Watch out: Apple timepiece can grab snippets of conversation without both speakers' consent (www.theregister.com)
from ExtremeDullard@piefed.social to privacy@lemmy.ml on 11 Sep 13:18
https://piefed.social/c/privacy@lemmy.ml/p/2372292/watch-out-apple-timepiece-can-grab-snippets-of-conversation-without-both-speakers-conse

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ExtremeDullard@piefed.social on 11 Sep 13:20 next collapse

George Orwell only made two mistakes:

  • He was off by 42 years
  • The surveillance is conducted by the private sector in cahoots with the fascist state for profit rather than directly by the state.
eldavi@lemmy.ml on 11 Sep 16:43 next collapse

The surveillance is conducted by the private sector in cahoots with the fascist state for profit rather than directly by the state.

it had always been this way and orwell would have known that if he didn’t buy into the propaganda.

i’ll be forever funny that COINTELPRO was active during orwell’s time so there’s a strong possibility that it elevated his work because of its pro-propaganda messaging.

GMac@feddit.org on 11 Sep 23:17 next collapse

Third mistake. He forgot to tell us that his 1984 was the sequel to Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World… we could have avoided this if we didnt become mindless consumers.

TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip on 12 Sep 06:48 collapse

Currently we live in a world where neither book became completely true. However, bits and pieces from both did. Nowadays there’s all sorts of enjoyment and distraction easily available, and it seems to partially take the role soma has in BNW.

GMac@feddit.org on 12 Sep 08:54 collapse

Not just soma, the censorship of the different, the unavailability of inconvenient history or information is a direct parallel to the echo chamber bubbles of social media, then constant advertising, that anything new must be more expansive, complex, and require more equipment that the pre-existing alternative.

I think we worried too much about one book and not enough about the other. 1984 seems to be coming now that the BNW prepared the population into distracted acquiesence but where does that then lead? Do we become the eloi after that?

I find the psychosocial parallels fascinating. Sorry if it seems a bit tinfoil…

TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip on 12 Sep 18:49 collapse

There are indeed many eerie similarities. Both books got many themes correct, even though the exact details were wrong. BNW isn’t as popular and well known as 1984, and that’s why the latter still gets all the attention. If people knew BNW, they would be referencing it all the time, since modern life is pretty messed up even by BNW standards.

GMac@feddit.org on 12 Sep 21:39 collapse

You are probably right, though it is depressing to consider the lack of common recognition for Huxley

a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world on 12 Sep 18:07 collapse

The surveillance is conducted by the private sector in cahoots with the fascist state for profit rather than directly by the state.

Yeah, I don’t think that’s a particularly meaningful distinction. It’s actually a viable definition of fascism itself.

“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” — Benito Mussolini

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 11 Sep 13:50 next collapse

So can a phone, or a tiny audio recorder.

RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 11 Sep 14:20 next collapse

*In the US

Tikiporch@lemmy.world on 11 Sep 14:33 next collapse

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mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works on 11 Sep 22:55 collapse

Actually, it is in many states.

Tikiporch@lemmy.world on 12 Sep 00:32 collapse

Well, yeah.

TrickDacy@lemmy.world on 11 Sep 14:44 next collapse

Nononono apple cares about my privacy! They’re so different from Google!! /s

e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de on 11 Sep 16:06 next collapse

Yeah but its OK when its Apple and not Zuckerberg who are doing it. I have no idea why Apple keeps getting away with everything they do. They could release Metas creepy smartglasses tomorrow in an aluminium finish and people would love them and excuse any privacy concerns.

eldavi@lemmy.ml on 11 Sep 16:44 next collapse

that’s how you know it’s a cult

wuphysics87@lemmy.ml on 12 Sep 19:17 collapse

Cult of personality and brand loyalty. They are still riding Steve Jobs’ creation of a “movement”. Bowel or otherwise.

BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com on 11 Sep 17:41 next collapse

Great, first we had to be on the lookout for assholes wearing Rayban glasses, now we have to be wary of anyone wearing an Apple Watch…

FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works on 11 Sep 18:11 next collapse

The audio warning chime would also not help ppl who are deaf.

fox2263@lemmy.world on 12 Sep 08:35 collapse

I doubt their silent conversations will be picked uo

FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works on 12 Sep 17:11 collapse

Well, very many deaf people can talk just fine, and do, for the benefit of hearing ppl who may not know sign language.

FauxLiving@lemmy.world on 11 Sep 19:04 next collapse

Pervert watches to complement the pervert glasses.

ExtremeDullard@piefed.social on 11 Sep 19:20 collapse

Not quite:

The Facebook pervert glasses are purchased by perverts to shoot videos of their victims, and Facebook rides along to perform their privacy invasion.

Apple’s watch performs the same insane level of privacy invasion but all you get in return is a lousy text summary of what was said. Nothing to jack off on or blackmail someone with like with the Facebook spectacles.

FauxLiving@lemmy.world on 11 Sep 19:29 next collapse

Nothing to jack off on

Oh you sweet summer child 😂

I was thinking things like skimming credit card numbers or some creep hearing you give you phone number to the clerk and stalking you.

Video is different, but the ability to record 24/7 has all kinds of criminal possibilities.

ExtremeDullard@piefed.social on 11 Sep 19:38 next collapse

I was thinking things like skimming credit card numbers

You were specifically talking about pervert uses. That’s not perverted.

or some creep hearing you give you phone number to the clerk and stalking you.

That is perverted though. Touche.

Tywele@piefed.social on 12 Sep 09:59 collapse

What’s stopping the creep from doing this with any other available audio recording device right now? You don’t need an Apple Watch to do any of that.

FauxLiving@lemmy.world on 12 Sep 10:04 collapse

You could make the same argument about the glasses, I guess

Tywele@piefed.social on 12 Sep 10:07 collapse

I think the glasses are different because they are not as easily spotted as other video recording devices. Especially when someone disables the recording indicator (that is not very visible in the first place). They can be mistaken for normales glasses more easily.

An audio recording device can record without being seen by the other party.

FauxLiving@lemmy.world on 12 Sep 10:12 collapse

I think the glasses are different because they are not as easily spotted as other video recording devices.

That’s not true at all, we’ve had cheap tiny hidden bodyworn recording devices for a long time.

Instead of glasses how about a cross: blackpointsecurity.com/…/black-cross-necklace-hid…

Or maybe in a pen in your pocket: blackpointsecurity.com/…/mini-spy-full-hd-pen-rec…

degen@midwest.social on 11 Sep 23:34 collapse

Getting the last 15 seconds summarized honestly sounds almost useless and kind of a cringe feature to showcase in the first place

Jarmund@lemmygrad.ml on 11 Sep 20:24 collapse

Wake up babe, another mega corp has implemented another mass surveilance method on the working class.

titanicx@lemmy.zip on 11 Sep 20:38 collapse

I think you underestimate how many other people not in the working class also carry these types of devices and where these devices everywhere.