Omnipresent AI cameras will ensure good behavior, says Larry Ellison
(arstechnica.com)
from grid11@lemy.nl to privacy@lemmy.ml on 16 Sep 2024 20:28
https://lemy.nl/post/1024451
from grid11@lemy.nl to privacy@lemmy.ml on 16 Sep 2024 20:28
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I mean, he’s a billionaire. I guess there’s big money on propping up totalitarian regimes.
Let’s start by putting up cameras in all his houses.
Maybe that will ensure he behaves all the time ☺️
Can’t wait for a hallucinating AI to report me for assault because I hugged someone in public.
Maybe they should require everyone to be happy all the time. I’m just imagining everyone going around with freaky smiles.
You mean like this
eji.org/issues/wrongful-convictions/
Explain to us the infallibility of human perception please. Since so many of you seem to hold it in such high regard.
The root cause of this issue that they identify, is 100% the kind of AI that they’ll build for this situation.
Old mate wants to use it to keep people on their best behaviour. The kind of subjective wording that whatever he doesn’t like, is the exact reason people lie in court.
Power to that thought process through systemising it, legitimising it, is exactly part of the problem.
What’s that American who said lies about the eating cats then justifying it by saying “I’d lie if it got the American public to wake up”. Let me get the quote…
mediaite.com/…/remarkable-confession-jd-vance-abs…
Yep. It’s not infallible, it’s intentional. Intent goes into the creation of systems and implementations. These are the kind of people that want these systems. They’re justified in their own minds.
So to close the loop you linked that article and it’s point was:
Don’t give them reason for more ways to do so. Don’t give them legitimacy. That’s deterministic. It’s intent. It’s not failed if it worked. Your opinion on a system which is failed or fallible is not the same as the Oracle hocho who wants to be God.
They’re not sharing your values, morals, ethics or compassion.
What an unhinged rant. Even 30 seconds after posting I can barely understand my point. I’ll leave it there unedited though.
Not who you responded to, but I appreciate the honesty, lol. Tip of the hat to ya 🤠
These pattern recognition bots just allow the justice system to be stupid faster.
Why do we even care what these tech-bro ass hats think? We already collectively know his vision apply only to “poor people”.
Because they have undue power over our lives.
How about doing something instead of talking? theanarchistlibrary.org/…/crimethinc-recipes-for-…
Until you stop billionaires from happening you won’t solve anything. Remove the source of all of the shit and things will get better
Great way to rid yourself of responsibility. Sadly, nothing ever got achieved by being smart. Doing things is what is necessary.
Therefore yes, billionaires must go, of course. But they wont go until we take action. So my point still stands. Read the book.
I’m not sure how you can spread the responsibility so far down? I’m at fault while I have almost no power? I’m not saying do nothing, I’m saying do the thing that matters, like remove these cunts from the world. That’s our responsibility as a species if we want to continue living
If you would read the book, they explain the point you are trying to make in the first couple of pages.
You have your opinion of how stuff should be done. But that doesnt mean everyone else needs to do it your way. Thats how we got into this mess.
Also very good analogy in the book: if you vote or not is your decision, plain and simple. But voting takes a couple minutes on average. If you want change, you can hang up a poster or print some flyers or take a megaphone, depending on what you‘re comfortable with.
I come from a country where people used to be put in gas chambers because the responsibility didnt reach far enough down and right now, that same country is going that exact route again.
Will Ellison and government officials volunteer to be observed for next 5 years to prove software?
(No.)
Shitty billionaire has a shitty take. Shocker.
ah but you repeat yourself
He proposed a shitty Art Park on Lanai, the island he bought the majority of, and wanted to set up surveillance to stop “vandals”.
Worked on the plumbing for the fountains he wanted to building. Those surveillance measures never came to be, yet…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon
The panopticon is a design of institutional building with an inbuilt system of control, originated by the English philosopher and social theorist Jeremy Bentham in the 18th century. The concept is to allow all prisoners of an institution to be observed by a single corrections officer, without the inmates knowing whether or not they are being watched.
*Although it is physically impossible for the single guard to observe all the inmates’ cells at once, the fact that the inmates cannot know when they are being watched motivates them to act as though they are all being watched at all times. They are effectively compelled to self-regulation. The architecture consists of a rotunda with an inspection house at its centre. From the centre, the manager or staff are able to watch the inmates. Bentham conceived the basic plan as being equally applicable to hospitals, schools, sanatoriums, and asylums. He devoted most of his efforts to developing a design for a panopticon prison, so the term now usually refers to that. *
I suspect Bentham underestimated the nature of misanthropic behavior.
