This is getting laughably ridiculous
from MarcellusDrum@lemmy.ml to privacy@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 08:21
https://lemmy.ml/post/34642117

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vk6flab@lemmy.radio on 14 Aug 08:26 next collapse

😂

Mwa@thelemmy.club on 14 Aug 08:26 next collapse

Is this a joke?

PunnyName@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 08:53 next collapse

This timeline? Yes

SourGumGum@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 08:56 next collapse

The UK? Yes

WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social on 14 Aug 10:21 collapse

UKKK.

halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 09:02 next collapse

You mean the censorship law was woefully ill-conceived and won’t do anything they claim it is supposed to do? Leay it’s definitely a joke, just not the type you’re asking about.

crandlecan@mander.xyz on 14 Aug 09:33 next collapse

Do you see anyone laughing? Well? Do you?? 🧐

đŸ„ș

latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Aug 10:04 collapse

I’m laughing constantly because I’m losing my mind! Haha!

auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Aug 12:04 next collapse

Tried to use gpt5 via the api the other day and they wanted me to scan my passport. đŸ« 

that_leaflet@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 12:52 collapse

Yes. It’s not clear if this was photoshopped or a bug that has been around for years, I believe related to GeForce NOW streaming. The two clients share some code, and GeForce NOW does have an age requirement.

www.nvidia.com/en-us/
/nvidia-app-accessibility/

Armand1@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 08:27 next collapse

Reminder that there is a petition for UK residents, now with 500 000 signatures: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903

artyom@piefed.social on 14 Aug 09:34 collapse

Reminder that they already responded

The Government has no plans to repeal the Online Safety Act, and is working closely with Ofcom to implement the Act as quickly and effectively as possible

Armand1@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 09:48 next collapse

Doesn’t stop us from continuing to push. Since they responded we got 300 000 more signatures.

Whostosay@sh.itjust.works on 14 Aug 11:02 next collapse

Wouldn’t it be sick if y’all just responded on voting day?

Here’s the pitch: Do you want to prevent horrible nonsense shit from happening? Do you like money? Are you okay with people in general? Fucking vote.

NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz on 14 Aug 12:05 next collapse

You do realise that Labour were voted in as the progressive alternative on a bunch of pretty progressive campaign pledges right? The Online Safety Act and treating peaceful protesters as terrorists certainly weren’t what people voted for.

Whostosay@sh.itjust.works on 14 Aug 12:09 next collapse

I do not realize that, I’m not from there nor do I pay attention to their politics. This was more so a call to everyone everywhere to show up at whatever booth it may be and prevent shitty policies from being considered, let alone passed.

That said, I do appreciate the info, and moreso appreciate that you archived it and linked a paywall free version. That was thoughtful.

Armand1@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 13:22 next collapse

Yeah unfortunately one vote every 4 or 5 years is not enough granularity to weigh in on specific issues. Also, politicians lie about what they will do all the time.

Showing that a large amount of people are against an action, whether by petition or protest, is one of the tools we do have.

This particular piece of legislation has been in the works for two administrations of two different parties. We’re kind of sick of both of them so I think many people will likely vote for a 3rd party the next time around. Possibly the more progressive splinter group of our 'left" party.

jjlinux@lemmy.zip on 14 Aug 15:31 next collapse

I hope you’re right. But in my experience, every country ends up voting for 1 of the 2 largest parties because “that other party will not get even 5%” and the whole population ends up disregarding them. And this is by design.

Honestly, I pray that you’re right and the UK people actually tells the main parties to fuck right off.

Whostosay@sh.itjust.works on 03 Sep 16:04 collapse

Very true. I hope you guys do.

