China orders telcos to rip out American chips by 2027 (www.theregister.com)
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autotldr@lemmings.world on 13 Apr 2024 15:25 next collapse

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Years after Uncle Sam ordered US telecommunications providers to rip and replace Huawei kit from their networks, Beijing is telling telcos in China to strip out American-made chips.

On Friday, Chinese officials reportedly ordered its top telecoms players to eliminate foreign semiconductors — primarily those from Intel and AMD — within the next three years.

At issue were concerns that, due to Chinese laws mandating the sharing of info with Beijing, Huawei and ZTE could be forced to place backdoors in its equipment to facilitate intelligence gathering operations.

However, it’s not clear at this point what, if any, support will be provided to its telcos to offset the cost of replacing foreign chips with homegrown silicon.

China’s shift from Western tech has intensified in response to American trade restrictions designed to deny the Middle Kingdom access to leading-edge processor technologies required for AI, as well as the chipmaking equipment necessary to achieve self sufficiency in the near term.

Despite these efforts, Chinese companies, including Huawei and Semiconductor Manufacturing International Co (aka SMIC) have been remarkably successful at building relatively high-end silicon.


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avidamoeba@lemmy.ca on 13 Apr 2024 17:35 next collapse

Long overdue. And I don’t simply mean that from security perspective or as some retaliation to the Huawei ban. Having self-sufficient digital infrastructure should be a top priority for any country that wants to be independent and can afford it. This is also why the Huawei ban was the right move for our (I’m in the West) infrastructure.

PanArab@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 2024 17:47 collapse

I’m glad my country went with Huawei. It is good to have cheap alternatives to Western technology and the West is forcing China to develop in this area, so it is a win for everyone.

Auli@lemmy.ca on 13 Apr 2024 17:35 next collapse

Ah great as the countries silo themselves. I can it see bad things in the future. When everyone was dependent on each other nobody wanted to rock the boat.

PanArab@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 2024 17:44 next collapse

Trump rocked the boat and Biden did nothing except double down.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 14 Apr 2024 19:47 collapse

Weren’t all the backdoors rocking the boat?

refalo@programming.dev on 14 Apr 2024 06:07 next collapse

How do they expect them to replace Intel and AMD processors? And with what?

rhys@mastodon.rhys.wtf on 14 Apr 2024 06:14 collapse

@refalo @yogthos China has a single CPU manufacturer with an x86 licence, Zhaoxin. Their offerings don't rival AMD or Intel upper end, but they've been around for ages and are widely used in China.

refalo@programming.dev on 14 Apr 2024 16:56 collapse

with an x86 license

doesn’t that still mean they are dependent on the West technically?

Broken@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 2024 17:51 collapse

In it’s roots, yes. But the architecture isn’t banned, just the chips. As an analogy, China can make its own internal combustion engines and not buy Ford cars.

refalo@programming.dev on 14 Apr 2024 19:57 collapse

I meant, if they require a license to keep making x86 chips, what’s to stop Intel/the US from revoking it later on?

Miaou@jlai.lu on 14 Apr 2024 21:52 collapse

At this point the licencing is only about Intel getting money, not about China being allowed to produce the chips, me thinks

PanArab@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 2024 17:44 collapse

Whoever can become independent of the other’s chips will win. Who will remove the other first from its supply chain? I have my guesses but it will be interesting to watch it play out.

yogthos@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 2024 18:55 collapse

Given how US efforts for reshoring chip production are going, I think we know who’s going to win this race.