Just gonna tell tweakers those things are full of copper
I saw a sign on each street light on a bike path in my town that said “these street lights use aluminium cabling because the copper was stolen”.
Your plan will work.
AI camera VS. A .45 Magnum
Tune in next decade to find out who will win this epic battle.
Edit: Why does this guy look like Adam Sutler from V for Vendetta? <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/a5d7bae1-503b-4c19-96b6-e82b858cd01e.png"> <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/75b8547e-5530-4b46-9f04-1cdf8f9b536b.png">
Maybe I’m an outlier, but omnipresent AI cameras would ensure bad behavior in my case.
If he really believed that he wouldn’t live in a gated castle.
Fuck Larry Ellison.
Now he’s going for super-villainy against people who’ve never even heard of Oracle.
I’ll just base my conduct on Larry Ellison’s actions instead. As he is championing constant surveillance, he is surely the most virtuous of us all.
When you can get ticketed for speeding while your car is on the back of a tow truck:
the-sun.com/…/photo-towing-van-speeding-ticket-ev…
Or a red light traffic ticket when your car was stolen:
abc7chicago.com/…/11677595/
And the police/courts won’t help you because it’s a problem from the private company running the cameras… I think we can see where some sort of AI backed camera network is headed.
A bandaid to fix this might be to setup an easy way for someone to dispute the charge. For every day that it takes the company to review the dispute, they would need to pay back the accused the same amount that they are charging them (with a minimum of paying them back twice the amount of the fine).
Even then, I’d rather cameras not be used in this way at all.
Billionaire wants a totalitarian state, who’s surprised?
Well how else is he going to fortify his ridiculous amount of wealth from the unwashed masses?
Don’t try to anthropomorphize Larry Ellison.
They will ensure a lot of smashed up AI cameras that’s for sure
While wearing a mask that’ll fool AI on top of a ski mask beneath it.
If it results in innocent people in LA not getting fucking stabbed trying to ride the metro, it’ll be good.
Otherwise this is just another fat government contract waiting for a tech bro to get their hands on.
The LA metro? Like, theres a passenger/commuter train in LA?
Oh for fucks sake can we please stop putting AI everywhere
they put that shit into water bottles… water bottles! Like they have a water bottle that can be synched to your phone and it’s % shown on screen and it changes color at set intervals to remind you to drink. Like for fucks sake dude!
Like person of interest?
Only if I can use AI and cameras to follow police around, map them, and use pattern recognition to make sure they behave as well.
Also I expect there should be more surveillance around powerful people like Larry Ellison, right?
The more powerful, the more important is to ensure good behavior, and the more public / peer-reviewed the AI model and its logs should be to avoid tampering/laundering.
I’m sure they are up for that to prove their innocence!
They consider themselves to be gods and so far better than you and me that any behavior on their part is none of your business (even if it directly affected you and your entire family and community) but if you so much have a 10 minute variation in your sleep they want to know and probably film you when sleeping without any justification and they will tell you to go to hell if you tell them to stop.
Nope. It is only for the peons. Dissidents will have ANY behavior be seen as bad and the fascists will be identified specifically to train the AI to ignore them or automatically rule them out as suspects. Blame their victims and not the perps.
BTW, people like Zuckerberg fucking HATE people like you and me. He considered the people who trusted him with their emails (when he was in university and coming up with the idea of Facebook) to be absolute idiots and even more so for trusting him with that information. He lives his life in a way that insures that we know as little about him as possible. He lives in a compound that is impossible to view via satellite imagery AND he has the actual house he lives in surrounded by dummy buildings specifically so that people cannot spy on his with telescopes. He is obsessed with privacy and probably has never been seen on CCTV in years.
Well yeah my comment was sarcasm.
I am aware, but sometimes my autism still demands I write it anyway. In my experience comments read by people can still inform them even if they have no idea who wrote them and the reason why. I just want to leave the world a better place than I found it.
I wish I could do the same with veganism :) Spreading love and equality.
But I just get an army of haters.
1984 was not a manual
What if we just get the AI cameras to “hallucinate” our good behaviour?
Yeah but what is “good” behaviour?
You want a dystopia? Because that’s how you get a dystopia.
The fascists think they die happy.
They do, one with them at the top
Why don’t you volunteer to be the test case Larry?
we should test edge cases to ensure safety, let’s shove one down this guys’ throat
Omnipresent super-soakers full of paint will ensure they wont.
One of those spray paint cans on a stick they use to paint lines on the ground
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/0a1443d2-c2ed-4630-bb54-5a527698f4c5.jpeg">
Theyre already there
Welcome to China
We need them pointed at every tech CEO constantly.