No! THIS is a DeGoogled phone! (www.youtube.com)
from InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world to degoogle@lemmy.ml on 21 Mar 2025 20:38
https://lemmy.world/post/27170690

cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/27168042

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solrize@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 2025 21:28 next collapse

Looked at first minute, seems to be about GrapheneOS. Talks about privacy, might be worth watching, doesn’t obviously drag. Around 11 minutes long.

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 21 Mar 2025 23:33 next collapse

Seriously, exactly why did you not suggest f-droid as well?

InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 2025 23:46 next collapse

I am not the author of the video, but perhaps they are saving that for another video.

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 21 Mar 2025 23:59 collapse

Let’s hope so.

InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 2025 00:11 collapse

It is an odd thing to omit. I personally do use fdroid as well.

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 22 Mar 2025 00:17 collapse

I use obtanium, fdroid, and aurora store (for 1 app)

LordKitsuna@lemmy.world on 22 Mar 2025 20:53 next collapse

Probably because it’s kind of a bad experience? I say that as someone that uses it regularly for multiple apps. I’m not a fan, the search alone is basically useless unless you know the exact title of what you’re looking for and even then it’s sometimes not the first result for some reason.

I’m sure that someone will reply to this with some suggestion for some alternative front end for the fdroid store that supposedly fixes that which will just further highlight the issues with it of fragmentation

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 22 Mar 2025 21:08 collapse

Okay, yeah, that is definitely a valid criticism. I have noticed that myself.

piracysails@lemm.ee on 23 Mar 2025 05:10 collapse

If you visit the grapheneos forum, it is generally not a preferable choice, for security reasons.

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 23 Mar 2025 09:18 collapse

Yes, because it makes a few sacrifices in order to allow you to have your own repositories such as certificate pinning, which honestly, I’m okay making those sacrifices because with things like accreacent It’s nothing but Google Play by another name and another company or whatever, because a government can go to them and require them take down an app where that cannot happen on fdroid, because the developer can just throw up an onion service and host their repository on that.

SolidCamel@sopuli.xyz on 22 Mar 2025 18:42 collapse

Graphene os seems to be a popular option. For some Sonys you can install Sailfish. Any other options?

BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml on 23 Mar 2025 03:54 next collapse

I looked at GrapheneOS briefly yesterday and it seems like the only supported hardware is really… Google Pixel phones?

piracysails@lemm.ee on 23 Mar 2025 05:11 next collapse

FYI, grapheneos primary aim is security and not offering a degoogled os. The community generally even prefers installing applications through google play, which someone may choose to install.

ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social on 24 Mar 2025 17:08 collapse

Yes, because they allow you to re-lock the bootloader after flashing a custom ROM. They’re also pretty trivial to unlock the bootloader on in the first place.

BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml on 25 Mar 2025 06:09 next collapse

Yes I’ve had several pixels and oneplus phones over the years and run various roms on them, it just seemed like graphene would be an odd mention/recommendation in this community.

[deleted] on 26 Mar 2025 16:32 collapse

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Lychee@lemmy.ml on 29 Mar 2025 09:22 collapse

Is this really the sole reason? I always thought it was just about supporting the hardware as the pixels are being built differently compared to Samsung, Xiaomi …

Wished this was possible on a Shiftphone, re-locking a bootloader doesn’t seem that hard. (Though mainly only possible with stock ROM)

ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social on 31 Mar 2025 21:11 collapse

Yes, it is. It’s the reason Graphene says themselves. Graphene is all about reducing potential attack vectors, de-googling just happens to be in line with that goal. An unlocked bootloader is a massive security vulnerability.

quokka@aussie.zone on 25 Mar 2025 09:59 collapse

Depending on your appetite for such an experience you could look at PinePhone or FuriPhone or some of the other “linux” ones.