Apple's iPhone 12 woes spread as Belgium, Netherlands and Germany weigh in (www.theregister.com)
from ZeroCool@feddit.ch to technology@lemmy.ml on 15 Sep 2023 02:35
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eee@lemm.ee on 15 Sep 2023 02:56 next collapse

oh no, they can no longer sell a phone that’s 3 years old, how will they survive?

ZeroCool@feddit.ch on 15 Sep 2023 03:10 next collapse

a phone that’s 3 years old

Correct. This article pertains to the three year old iPhone that was discontinued two days ago. You understand that Apple doesn’t just sell base model iPhones for one year, right? They are sold for two additional refresh cycles. So the iPhone 12 was still being officially sold by Apple until two days ago. Just like how the iPhone 13 will continue being sold until next year when the iPhone 16 comes out.

reddig33@lemmy.world on 15 Sep 2023 03:41 next collapse

The next question is if these countries will require apple to refund or replace each of these devices.

jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de on 15 Sep 2023 06:56 collapse

If this is confirmed they will probably need to recall and replace a significant percentage of all the phones they sold 3 years ago. in the last 3 years.

Edit: made comment more accurate.

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harry315@feddit.de on 15 Sep 2023 06:13 next collapse

Nice. Time to buy a used one for a steal

rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social on 15 Sep 2023 07:10 next collapse

My work phone is one of these I think. The article doesn't really say what, if any implications exist from this radiation. How much electromagnetic radiation could a mobile phone possibly emit?

Slotos@feddit.nl on 15 Sep 2023 09:27 next collapse

They don’t measure emission but body absorption. Body limit is 2 W/kg, limbs limit is 4 W/kg. Apparently only the latter limit is violated.

For meat sacks like us it primarily translates to heat. At frequencies used, this radiation can nudge molecules a bit, which directly translates to heating up. If it was in a hundreds of watts, we’d be approaching microwave ovens territory.

The limits are there because there’s a limit to how much heat a body can efficiently dissipate, and quite a few sources of it. There’s also a concern that localized RF heating can cause cancer, which is not empirically confirmed. I personally care more about a confirmed issue of the nuclear ball in the sky causing one.

www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/…/amp/

PS: Totally forgot, just by existing and occasionally eating, you’re generating roughly 1W per kilogram of body mass, probably a bit more.

[deleted] on 15 Sep 2023 10:19 collapse
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narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee on 15 Sep 2023 18:29 collapse

Apple has already announced that they will issue a software update to address this.

The iPhone 12 probably was compliant at release, then software updates increased the emissions for some reason and a retest has shown that it’s now above the EU legal limit of 4 watts per kilogram (~5.7 watts it seems). The update will presumably bring that down again, possibly reducing modem performance slightly.

This isn’t a real health threat as the legal limit is very conservative. That’s a good thing obviously, but iPhone 12 users don’t have to be worried for their health in this case :)