HK65@sopuli.xyz on 14 Aug 14:31 collapse

To translate it to American, it’s a similar two party system as yours, and the UK Dems are the ones doing this.

nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Aug 16:08 collapse

Guess you should be on the street protesting and banging down the doors of politicians then.

interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 13:51 collapse

Your voting chose have already been scientifically proven to be meaningless, democracy is fake.

interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 14:00 collapse

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/3c0e1340-aec5-4df7-a40e-525d9d2bf3e7.jpeg">

The game has been rigged.
Voting exists to stop you changing things.
It makes you believed you solved the problem
when you’ve actually accomplished nothing yet

The voting is game is lost before it began
with psychometric micro demographic targetting
they can convert money into votes with simple manipulation
it’s just a matter of which money interest push more
on their preferred option

but neither of the two choices is on your side

None of the choices in democracy are working for you

arrow74@lemmy.zip on 14 Aug 16:36 collapse

So main issue with this comment is the UK system allows for more than 2 choices.

interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 17:27 collapse

Yes there are many choices, very similar degrees of ultimately the same thing. Same thing here in Canada.

Often it’s the business elite party and the “business elite but pretending to care about the people’s interest party” and that second one is also split so the straight up business elite party has a chance to win. Followed by series of do-nothing statistically insignificant, flavour-text parties just for the impression of diversity. It’s all a little circus to give you the idea the population is in control while being completely out of the equation. It only really serves to dissipate their frustration and make them believe they’ve already done everything they could so we don’t get guillotines in the streets.

Make no mistake Fukuyama is right, this IS the end of history, there will not be any democratically elected changes unless the powerful decide change is in their interest and will maintain or increase their power.

Nothing will change until the power is physically taken away from them and history restarts.

artyom@piefed.social on 14 Aug 18:30 next collapse

Point is, this law was not created in service of the public. It's just another surveillance measure. Much like Chat Control, which they've pushed over and over again, despite getting pushback from literally everyone around the world every time. You could have everyone in the EU sign that petition and it wouldn't matter because it's not for you.

kepix@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 15:38 collapse

doesnt matter. they only understand money or force.

sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 10:43 next collapse

Ok but they should still attempt every avenue no?

Guilvareux@feddit.uk on 14 Aug 10:45 collapse

A huge petition that undermines the government’s democratic mandate is never a bad thing, even if they responded.

jeena@piefed.jeena.net on 14 Aug 08:29 next collapse

Makes sense, because with the nvidia graphics card you could generate AI porn.

bacon_pdp@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 08:33 next collapse

You could generate AI porn on a 6502; I don’t see Commodore or Atari pulling this crap.

fubarx@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 08:59 next collapse

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/1b912a97-330a-4746-b525-85ba6d1b27af.gif">

crandlecan@mander.xyz on 14 Aug 09:23 collapse

Why would you?? Commodore 64 unzipping still makes my day đŸ˜€

youtu.be/Zko10cfXB_k

crandlecan@mander.xyz on 14 Aug 09:31 collapse

(and if anyone can find an article or screen grab of the following
 Let me know, I can’t find any references :()

I remember a game / joke where you would rub the Commodore 64 gameport with a wet finger, and the faster you went, the nicer the on-screen lady became
 ;-)

Damage@feddit.it on 14 Aug 09:55 next collapse

a pen can generate porn

dufkm@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 16:26 collapse

Question: how good do you have to be at drawing to have a successful wank to your own art?

FauxLiving@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 19:59 collapse

This is a lovely sheet of paper


Guilvareux@feddit.uk on 14 Aug 10:46 collapse

You can do that with a CPU, it’s just slower.

jeena@piefed.jeena.net on 14 Aug 13:19 collapse

Intel! You know what to do!

SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Aug 08:33 next collapse

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/d27cd26c-7e6d-4554-9185-82b83d5b78fa.webp">

crandlecan@mander.xyz on 14 Aug 09:20 next collapse

You again???! đŸ˜ĄđŸ˜€đŸ‘ŠđŸ–•đŸ–•đŸ–•

artyom@piefed.social on 14 Aug 09:32 collapse

Nuh uh uh!

FauxLiving@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 19:58 collapse

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thyristor@lemmy.pt on 14 Aug 09:30 next collapse

It’s in the name
 can’t access graphic content without ID, can we? /s

On a more serious note, what about AMD graphics cards?

Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de on 14 Aug 09:30 next collapse

No wonder the Scots wanted to secede from this mess.

