Alibaba's research arm promises server-class RISC-V processor due this year
(www.theregister.com)
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from schizoidman@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.ml on 21 Mar 2024 00:56
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Alibaba’s research arm promises server-class RISC-V processor due this year
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Is it going to have IME equivalent or will this thing actually be safe?
Is this on purpose?
ARM is a type of RISC
V, it makes sense their ARM division expands to other RISCVarchitectures.EDIT: ARM is a type of RISC, not RISCV
I can see where this came from. ARM and RISC-V are both reduced instruction set computer (RISC) architechtures but are not the same. Arm is a proprietary ISA originally from Acorn. Risc-v is a new ISA developed completely open-source
EDIT: also, not to be killjoy, but for clarity “research arm” means apendage or division and is completely unrelated
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduced_instruction_set_computer
I disagree. The simplest and best reading is they have an ARM CPU for research, and the CPU produced the RISC-V design.
Maybe we’re reading something different, or this is tongue and cheek but "Alibaba’s research arm, the Damo Academy, " sounds like research arm is a synonym for “research division” or “research department”.
Nope, definitely a CPU. It’s the CPU that’s promising the server-class RISC-V processor.
Where in that article do you read that?
The part where it says “arm.”
You’re really not getting the sarcasm here are you…
No, I was hoping it’d be confirmed when I mentiomed it could be tongue in cheek. Doesn’t always come across in a thread where some are unironically making the same point.
I was trying to criticize the original poster by using increasingly ridiculous arguments, when it was obvious they never actually read the article and even misread the post. Something something satire.
I guess it didn’t come off obvious enough. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’m just bad at reading sarcasm sometimes. Probably you were obvious and it went over my head
Don’t you mean ARM is a type of RISC? (RISC = Reduced Instruction Set Computer)
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Yes, I somehow wrote RISC-V instead of RISC 😅. You’re right.
No it’s not. Arm is a RISC architecture. RISC-V also is a RISC architecture.
Arm is explicitly not RISC-V.
Arm in this context doesn’t mean ARM.
With all the liberty to do some research before commenting, I’m rather disappointed to see such factually wrong comment.
I did, I just accidentally wrote RISCV instead of RISC. The acronym ARM actually stands for “Acorn RISC Machine”. TheLowSpecGamer has an interesting animated series about it’s development that is worth checking out.
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That’s an admirable goal, and I applaud the immense effort undertaken to make the OSS dream true.
I don’t think they’re doing this for oss reasons
I don’t think they’re even required to publish the design, they could keep it proprietary
They’re not. They’re doing it because they fear being SOL if America/the West enforces more sanctions on things like ARM chips/designs or Intel, etc.
And yes, IIRC RISC-V is MIT licensed or something close. Basically companies can take it and implement whatever on top and not have to contribute back.
The ISA may be open but I’m pretty sure the microarchitecture will be totally proprietary. Even with a kick ass microarchitecture they may still struggle if they can’t use the latest process nodes to actually manufacture the chips.
Having said that I suspect the main challenge RISCV is going to face is the software ecosystem. That stuff can take a decade to build and requires a degrees of cooperation between all the companies building chips.
RiscV has been used for small specific tasks but running a whole OS on it still seems far fetched with so many libraries being unsupported. (yes it exists already but that is also very limited in functionality)
You can run desktop linux on RISC-V. youtu.be/1apoFXZ9ad8?si=DMF37jRfUqRHRDm9
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