Elon Musk’s Neuralink begins accepting human patients for trials of its brain implant (venturebeat.com)
from throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to technology@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 05:00
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601error@lemmy.ca on 22 Sep 2023 05:25 next collapse

Obligatory “What could possibly go wrong? /s”

HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org on 22 Sep 2023 05:39 next collapse

If someone besides Musk was running things, I might be excited about the potential for progress… as it stands, though, I just can’t trust the guy.

phx@lemmy.ca on 22 Sep 2023 05:51 next collapse

Given what is coming out about how the animal test subjects were treated, you’d be better off letting a random dentist poke at your brain

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 22 Sep 2023 13:26 collapse

Same.

Although I can’t say I would trust one from a FAANG company much more.

Pons_Aelius@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 05:41 next collapse

A good rule of thumb with computers and software is to never touch/buy an alpha/version 1.0 of any system as its best to let someone else sort out the major bugs.

This is the dilemma people trying to create wetware (brain-hardware interface) face. There will be problems and how the hell any experiments to advance this pass an ethics board is beyond me.

floofloof@lemmy.ca on 22 Sep 2023 05:48 collapse

And there’s the question of support:

Their bionic eyes are now obsolete and unsupported

Pons_Aelius@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 06:09 next collapse

Holy shit that is beyond terrible. It reminds me of something William Gibson would write (tech wise) with the absurdity of Douglas Adams or Kurt Vonnegut mixed in.

And I can see this sort of thing happening again and again if this tech keeps developing over the next 50 years.

I would now revise this to never touch any wetware interface for the next 30 years and maybe by then it will be stable.

chfour@lemm.ee on 22 Sep 2023 17:08 collapse

that is just terrifying, imagine just suddenly going back to being completely blind, and then learning noone’s really out there to fix it anymore because the company behind it just went poof one day

nothingcorporate@lemmy.today on 22 Sep 2023 05:44 next collapse

For that thing that killed hundreds of monkeys? Yeah, sounds like a great plan.

birdcat@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 08:49 collapse

“only” 15-17 monkeys, but thousands of other animals, insanely depressing. the more you read about it, the more you will start to actually believe that the death of one particular primate could indeed be beneficial for humanity …

On several occasions over the years, Musk has told employees to imagine they had a bomb strapped to their heads in an effort to get them to move faster, according to three sources who repeatedly heard the comment. On one occasion a few years ago, Musk told employees he would trigger a “market failure” at Neuralink unless they made more progress, a comment perceived by some employees as a threat to shut down operations, according to a former staffer who heard his comment. Five people who’ve worked on Neuralink’s animal experiments told Reuters they had raised concerns internally. They said they had advocated for a more traditional testing approach, in which researchers would test one element at a time in an animal study and draw relevant conclusions before moving on to more animal tests. Instead, these people said, Neuralink launches tests in quick succession before fixing issues in earlier tests or drawing complete conclusions. The result: More animals overall are tested and killed, in part because the approach leads to repeated tests. One former employee who asked management several years ago for more deliberate testing was told by a senior executive it wasn’t possible given Musk’s demands for speed, the employee said. Two people told Reuters they left the company over concerns about animal research.

Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 05:50 next collapse

Ole Musky should step up and prove how safe it is. If he gets one, I’ll definitely get one.

KoboldCoterie@pawb.social on 22 Sep 2023 06:19 next collapse

One implant to rule them all, one implant to find them, One implant to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them

Joker@discuss.tchncs.de on 22 Sep 2023 07:22 collapse

He behaves like he already has one.

ivanafterall@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 09:49 next collapse

Oh shit, what if the purchase of Twitter, change to X, etc...etc...is all due to brain implant side effects... Someone get this conspiracy going!

Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org on 22 Sep 2023 16:48 next collapse

He thinks we’re living in a simulation.

Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 01:31 collapse

So then the thing that killed the monkeys was the smelling their smug farts all day? It all makes sense now…

beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org on 22 Sep 2023 05:53 next collapse

Does it support full auto-think?

JustJack23@slrpnk.net on 22 Sep 2023 07:06 next collapse

Whoever thinks getting one is a good idea already has it enabled.

xilliah@beehaw.org on 22 Sep 2023 13:23 collapse

I already have that and I’m not impressed

nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Sep 2023 06:03 next collapse

People would need to be force to insert this shit to be competitive in the market. This sucks

pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 06:27 collapse

Is anyone up for starting a non religious Amish society?

jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works on 22 Sep 2023 06:09 next collapse

First rule of technology: if the increase in complexity and decrease in reliability outweigh the added tangible value, don’t implement it. This is why it’s usually best to avoid “smart” appliances or, you know, brain implants.

WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.fmhy.net on 22 Sep 2023 06:27 next collapse

This sucks

const_void@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 07:00 next collapse

Lol this guy can’t even make a car that doesn’t kill someone or have a bumper that doesn’t fall off

ivanafterall@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 09:47 next collapse

I shudder to think what the human equivalent of "fully autonomous driving" or a launchpad explosion looks like.

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 22 Sep 2023 13:23 collapse

Or even the human equivalent of a bumper falling off.

cooljacob204@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 16:27 collapse

All cars kill people. Don't Tesla's have a pretty decent safety rating?

const_void@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 16:46 collapse

www.tesladeaths.com

www.tesla-fire.com

cooljacob204@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 16:48 collapse

Okay, instead of posting rage bait can you show me that more people are dying in/from Tesla's then other vehicles per mile driven?

And just to be clear, I don't own a car. Nor do I care for Teslas. But you can't claim it's a dangerous car while not comparing it to the rest of the industry. Cars in general are really fucking unsafe.

AnonTwo@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 07:44 next collapse

Is there no government oversight for "Uhh no you aren't?"

Given the recent animal testing results this seems like assisted suicide

Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org on 22 Sep 2023 16:49 collapse

There was, they were not initially approved.

ulkesh@beehaw.org on 22 Sep 2023 08:14 next collapse

I mean look on the bright side. It’s Musk’s sycophants who would line up to die for something like this.

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Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 22 Sep 2023 09:27 next collapse

I can see how a quadrapoligic or someone with ALS would be excited for this trial. I hope it goes well. It could give someone that is trapped in their body a new way to communicate with their loved ones.

Krapulaolut@sopuli.xyz on 22 Sep 2023 10:50 next collapse

I’ll bet you need a lifetime subscription with that and get a blue verification mark on your forehead.

Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 22 Sep 2023 11:25 collapse

A 30 day lifetime subscription.

willybe@lemmy.ca on 22 Sep 2023 18:31 next collapse

Nice move there AI. I see what you’re doing.

waspentalive@beehaw.org on 22 Sep 2023 21:15 next collapse

Always mount a scratch test subject before testing or reconfiguring.

www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html

anachronist@midwest.social on 23 Sep 2023 04:21 collapse

They’re all dead already.

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