 collapse

At one point “brave” and “crypto” seemed to appear in the same sentence too often. Put me off Brave. Everything needs funding, but I don’t want in on Ponzis.

tantalizer@lemmy.world on 30 Mar 2025 09:54 next collapse

Kagi is actively funding the Russian government as they use, and pay for, their search provider Yandex. It’s not the only one they are using, but it’s one of them.

Fastmail is Australia based. They have atrocious privacy laws.

quokka@aussie.zone on 01 Apr 2025 04:04 collapse

I would never use anything Australia based. It’s all gone to shit.

muzzle@lemm.ee on 30 Mar 2025 10:51 next collapse

Do you have any suggestions for an alternative to Google photos?

perniczech@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 30 Mar 2025 10:57 next collapse

I’ve heard of Ente, it’s made in the US, but you can self-host it and it’s encrypted

muzzle@lemm.ee on 30 Mar 2025 13:16 collapse

Thank you. To be honest I don’t have time for self hosting, I’d prefer a commercial service. Ideally a service that offers mail, calendar and some kind of remote drive too.

Delamcode@lemm.ee on 30 Mar 2025 13:42 collapse

Then you’ll probably want both the Proton suite (or similar) and Ente

PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world on 30 Mar 2025 12:20 next collapse

Immich!

nfreak@lemmy.ml on 30 Mar 2025 15:28 collapse

I’m just using Nextcloud’s Memories app. I prefer to keep my photo backups in the same place as everything else in my cloud storage anyway, so it works nicely

muzzle@lemm.ee on 30 Mar 2025 18:08 next collapse

Interesting, maybe I should look for a next cloud provider that offers email too

pogmommy@lemmy.ml on 31 Mar 2025 00:35 collapse

Seconded. Its a great experience, my only complains is that photo synchronization with my phone isn’t stellar. Best solution I’ve found thus far is a proprietary app called FolderSync

skitazd@lemm.ee on 31 Mar 2025 01:52 next collapse

Windows, MacOS -> Linux

tacofox@lemm.ee on 31 Mar 2025 03:20 next collapse

Obligatory (though not asked for or even mentioned) Any VPN -> Mullvad (Proton VPN uses Mullvad as a backend)

Once question I have as Firefox seems to be playing with fire is what is a good alternative for Firefox relay that isn’t iCloud?

const_void@lemmy.ml on 31 Mar 2025 05:16 next collapse

Safari is a great browser

Entertain529@lemmy.ml on 02 Apr 2025 01:03 collapse

I was going to try signal until I learned that it requires a phone number. So instead I started trying out SimpleX.

RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works on 02 Apr 2025 06:06 collapse

Signal is where you get invited to the really juicy chats though, maybe you should reconsider.