Molly, Signal fork introduced multiple devices support tablets included, all linked to one single account (github.com)
from celmit@lemmy.ca to technology@lemmy.ml on 17 Sep 2023 14:22
https://lemmy.ca/post/5479995

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oneguynick@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 2023 14:58 next collapse

How long till they cut off access?

twistypencil@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 2023 16:07 next collapse

You will likely need to update every two weeks or it will stop working

[deleted] on 17 Sep 2023 16:41 collapse
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ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat on 17 Sep 2023 18:49 collapse

It’s not an assumption. The vanilla Signal app has code in it that disables itself after a certain period without updates. Unless they removed that from this app, then this will do the same thing.

twistypencil@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 2023 18:54 next collapse

Not just updates, you need to periodically poll for messages as well, anyone who runs signal-cli runs into these issues

[deleted] on 17 Sep 2023 19:07 collapse
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Trebach@kbin.social on 17 Sep 2023 17:43 next collapse

The second Signal works out that this exists.

HughJanus@lemmy.ml on 17 Sep 2023 18:02 collapse

Why would they do that?

jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de on 18 Sep 2023 07:10 collapse

Their terms and services forbid third party clients for security reasons, and they have enforced it before. They have a bit of a point in that they can’t ensure that 3rd party applications aren’t spying on you, or more importantly other users you chat with, but that point is mooted when they refuse to document the risk of other apps, like your phone keyboard or “AI” assistant doing the same (which is already happening in some countries).

BobbyBandwidth@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 2023 15:00 next collapse

My name ain’t molly…

eruchitanda@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 2023 15:08 next collapse

Switched to Molly after this update.

How didn’t we have that until now.

AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 2023 18:08 next collapse

How’s it working? I was going to switch over today solely for linked tablet support.

[deleted] on 17 Sep 2023 22:31 collapse
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dauerstaender@feddit.de on 17 Sep 2023 15:27 next collapse

Is it interoperable with signal?

uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca on 17 Sep 2023 15:48 collapse

I was curious, so I read the GitHub page:

Molly connects to the Signal server, so you can chat with your Signal contacts seamlessly. Please remember to review the Signal Terms & Privacy Policy before signing up.

dauerstaender@feddit.de on 17 Sep 2023 16:04 collapse

Thanks!

celmit@lemmy.ca on 17 Sep 2023 16:07 next collapse

also looks like few days ago Louis Rossmann made a substantial donation to Mollyim.

PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks on 17 Sep 2023 16:07 next collapse

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

Louis Rossmann

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

smotherlove@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 2023 18:37 next collapse

Rossman’s embrace of FOSS is such an inspiration. Most people who claim to value freedom aren’t ready to put their money where their mouth is, let alone change their behavior at all.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 2023 20:58 collapse

Cool. I really respect his opinions, so I’ll definitely be giving this a look. I still need to get my wife on board though, since that’s what killed Signal for me last time I tried it (no point when the person I send the most sensitive info to doesn’t use it).

Jomn@jlai.lu on 17 Sep 2023 16:44 next collapse

Can you simply use a signal backup to move to Molly ? And can you go easily back to Signal, if required in the future ?

penquin@lemmy.kde.social on 17 Sep 2023 17:15 next collapse

I want to know this, too. I have signal now, but don’t mind moving over if I simply didn’t lose anything.

merde@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 2023 22:44 collapse

you create a backup on signal and then restore from backup in molly. Nothing’s lost.

thejevans@lemmy.ml on 17 Sep 2023 17:56 collapse

As long as the Molly version is greater than or equal to the Signal version, it will work. Molly updates usually trail behind signal updates, so you’ll have to either time it right or pause updates on you Signal app.

keefshape@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 2023 16:52 next collapse

Does it have sms/mms function?

cujo@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 2023 18:38 next collapse

It does not.

keefshape@lemmy.world on 17 Sep 2023 20:36 collapse

Dang.

SatyrSack@lemmy.one on 17 Sep 2023 20:41 collapse

No, but you still need to give them your phone number in order to sign up.

HughJanus@lemmy.ml on 17 Sep 2023 18:02 next collapse

Does it support Stories?

backpackn@lemmy.ml on 17 Sep 2023 18:17 next collapse

The question everyone’s dying to know

smotherlove@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 2023 18:38 next collapse

Yes

HughJanus@lemmy.ml on 17 Sep 2023 18:39 collapse

Nice, thanks!

trash@lemm.ee on 17 Sep 2023 20:01 collapse

I completely forgot Signal added stories. People use that?

HughJanus@lemmy.ml on 17 Sep 2023 20:11 collapse

Yeah it’s pretty much the only form of private social media there is.

andrzej85@reddthat.com on 17 Sep 2023 18:51 next collapse

the two can co-exist as well… you can keep your Signal install on your primary device and you can install Molly on a tablet, and have it linked to your Signal app as a linked device. this way there’s no loss of data on your primary device

Jomn@jlai.lu on 17 Sep 2023 21:23 collapse

Oh that’s nice to know !

nevial@discuss.tchncs.de on 17 Sep 2023 18:58 next collapse

Just installed the FOSS version, was greeted with a “you can encrypt your database with a passphrase” message, put a long password in both fields, and, well, app crashes. Not really trustworthy imo

nevial@discuss.tchncs.de on 17 Sep 2023 19:02 collapse

Shorter password and even just letters (yikes) doesn’t work either

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 2023 20:50 collapse

So, encryption is just flat out broken then?

nevial@discuss.tchncs.de on 18 Sep 2023 20:09 collapse

In my experience, yes. Can only speak for myself and my device though

nevial@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Sep 2023 22:06 collapse

Okay, everyone, I installed the current update and the app no longer crashes 🥳 but now I don’t know how to import my Signal data from within the same phone (the local export/import doesn’t really work and doesn’t include messages)

bruce965@lemmy.ml on 17 Sep 2023 19:22 next collapse

Apologies, but why would one prefer the fork over the original? Aren’t they both FOSS anyways?

7heo@lemmy.ml on 17 Sep 2023 19:49 collapse

No, the original depends on proprietary blobs. And so does molly, unless you use the FOSS version explicitly.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 17 Sep 2023 20:50 collapse

What do they use proprietary blobs for?

7heo@lemmy.ml on 17 Sep 2023 21:52 collapse

AFAIK, Google Maps, Firebase Cloud Messaging, Authentication and (since v5.24.15) Wallet/Payments. Might be more.

bruce965@lemmy.ml on 18 Sep 2023 00:15 collapse

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks!

MonkderZweite@feddit.ch on 18 Sep 2023 10:43 next collapse

Who tf calls his software “Molly”?

JohnWorks@sh.itjust.works on 18 Sep 2023 21:49 collapse

After switching from an iPad to an Android tablet recently this is exactly what I was looking for