X’s new terms of service insist that tweets are now posts (www.theverge.com)
from meiko60@lemmy.sdf.org to technology@lemmy.ml on 08 Sep 2023 03:18
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autotldr@lemmings.world on 08 Sep 2023 03:20 next collapse

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Users are starting to see pop-ups about new terms that go into effect on September 29th, and one adjustment is two instances of “retweet” (the only use of “tweet” in the current terms) to “repost,” essentially putting the final stamp in the death of the word tweet.

There are a bunch of other branding changes in the new terms, including a nearly wholesale removal of the word “Twitter” in favor of X. I say nearly wholesale because, hilariously, many of the URLs included in the terms still seemingly have to include the word “twitter,” like in this link to a developer-focused website: developer.x.com/en/docs/twitter-for-websites.

There have been some hints that X wants to fully switch over to URLs starring X, but it seems Twitter will hang around in some capacity.

References to Periscope, Twitter’s live streaming app it shut down in 2021, have been removed as well.

Another change moves language about misusing Twitter’s services to a new section, and updates it in a pointed ban against scraping, something that X owner Elon Musk really doesn’t like.

X is also planning to put a new privacy policy into place on September 29th.


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Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 08 Sep 2023 03:30 next collapse

They had such a huge amount of brand recognition and vocabulary associated with their site and Elon just decided to kill that

mo_ztt@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 03:38 next collapse
  1. Something must be done! (true)
  2. This is something! (also true)
  3. Therefore, this must be done!
SheeEttin@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 03:53 next collapse

This is not one of those cases. Nothing needed to be done.

mo_ztt@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 03:55 collapse

Well I meant about Twitter hemorrhaging money and staff on a pretty-much-un-heard-of scale even for the tech industry since Musk took over. That was definitely a problem, and I 100% feel that something definitely needed to be done to right the ship.

sfgifz@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 04:10 collapse

Yes there was a problem, but destroying the identity and appeal of the app wasn’t the solution.

mo_ztt@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 04:16 collapse

Inviting all the Nazis back, and explicitly chasing away the advertisers and all the people who ran the servers and mailed the rent checks, wasn’t the solution either…

THAT IS IF YOU’RE SOME SORT OF PUSSY

Cylusthevirus@kbin.social on 08 Sep 2023 04:43 collapse

I'd call him a pussy but he lacks the warmth and the depth.

Contort3860@links.hackliberty.org on 08 Sep 2023 07:46 next collapse

That is such an amazing insult. I’m stealing that.

cassetti@kbin.social on 08 Sep 2023 17:30 collapse

Dammmn, that's a sick burn. I love it

cheese_greater@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 04:27 collapse

Literally cannot argue with that logic

flipht@kbin.social on 08 Sep 2023 04:44 next collapse

No one will convince me he isn't doing this on purpose to tank the brand.

He and his buddies were mad that they couldn't compete. So he made the offer in a manic moment, and then was forced to go through with it. Now that he's got it, he's going to destroy it, and use the loss to reduce his taxes from all his government contracts.

And he simultaneously gets to platform fascists and silence people calling out the powerful. Wins all around.

For a normal person, this looks like failing. I totally get that. But rich people can derive massive benefits from stuff that would ruin us, and every single thing Musk is doing benefits him in some way.

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 04:51 next collapse

That’s assigning a level of intelligence to Elon that I’m not comfortable with. Plus I’m sure he and his buddies are getting some value out of killing Twitter, but certainly not 44 billion.

flipht@kbin.social on 08 Sep 2023 04:52 next collapse

He does not have to do it himself. He has accountants and lawyers who can take his stupid decisions and turn them into money.

At a certain point the economies of scale of being a billionaire just keep you rich. What I've said is pretty standard tax bullshit that they grow up pulling.

mrbubblesort@kbin.social on 08 Sep 2023 05:04 collapse

just spitballing here, but what happens if accountants band together and tell him to do his own damn taxes? he's fucked then, isn't he? the real revolution of the future won't be fought in the streets, but in the accounting departments /s

flipht@kbin.social on 08 Sep 2023 05:10 collapse

I mean, you're kind of seeing this with Donald Trump's legal issues. He can't get anyone with real clout, so he's actually facing consequences in that arena now.

