Degoogle Megathread
from lopar49@lemm.ee to degoogle@lemmy.ml on 21 Apr 22:35
https://lemm.ee/post/62015191

šŸ” Google Search

  1. Leta Ā 
  2. 4get
  3. Searxng
  4. Kagi

šŸ“§ Gmail

  1. ProtonMail Ā 
  2. Tutanota Ā 
  3. Mailbox Ā 

šŸŒ Chrome

  1. Librewolf
  2. Brave Browser
  3. Mullvad Browser Ā 
  4. Vivaldi - partially open source
  5. Floorp

šŸ“± Android Custrom ROMS

  1. GrapheneOS
  2. Calyx 3.Ā /e/OS

ā˜ļø Google Drive

  1. Nextcloud (self hosted)
  2. Filen
  3. Syncthing
  4. Proton Drive

šŸ—ŗļø Google Maps

  1. OSMAnd
  2. Mapy
  3. OrganicĀ Maps

šŸ“ Google Docs / Sheets / Slides

  1. CryptPad
  2. LibreOffice
  3. OnlyOffice
  4. Collabra

šŸ“ŗ YouTube

  1. PeerTube
  2. Piped
  3. Indivious

šŸ“ø GoogleĀ Photos

  1. Ente photos
  2. NextcloudĀ Photos
  3. Immich

šŸŒ Google Translate

  1. DeepL
  2. LibreTranslate

šŸ“… GoogleĀ Calendar

  1. Proton Calendar
  2. NextcloudĀ Calendar (self hosted)
  3. Tuta Calendar

šŸ“± GoogleĀ Play

  1. Fā€‘Droid
  2. AuroraĀ Store

šŸŽ„ GoogleĀ Meet

  1. JitsiĀ Meet
  2. NextcloudĀ Talk
  3. Signal

šŸ” GoogleĀ Authenticator

  1. Ente auth
  2. andOTP
  3. Aegis Authenticator
  4. Bitwarden

note: do not use the same provider for password manager and authenticator

šŸ—’ļø GoogleĀ Keep

  1. Standard Notes
  2. Joplin
  3. Notesnook

šŸ’¬Google Messages

  1. Signal
  2. Theerma
  3. Session

āš™ļøChromeOS

  1. Linux mint
  2. Debian
  3. PopOS

šŸ—ļøGoogle Passwords (baked into chrome)

  1. Bitwarden
  2. KeePass

šŸ“šGoogle books

  1. Libby

šŸŽ¶YouTube Music

  1. Qobuz
  2. Tidal
  3. Deezer

šŸ¤–Gemini

  1. Duck.ai
  2. Le chat (opt out of data sending) - protected by eu privacy laws
  3. Ollama (self hosted)

šŸ”Lens Wip šŸš§

šŸ’³Google pay Wip šŸš§

āœ”ļøGoogle tasks

  1. Tasks.org

šŸ“°Google news

  1. Host your own rss feed reader eg Readrops

šŸ§‘ā€šŸ«Google classroom Wip šŸš§

šŸŒŽGoogle VPN

  1. Mullvad
  2. ProtonVPN - free plan
  3. IVPN

I am open to any suggestions or to add an services I missed! Suggestions are especially welcome on services with less than three current options

#degoogle

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Twanquility@feddit.dk on 21 Apr 22:41 next collapse

Nice. Notesnook is great for sync between pc and phone, but I donā€™t know the others. Thanks!

Gingerlegs@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 22:43 next collapse

Alternative to google search engine, Kagi

VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz on 21 Apr 23:23 collapse

Just a PSA about Kagi: snoo.habedieeh.re/ā€¦/psa_the_kagi_search_engine_diā€¦

DuckDuckGo has suspended its partnership with Yandex in 2022. vox.com/ā€¦/duckduckgo-free-speech-privacy-oops

Steve@communick.news on 21 Apr 23:39 collapse

Why is that a problem exactly?
Is it just because theyā€™re Russian?
Are there some dots Iā€™m not connecting?

VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz on 22 Apr 00:38 next collapse

Yes Steve. Because they are Russian, pay their taxes in Russia and therefore finance the war. They can potentially introduce biases in their search results as well.

Please note that itā€™s just a PSA. Do what you want with this information.

MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml on 22 Apr 00:44 collapse

russia is the no-no country for doing bad things, like starting pointless wars and terrorizing a civilian population. so you canā€™t support them. youā€™ll have to find other alternatives to your services that support bad countries doing bad things.

Zachariah@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 22:48 next collapse

Iā€™ve been looking at www.openphone.com as an alternative to Google Voice. Itā€™s not free (but that may be a bonus), but it does let you port your GV number into their system.

