Novel attack against virtually all VPN apps neuters their entire purpose
(arstechnica.com)
from floofloof@lemmy.ca to technology@lemmy.ml on 07 May 2024 02:34
https://lemmy.ca/post/20719976
from floofloof@lemmy.ca to technology@lemmy.ml on 07 May 2024 02:34
https://lemmy.ca/post/20719976
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Really interesting. Dhcp optional routes overriding VPN tunnel routing rules.
Once again, Linux with a win!
Partially. The summary isn’t quite in line with the detail:
I disagree with one of their points
Sure, they can’t control the network firewall, but why would you do that when you can change your local firewall? Set an iptables rule to drop all traffic going out the physical interface that isn’t destined for the VPN server. I’m 70% sure some vpn clients do this automatically.
ProtonVPN client on Linux has killswitch. I had to reinstall Ubuntu due to that, since it stopped network connectivity outside of VPN even when I wanted to.
Why doesn’t my internet look like that stock image tunnel of 1 and 0?
Skill issue
Dang option 121.
I told him 120 options was enough, but he just had to keep adding options.
120 options should be enough for anyone.
119 is too few and 121 is too many.
120 options is too many, we should make standard that works for everyone
I’ll quote you in the future like Bill Gates when he said 640K memory is enough.
Any vpn solution that uses a TCP/IP shim in full tunnel mode will ignore option 121 or any other routing options (static routes, etc). Most corporate VPNs like Global Protect/Cisco Any Connect, Appgate, etc will enforce full-tunnel. Any user who is using a VPN for privacy reasons should also use a full tunnel as well especially when connecting to an untrusted networks.
I dunno, tunnel vision is when you can’t see outside the tunnel. The problem is you apparently can.
Edit: Oh, do they mean you can see into the tunnel? That sort of makes more sense.
How did nobody discover this sooner if it is a common network option? This seems like it should have been well known to professionals. Who dropped the ball?
Linux and android unaffected, go figure. Anyway…
Not quite what the article says:
It only works if you have split tunnel setup, which I don’t think anybody does for commercial privacy VPNs
Do you mean the attack only works against people with a split tunnel setup?
Yes
Your vpn should be running on a middlebox and have firewall rules to prevent leaks.
So basically don’t be stupid when on a network you don’t control. I mean I would think that would be common sense by now. Just because you’re on a VPN doesn’t mean that the local network doesn’t have some semblance of capabilities.
And maybe I read it wrong, but perhaps don’t use DHCP on a network you don’t control. Wouldn’t that wholly mitigate this?
I get that this is concerning for people who don’t know any better. But I don’t think it’s as devastating as the title makes it sound.
how would you not use DHCP when connecting to coffee shop wifi?