Delphia@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 05:03 collapse

See, a total fuckwit would at least make 1 or 2 good calls by accident. Nobody rolls a 1 EVERY DAMN TIME.

flipht@kbin.social on 08 Sep 2023 05:12 next collapse

Exactly. A broken clock is right twice a day. If "idiot" rich people can monetize their mistakes, consistently do so, and manage to do it almost as if by using the same playbook as each other...they're not idiots, it is on purpose, and they just want enough plausible deniability that they don't get strung up from a Michelin star restaurant.

SkyezOpen@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 14:32 collapse

I don’t think he’s just throwing out random ideas and they suck, he’s clout chasing with the radical right wing. A long time ago he was the face of tesla and spacex, two very functional companies. Basically everyone thought he war brilliant, or competent at the very least. Then he started a downward spiral of negative publicity but the alt-right loving his bizarre antics, starting with calling the diver that rescued a bunch of kids a pedo all because his idea of a submersible in that tiny cave was patently retarded and he was upset nobody was praising his genius.

Skip ahead and here we are. Letting open racists, antisemites, and CSAM posters do whatever they want because it makes the libs mad. Sabotaging Ukrainian starlink because he gave it to them for the clout but realizes the right hates that we help Ukraine.

sik0fewl@kbin.social on 08 Sep 2023 04:57 next collapse

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

flipht@kbin.social on 08 Sep 2023 05:09 next collapse

That assumes all things are equal.

They rely on you repeating this adage to get away with this shit. It's too consistent. If he were actually stupid, he'd face negative consequences, which is something these folks very rarely have to do.

FaeDrifter@midwest.social on 08 Sep 2023 06:15 next collapse

If you’re rich enough you can just buy your way out of most consequences.

SoylentBlake@lemm.ee on 08 Sep 2023 07:15 collapse

America™; as much freedom (and justice!) as you can afford.

BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml on 10 Sep 2023 05:16 collapse

Land of the Free*

^*some^ ^conditions^ ^apply^

Anders429@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 07:16 collapse

That’s you assuming all things are equal.

otter@lemmy.ca on 08 Sep 2023 09:15 collapse

This phrase doesn’t really work if someone is trying to be malicious in the first place. I usually see it used when someone’s intentions were good but they were just stupid about it. That’s not really the case here

It’s possible that Elon tried to do something malicious, and failed because of stupid choices. It’s also true that the outcome also benefits him.

I will attribute it to malice regardless

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 08 Sep 2023 15:35 collapse

Since Elmo isn’t playing with his own money, the investors and banks who gave him that money are going to be mad if all he did is run the company into the ground.

He got like 13 billion from banks.

Only a small part came from his own Tesla stocks.

Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz on 08 Sep 2023 07:45 next collapse

It’s like Kleenex rebranding to V and then telling everyone to refer to them as tissues.

It’s absolutely batshit. Way to destroy a strong brand, and any brand recognition.

themeatbridge@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 15:26 collapse

I wonder if there’s some new business mumbo jumbo going around, because the company I work for now is exploring our terminology to make it more generic. Last few years it was all Crossing the Chasm and Empowering Citizen Developers. This year it seems clarity of communication is the hot fire.

affiliate@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 16:08 collapse

he’s not even able really kill it either. everyone i know still calls them tweets. even in the articles i read, the authors all say twitter or “X, formerly known as twitter”. it’s such a stupid branding decision that no one is buying into it

FuckyWucky@hexbear.net on 08 Sep 2023 04:08 next collapse

copium

Minarble@aussie.zone on 08 Sep 2023 04:43 next collapse

I thought they were called xcretes

“The internet personality Xcreted daily, his xcretes had been re excreted over 20 000 times”

gregorum@lemm.ee on 08 Sep 2023 05:28 collapse

*rexcreted

PuppyOSAndCoffee@lemmy.ml on 08 Sep 2023 05:02 next collapse

Tweets are stupid as f. I can’t say it is wrong to kill the word tweet (barf) BUT the whole world knows wtf a tweet is.

Elon is going full on gen-x, this is generational battle royale to the max.

gregorum@lemm.ee on 08 Sep 2023 05:29 next collapse

like, totally

420blazeit69@hexbear.net on 08 Sep 2023 17:22 collapse

It is absolutely hilarious that he is waging war against one of the most valuable parts of Twitter – the brand

Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 05:26 next collapse

It’s Twitter. Stop calling it x, it will never be x. Why do people bootlick so hard for daddy musk? As soon as he tells you what to do, you just say thank you, and do what your told by daddy? It’s fucking Twitter. They’re tweets

Cinnamon3431@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 07:12 next collapse

I prefer to call it TwiX ;) But ma dood, in a year no one will be left calling it Twitter, just the way things go.

shapesandstuff@feddit.de on 08 Sep 2023 07:21 collapse

I prefer raider.