$19/mo.

Itā€™s the closest Iā€™ve found to a replacement. Iā€™d love to hear anyone else who uses something similar.

lopar49@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 22:52 next collapse

Looks good! Iā€™ll add it to the list. Google voice and google pay are by far the hardest to replace

lopar49@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 22:53 next collapse

Can anyone vouch for this? Is it open source? What is itā€™s privacy policy

Zachariah@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 23:28 collapse

www.openphone.com/privacy

Iā€™d love opinions on it, too. Or alternatives.

stinerman@midwest.social on 22 Apr 00:17 next collapse

The only thing I use Google Voice for is being able to reply to text messages on a browser. Is there something I can use for that?

Zachariah@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 00:47 next collapse

I guess I should have said why Iā€™m considering them.

ā€¦openphone.com/introducing-the-openphone-web-app-ā€¦

Looks like theyā€™ve had web based messaging since 2020.





My main use for Google Voice is as a filter for places that need my number. Then itā€™s not ringing my phone (unless I want to).

I did also make sure any alternatives Iā€™m considering do messaging. Even better if itā€™s both in browser and in phone app.

n3m37h@sh.itjust.works on 22 Apr 02:34 collapse

Futo keyboard has voice to text with the ability to download more language models

TurtleTourParty@midwest.social on 22 Apr 03:46 next collapse

If you donā€™t need the business features, I use jmp.chat for $5 a month.

Zachariah@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 03:53 collapse

Can you transfer in your Google Voice number? I donā€™t want to lose it.

You can alsoĀ portĀ your current USA or Canada number in to JMP after signing up with a temporary number from above.

Looks like a good alternative. Thanks for the suggestion.

ncoca@social.coop on 22 Apr 04:02 collapse

@Zachariah @lopar49 I used Openphone a few years ago, and it was terrible. Lots of SMS never came through, didn't work for OTPs (even though they claimed it would), terrible customer service. Despite it being more complex technically, JMP.Chat is much, much better.

Zachariah@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 04:26 collapse

Thanks for the input. Iā€™m saw it looked a bit more complex, but that shouldnā€™t be a problem for me. Iā€™d much prefer something reliable.

Zachariah@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 22:49 next collapse

Threema (not Therma)

lopar49@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 22:51 collapse

Thanks. Itā€™s updated now

Zachariah@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 23:24 collapse

closer

edit: Threema started as an abbreviation: ā€œEEEMA,ā€ for ā€œEnd-to-End Encrypted Messaging Application.ā€ The three ā€œEā€s were a bit unwieldy, so it became ā€œThreema.ā€

chickenf622@sh.itjust.works on 22 Apr 04:38 collapse

Shouldā€™ve gone for a name like 3ema instead in my opinion.

Zachariah@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 04:42 collapse

3nema

jojo@toast.ooo on 21 Apr 22:59 next collapse

Floorp mentioned!

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 21 Apr 23:08 next collapse

Everything you need and more if you have a bit of time and an old laptop or two.

github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted

Some of these you can use through public hosted servers too.

The_sleepy_woke_dialectic@hexbear.net on 21 Apr 23:33 collapse

Wow! These are great. Iā€™m going to have to try out minusgames. Iā€™ve just been using syncthing.

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 21 Apr 23:36 collapse

I run a lot of these on the background of my desktop too and you can flip them off if theyā€™re too intensive and you want to game or something. Self hosting is a little tedious to start but it saves so much money lol.

gressen@lemm.ee on 21 Apr 23:13 next collapse

I like Firefox Sync. What are my options when moving to Librewolf?

VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz on 21 Apr 23:15 next collapse
The_sleepy_woke_dialectic@hexbear.net on 21 Apr 23:23 next collapse

If youā€™re degoogling to reduce googleā€™s influence in the world, not just in your life, you should avoid chromium based browsers entirely. Googleā€™s chromium web rendering engine dominates most web traffic, and is squeezing out all alternatives. This leaves defining web standards in the hands of google pretty much exclusively. Vivaldi and Brave should be avoided for this reason. Brave founder Brendan Eich donates to funds seeking to undo gay marriage protections in the US and other reactionary causes, if that matters to you (it should).

Pherenike@lemmy.ml on 21 Apr 23:23 next collapse

Cryptpad for a Drive/Online Office Suite replacement, itā€™s fantastic

Zachariah@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 00:48 collapse

Just started using this. Itā€™s free (for a small amount of storage) and super private. Like so private that if you forget your password, your data is lost forever.