Zombie@feddit.uk on 14 Aug 11:51 next collapse

And it would’ve worked too, if it weren’t for those meddling kids BBC and MSM propaganda machines!

explodicle@sh.itjust.works on 14 Aug 16:31 collapse

Hear me out

Cascotia

dekomote@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 09:41 next collapse

Never thought living in a second world country would have it’s benefits

Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 10:30 collapse

Second-world means axis-power (Germany, Hungary, Australia, Italy, Finland, Japan, etc). It doesn’t mean something like “half-way between first-world and third-world” like Latin America or the USA.

KillerWhale@orcas.enjoying.yachts on 14 Aug 10:53 next collapse

Australia is an axis power! SalutschĂŒsse.

youngalfred@lemmy.zip on 14 Aug 10:56 next collapse

Australia being a famous axis power

Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 11:10 next collapse

Second world doesn’t mean axis powers, it represented the Soviet Union and Soviet aligned countries.

Its a cold war term. The terms represent the two remaining superpowers after WW2.

1st world = The US and US aligned countries

2nd world = Soviet Union and Soviet aligned countries

3rd world = Non-aligned countries. Which just happened to be mostly under developed countries, which is why the term is now used for that. It didn’t actually mean under developed at first. For example, Switzerland is technically a 3rd world country despite being rich and highly developed.

RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz on 14 Aug 11:18 collapse
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz on 14 Aug 09:51 next collapse

The actual Nvidia driver settings window or all the gamer crap build on top of it that demands you make an account?

Don’t get me wrong, this law is awful but also just deinstall that piece of bloat, good old Nvidia control panel is all you need and works entirely offline without account or did something chance since i left windows?

sheogorath@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 10:37 collapse

They’re gradually moving all the functionalities of Nvidia Control Panel to the Nvidia App. All the new features can only be accessed from the Nvidia App.

Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Aug 12:48 collapse

And you don’t need an account to use the Nvidia App.

Zerush@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 09:55 next collapse

What has the setting of nVidia or visiting the Wikipedia to do with child protection? Certainly old guys which confuse a remote control with an smartphone , don’t should be authorized to make internet laws.

anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net on 14 Aug 10:00 next collapse

Uh, what??

DeuxChevaux@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 10:36 next collapse

Microsoft could pull this off nicely. One nice foggy morning in the UK, and all Windows boxes go BSOD 
 Hmm, I think, they do that anyway, most of the time, don’t they.

fastfomo7@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Aug 10:44 next collapse

is this real? what the f does a gpu driver have to do with the safety act?

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 10:48 next collapse

Do you have a few minutes to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds?

ChairmanMeow@programming.dev on 14 Aug 11:46 next collapse

You’d have the same issue with this on Linux, no? It isn’t OS-specific.

EDIT: I meant in general. Software on Linux is also subject to the UKs temper tantrum laws, same as on Windows. The Nvidia driver is just an example, you can also just download the driver on Windows without needing their companion app.

OrganicMustard@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 11:56 next collapse

In Linux you can use the open source nvidia drivers if you want

kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Aug 12:00 collapse

You don’t want to, though. They’re horrible. There’s an insane amount of effort that would be required to reverse-engineer drivers since Nvidia is at best negligent. AMD and Intel are much better about OSS.

OrganicMustard@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 12:02 next collapse

I know. The best you can do in Linux is not use nvidia.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 12:20 collapse

That is no longer the case. The Nvidia drivers for Linux are pretty decent, these days. They’re still closed source, so if that’s a deal breaker for you, you’ll need to buy an AMD GPU.

kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Aug 13:52 next collapse

I’m not sure if the closed-source drivers have social media garbage on them at the moment, but I’m very sure that I don’t trust Nvidia not to add it.

michaelmrose@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 17:34 collapse

This is quite frankly nonsense

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 06:45 collapse

when was the last time you used windows with nvidia graphics?

OrganicMustard@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 15:10 collapse

The problem is not that they are bad, is that if someone makes a project that depends on the specific drivers then it will work much worse if the drivers are closed source. Wayland was unusable with nvidia drivers until recently.

codenul@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 12:03 next collapse

been plug and play for me using Nvidia + Linux for years now. Just upgraded to a 5070ti, literally was take out old, put in the new.

batmaniam@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 12:29 collapse

I’m not fully a penguin, but getting there. Saw the memes, experienced it first hand in one case and was plug and play in another. It’s luck of the draw.

michaelmrose@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 17:34 next collapse

It’s not luck it’s pretty well defined what works

FauxLiving@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 17:59 collapse

There’s a learning curve, sure.