HKayn@dormi.zone on 08 Sep 2023 09:26 next collapse

That’s what the company refers to itself as. It’s not bootlicking to call it that.

You can call it however you want, but don’t tell other people what to do.

Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 14:50 collapse

Ugh you sound like such a bootlicking bitch, I just don’t get.

HKayn@dormi.zone on 08 Sep 2023 18:10 collapse

If this was any other company, you’d pay no mind to the name change.

Do what you will; I’ll treat Twitter/X like any other company.

Elderos@lemmings.world on 08 Sep 2023 12:50 next collapse

I mean, losing the Twitter brand recognition is such a bad fucking move that I bet a lot of people are more than happy to indulge him in the name change. He paid billions in for the brand and basically just decided to make a generic website out of it.

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 08 Sep 2023 15:38 next collapse

It isn’t Twitter anymore, but he can’t force us to call it X.

So I agreed to call it Xitter instead. (pronounced as shitter)

Sabata11792@kbin.social on 08 Sep 2023 15:47 collapse

I like seeing "The website formerly known as Twitter“ and almost no mention of the new name you see on articles sometimes.

ArugulaZ@kbin.social on 08 Sep 2023 05:52 next collapse

The Twitter brand is so totally not the problem here.

Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz on 08 Sep 2023 07:19 next collapse

Thanks for keeping me up with the latest on Twitter and Elon Musk. I don’t know how I even managed to live back when I went for months without thinking about either of these two.

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 08 Sep 2023 08:27 collapse

The trumpp of the tech industry.
I was never more involved in US politics.

gramathy@lemmy.ml on 08 Sep 2023 07:30 next collapse

And that’s an x post facto

meyotch@slrpnk.net on 08 Sep 2023 13:07 collapse

Neato!

018118055@sopuli.xyz on 08 Sep 2023 12:16 next collapse

Gretchen, stop trying to make X happen. It’s never going to happen.

Zerush@lemmy.ml on 08 Sep 2023 15:14 next collapse

Sounds better than Xeets

NightAuthor@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 15:27 next collapse

But we all know they’re Xcretions

Zerush@lemmy.ml on 08 Sep 2023 15:32 collapse

…and Xvideos that cause so many disappointments on the internet

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 08 Sep 2023 15:32 collapse

Do we call them peets now?

Vampire@hexbear.net on 08 Sep 2023 15:42 next collapse

I don’t care

mayo_cider@hexbear.net on 08 Sep 2023 16:33 next collapse

I call them skeets like our lord and savior Lil Jon intended

some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org on 08 Sep 2023 17:53 next collapse

There are a few other updates to the terms, too. One says that by using X, “to the extent permitted by law, you also waive the right to participate as a plaintiff or class member in any purported class action, collective action or representative action proceeding.”

[…]

X is also planning to put a new privacy policy into place on September 29th. That new policy says X will expand the volume of data it collects on users, including biometric data and employment history.

Good thing I’m not there, don’t care, am not affected. Lonnie is the best business man evar.

Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org on 08 Sep 2023 18:07 next collapse

A “post” on x will always be known as an Xcrete (verb, I Xcrete on X), and past tense will be an Xcrement. (Noun, I read an Xcrement on X)

smollittlefrog@lemdro.id on 08 Sep 2023 18:59 collapse

why would a noun have a past tense

nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de on 09 Sep 2023 02:34 next collapse

Ok, as a compromise between a generic word and a specific name, I vote we call them Xcrement. (Verb: Xcrete) (Would nicely describe the average quality too)

01189998819991197253@infosec.pub on 10 Sep 2023 03:01 collapse

Aye. I second.

PelicanPersuader@beehaw.org on 09 Sep 2023 03:08 next collapse

Great job, Elon. He took one of the most distinctive things about Twitter, the fact that it had a unique verb for its posting type, and killed it. Way to destroy a brand.

csolisr@communities.azkware.net on 09 Sep 2023 07:46 next collapse

Wondering what will Elmo choose to do: redirect all requests from twitter.com to x.com, or push a 404 on the twitter.com domain just to force all the websites that still embed tweets, er, posts to acknowledge the new URL.

baremetal@lemmy.ml on 09 Sep 2023 23:04 collapse

You done fucked up now