KiwiTB@lemmy.world on 21 Apr 23:30 next collapse

Vivaldi and brave are just chrome.

figurine8051@lemmy.ca on 22 Apr 00:56 collapse

While Vivaldi offers a unique browsing experience, I believe Brave provides even more features and enhancements compared to both Chrome and standard Firefox. It focuses on privacy and performance, which many users find beneficial.

MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz on 21 Apr 23:37 next collapse

Might also add Collabora, itā€™s libreoffice, but allows online collaboration and has the nicest integration into nextcloud, imo.

lopar49@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 08:40 collapse

It is paid and/or open source

73kk13@discuss.tchncs.de on 22 Apr 12:42 collapse

It is free and open source. github.com/CollaboraOnline/online

Download via F-Droid needs additional repository: www.collaboraoffice.com/downloads/fdroid/repo/?fiā€¦

ā€œNOTE: main server is offline, youā€™ll see the message that youā€™ll add a mirror, thatā€™s expected. To make it skip the main server, open repo details and toggle off firstĀ collaboraonline.comĀ entry.ā€ (forum.f-droid.org/t/known-repositories/721)

lopar49@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 17:06 next collapse

Iā€™ll have to check this out

lopar49@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 18:41 collapse

hiya, when i try and download it from windows, it is paid. When I try and use it online I have to request a demo. What am I doing wrong

73kk13@discuss.tchncs.de on 22 Apr 19:16 collapse

Thatā€™s weird. At least for Linux and Android it was free, last time I checked.

lopar49@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 20:34 collapse

Oh maybe itā€™s different? But when I go to windows I takes me to the Microsoft store and itā€™s 13Ā£

[deleted] on 21 Apr 23:39 next collapse

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Sanctus@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 00:11 next collapse

For those of you who want to dump music streaming entirely and go back to audio files Symphony is an open source music player on Android.

DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works on 22 Apr 19:51 collapse

another option if you want a hybrid is host a jellyfin instance with your music youbcan even install a lrclib plugin and get pretty good lyrics

Sanctus@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 20:24 collapse

Oh? Self hosted music streaming? Thats neat as fucc

stinerman@midwest.social on 22 Apr 00:21 next collapse

I would add

  • Proton Drive
  • Proton Pass

To the Google Drive and Google Passwords areas.

Proton Drive also has the ability to view pictures it has backed up, but because everything is encrypted, they canā€™t really sort them into buckets like you can with Google Photos.

totallyNotARedditor@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 00:46 next collapse

For news/RSS feed Iā€™ve been using Readrops that is available in Fdroid f-droid.org/packages/com.readrops.app

rosco385@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 01:09 collapse

Iā€™ve been using Feeder for RSS and am fairly happy.

I wish there was a way to group articles by topic. At the moment I have to scroll through pages of articles about the Popeā€™s death.

Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 00:50 next collapse

Is there a graphene option for is broke folk? Iā€™d love to move away from android but it only works on phones I canā€™t afford.

HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth on 22 Apr 01:12 next collapse

I guess pixel 9a would be the best choice or a supported older model

d3lta19@lemmy.ca on 22 Apr 03:03 next collapse

Pixel 7a is still supported for 3ish more years and can be had refurbished for like $200. Still a solid phone as well. My daily driver.

DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works on 22 Apr 19:47 collapse

lineage os has a pretty extensive device support or in theroy you could compile base android with none of the spookieness or bloat.

figurine8051@lemmy.ca on 22 Apr 00:53 next collapse

Do alternatives like Invidious and Piped really work? Iā€™m skeptical because it seems like YouTube doesnā€™t want users to have a privacy-focused viewing experience.

I think PeerTube is a great platform, but it lacks enough content to keep me engaged. Quitting YouTube is challenging, especially since Iā€™ve become more aware of online privacy thanks to some privacy-focused YouTubers. However, many of these creators havenā€™t transitioned to platforms like PeerTube.

For example, while some creators like The Hated One and Mental Outlaw have switched to Linux, they still primarily use YouTube.

There are many FOSS services available, but most still rely on big tech. Iā€™m not saying thatā€™s inherently bad, but it does highlight how limited our options can be.

rosco385@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 01:04 collapse

I initially had problems with Piped, but Iā€™ve been using PipePipe for ages and have never had an issue.

iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 01:29 next collapse

Seafile as a Google Drive/Dropbox replacement. You can self host but they also offer paid accounts I think.

lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml on 22 Apr 01:36 next collapse

Some of those suggestions are not exactly degoogling, in the strictest sense. If youā€™re just going to keep using Google services but through a different frontend, you are not freeing yourself from Google.

