For the first time in 40 years, Windows will ship without built-in word processor - Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
from ijeff@lemdro.id to technology@lemmy.ml on 06 Sep 2023 01:36
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nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Sep 2023 02:30 next collapse

I can’t recall anymore at which point Microsoft started their efforts to make Windows the most shit as possible , intentionally. I’m not saying Wordpad is something that I use , but… why???

[deleted] on 06 Sep 2023 05:01 next collapse
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theshatterstone54@feddit.uk on 06 Sep 2023 08:46 next collapse

Trying to push M$ office even harder, and also barely anyone uses it.

wheels@lemmy.world on 06 Sep 2023 10:08 collapse

And notepad is a lot better than it used to be.

Also, calling Microsoft as M$ is pretty cringe, like, are they really any more money grabbing than Apple, Amazon or any other big tech?

theshatterstone54@feddit.uk on 06 Sep 2023 22:26 collapse

I’d argue M$ has more of a monopoly rhan any other big tech company (except maybe google in search and the mobile OS ecosystem, but at least their mobile OS is FOSS, though they are working on making it worse by removing essential apps from AOSP) and Apple has other issues (A locked down ecosystem, but it doesn’t have a majority market share, luckily, or the world will be an objectively worse place)

wheels@lemmy.world on 07 Sep 2023 14:48 collapse

“M$” was funny on slashdot 20 years ago but it’s a bit tired now.

theshatterstone54@feddit.uk on 07 Sep 2023 18:34 collapse

No longer funny, but very much accurate

selokichtli@lemmy.ml on 06 Sep 2023 20:14 collapse

Their true business now is to rent Microsoft Office. Windows is now just a means to sell people all kinds of services.

TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml on 07 Sep 2023 19:08 collapse

BINGO!

I use MS Office 2007 in a Windows XP virtual machine (VirtualBox) on Linux since many years. Zero complaints. There have been technically meaningless changes since 2007 for the OpenXML extended document suite of formats.

Recently I checked the additional benefits of Office versions above 2007.

  • 2010 gives a Protected View sandboxing feature against macros, and decluttering Ribbon with a Backstage extra menu page to save/share documents.

  • 2013 brought a new landing page, a comment markup tool to highlight edited portions and integrating OneDrive.

  • 2016 brought a quick search like tool for doing many complex tasks easily, somewhat like Excel’s formula finder. It also has a handwriting feature for formulaic and polynomial equations.

  • 2019 brought a feature to improve the OneDrive/365 integration by highlighting users who edited a collaboration document. LaTeX was also integrated for math symbols and equations. It brought Dark Mode as well.

  • 2021 brought mostly further improvements to OneDrive/365 co-authoring and collaboration stuff.

Apart from the LaTeX part, most of it is cosmetic or collaboration features meaningless to me, so I find 2007 pretty great. This also highlights Office was practically feature complete back in 2007, and they are just going to make Office 365 Online their whole business besides Azure Cloud in the future from now on.

mojo@lemm.ee on 06 Sep 2023 02:36 next collapse

WordPad was always complete garbage lol, and the less preinstalled bloat the better.

d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz on 06 Sep 2023 03:02 next collapse

It was handy to have as a simple .doc/.docx/.rtf viewer. In my previous job, some of our teams would create documentation written in .docx (eg as part of a application package), or automatic reports generated as .rtf files, and WordPad enabled us to view these docs from secure, locked down servers, without needing to install any addition software (which would increase the attack surface and add unnecessary maintenence overhead).

With MS now getting rid of WordPad, I’d imagine it’ll be a bit of a hassle - they would now have to switch to a different native file format (which would be a PITA to convert several hundreds existing files), or install a file viewer or some other app, which would add maintenance overhead.

WordPad wasn’t bloat, it was a tiny, executable which didn’t depend on any special dlls or frameworks.

You know what’s actually bloat? Candy Crush, Bing, Ads in File Explorer and all that MS Store / UWP / “Modern UI” crap that MS keeps pushing out.

wholeofthemoon@lemmy.world on 06 Sep 2023 04:38 next collapse

Not really

wuphysics87@lemmy.ml on 06 Sep 2023 05:36 collapse

We are talking about bloat on windows? Really?

mojo@lemm.ee on 06 Sep 2023 05:53 collapse

Yeah, unlike the operating system I use, which I use Linux btw.

quicksand@lemm.ee on 06 Sep 2023 07:37 next collapse

Didn’t have to wait long for you to tell us that. I also use Linux btw

lobut@lemmy.ca on 06 Sep 2023 07:56 next collapse

All these Linux users always feel the need to mention it.

I just started using Mint btw.

tissek@ttrpg.network on 06 Sep 2023 09:03 collapse

I use an Endeavour OS. So technically…

I use Arch BTW

rmuk@feddit.uk on 06 Sep 2023 09:45 collapse

One day I’m gonna fuck you all up by releasing a Linux distro called BTW.

quicksand@lemm.ee on 06 Sep 2023 12:52 collapse

Please do. I haven’t used Linux in years but would boot it off a USB for the lolz

wuphysics87@lemmy.ml on 09 Sep 2023 15:10 collapse

Dots or it didn’t happen

mojo@lemm.ee on 09 Sep 2023 17:37 collapse

I’ve moved on from the unix ricing days, but maybe I’ll reinstall dwm or cwm

belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org on 06 Sep 2023 03:02 next collapse

Do stop using windows if it all possible. Fuck ms.

aeternum@kbin.social on 06 Sep 2023 03:37 next collapse

All the more reason to stop using microshaft.

zipzoopaboop@lemmy.world on 06 Sep 2023 06:09 next collapse

Notepad: am ia joke to you?

captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works on 06 Sep 2023 08:29 next collapse

Yes, actually.

hyorvenn@jlai.lu on 06 Sep 2023 08:47 collapse

That’s not a word processor, that’s a text editor

MedicareForSome@hexbear.net on 06 Sep 2023 10:57 collapse

What about notepad?

twelve12@lemmy.ml on 07 Sep 2023 18:53 collapse

That’s a text editor, not a word processor