Thatā€™s not to say piped and invidious and Aurora and so on arenā€™t worth using if you absolutely cannot wean yourself away from Google entirely. Itā€™s a step in the right direction, certainly.

Still, it might be nice to label those suggestions differently in a list like this, for clarity.

Geodad@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 02:00 next collapse

Bitwarden also makes an OTP authenticator app.

myrmidex@slrpnk.net on 22 Apr 13:02 collapse

It has TOTP built-in for paid accounts.

Geodad@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 14:12 collapse

Iā€™m not paying them, and I have their authenticator app. Itā€™s a free download from the app store.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world on 22 Apr 02:59 next collapse

Most KeePass clients have built-in OTP support too. That being said I still prefer Aegis.

Nonbinary_Sahrah@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 22 Apr 11:15 next collapse

As an email provider there is also posteo which is a nice email provider from germany that costs only 1 ā‚¬ a month. And with posteo and mailbox you can use 3rd party email clients which is not something you can do on proton or tuta.

WalnutLum@lemmy.ml on 22 Apr 13:07 next collapse

Would it be better to replace Gemini with a local model run through ollama or something?

lopar49@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 17:06 collapse

Yes, but unless you have god hardware it wonā€™t be a direct replacement ):

TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works on 22 Apr 13:17 next collapse

Someone please help me find a browser that has the Chromium gestures.

I want o be able to pull the URL bar down to go into the tab selection screen and pull the page down to refresh, and all the Firefox based browsers are so different it drives me crazy and I go back to chrome or brave.

lopar49@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 17:05 collapse

Brave I think If not then ungoogled chromium

slowmorella@discuss.tchncs.de on 22 Apr 13:29 next collapse

Arenā€™t Brave and Vivaldi supposed to have blue bullet instead of yellow?

beachsquid@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 21:48 next collapse

Any iOS alternative to Google Tasks?

lopar49@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 21:56 next collapse

Maybe a Joplin? Sorry this is a kinda half arsed andwer Iā€™ll be back with a better one in a mo

lopar49@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 22:03 next collapse

Maybe omni focus?

lopar49@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 22:04 next collapse
lopar49@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 22:08 next collapse
lopar49@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 22:13 next collapse

After further inspection, I would recommend Joplin for most private

beachsquid@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 22:17 collapse

Thanks for your tips :-) I have been trying both Anytype and Joplin, and might use either, but they seem to be primarly note apps not task/todo/reminder/list/priority apps.

Your first links looked interesting, so I will do some research on them.

lopar49@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 08:33 collapse

Would you be willing to pay? Some of the apps arenā€™t currently being developer unfortunately

lopar49@lemm.ee on 22 Apr 22:13 collapse

Maybe anytype

foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml on 23 Apr 09:20 next collapse

Wouldnā€™t really recommend threema and would include SimpleX

lopar49@lemm.ee on 23 Apr 17:19 collapse

Why not?

foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml on 23 Apr 21:59 collapse

Based around a company

EngineerGaming@feddit.nl on 24 Apr 08:10 collapse

To be fair, Simplex is also a for-profit company. However, itā€™s at least decentralized and more open, Iā€™d take it over Threema any day.

lopar49@lemm.ee on 24 Apr 08:46 next collapse

Whatā€™s wrong with threema?

EngineerGaming@feddit.nl on 24 Apr 09:18 collapse

Iā€™m concerned about centralization the most.

lopar49@lemm.ee on 24 Apr 17:08 collapse

Correct me if Iā€™m wrong, but how is signal any less centralised?

EngineerGaming@feddit.nl on 25 Apr 09:44 collapse

Signal isnā€™t, and thatā€™s one of mine (and a lot of other peopleā€™s) main gripes with it.

foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml on 24 Apr 09:08 collapse

Where did you found that SimpleX was for profit?

EngineerGaming@feddit.nl on 24 Apr 09:16 collapse

Their own FAQ: simplex.chat/faq/#funding-and-business-model

foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml on 24 Apr 09:19 collapse

Oh sorry didnā€™t go very deep

Khlo@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 25 Apr 15:46 next collapse

Is Cryptpad really the best docs alternative? Iā€™m looking for something to replace docs, itā€™s one of the last things I need to degoogle.

lopar49@lemm.ee on 25 Apr 17:19 collapse

I tried it and itā€™s pretty good. I donā€™t know about storage limits or anything like that, but it gets the job done.

CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al on 27 Apr 22:26 collapse

Saved! This is an excellent resource thanks so much