There was one for Windows too, but most people don’t remember the hundreds of hours of learning that they’ve done to become competent users of Windows.

Just jump in, don’t dual boot. Having no option of giving up and booting Windows makes you motivated to learn how to use Linux.

There’s a community of people who will help (while also sometimes being insufferable assholes) and the skills you learn will be more durable. You’re not going to see Linux 11 come along and mandate that you buy a new computer or anything.

batmaniam@lemmy.world on 16 Aug 14:06 collapse

Oh I’ve loved it so far. And you’re right on the “what you learn is more useful”. Like I’d done a fair amount of hobby/work prototype stuff on rasbian, and eventually went “man, it’d be great if this but more horsepower” and wound up Debian.

Anyway, my point is despite doing a fair amount of coding, and circuit level electronics including troubleshooting comms and all the fun things like race conditions that go into that, I had zero idea how a computer was actually arranged. Troubleshooting Debian helped me with that and is infinitely transferable as opposed to being a tip and trick with windows.

But my original comment was just about Nvidia cards. I’ve had some I just slot in and they work, and some I have to spend an afternoon troubleshooting. Still reinforces your point though, troubleshooting it the first time was how I learned how things actually get displayed.

noodlejetski@piefed.social on 14 Aug 15:51 next collapse

NVK is very slowly getting there, from what I've read. if I remember correctly, it's still gives horrible performance (about 50%-ish of the closed source ones, I think?), but it's still miles better than "you're really better off using your integrated GPU" that noveau offered for ages.

kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Aug 16:10 collapse

Fair enough. I wish them well in the effort. It would be nice if Nvidia threw them a bone, though, what with all the AI money and their GPUs being used in so many Linux supercomputers and servers.

FauxLiving@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 19:55 collapse

There’s a project working on making CUDA work on all (read: AMD) graphics cards. It’s alpha-level, but the progress makes it look promising.

tomshardware.com/
/a-project-to-bring-cuda-to-non


e: Tom’s Hardware links are half the size of the article 😂

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 06:43 collapse

they are at a point where it’s not even really limited by reverse engineering, but that only the nvidia-signed drivers can increase the gpu’s frequencies to anything near performant.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 12:00 next collapse

I’m not aware that the Nvidia drivers for Linux require an app registration. If that were the case, I’d definitely have heard about the uproar.

BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 12:43 next collapse

The official proprietary Nvidia drivers are just a regular Linux package I’m 99% sure, I have it installed on my laptop and it doesn’t involve a gui app at all.

ADTJ@feddit.uk on 14 Aug 14:32 collapse

There is the Nvidia X Server Settings app but it’s pretty barebones

michaelmrose@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 17:33 collapse

Not really it is full featured under X under Wayland some of the features are replaced by your desktops features exclusively

Zetta@mander.xyz on 14 Aug 16:37 next collapse

The key thing is Linux is free and open source, free as In eat shit and fucking die government fucking pigs.

eldavi@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 17:17 collapse

aka: the only kind of freedom that matters. lol

thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Aug 16:52 next collapse

You dont even need an nvidia card to open the nvidia settings on linux

michaelmrose@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 17:32 collapse

No you would not because you don’t need to go to the website to download software to use Nvidia on Linux. Also the Nvidia driver on Linux is literally just a driver and settings package it has no online features

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works on 14 Aug 22:10 collapse

You don’t need Linux, you just need to get the driver from Nvidia’s website.

If they can’t figure this out, they really don’t belong on Linux.

Dallarion@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 11:06 next collapse

Fake information

www.nvidia.com/en-us/
/nvidia-app-accessibility/

Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works on 14 Aug 19:59 collapse

lol <img alt="" src="https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/2eafeeb5-80b8-47ff-a5f5-8d4d3cacdf7f.jpeg">

tazeycrazy@feddit.uk on 14 Aug 11:06 next collapse

Creed: “I don’t get it. Why does a driver manager need a social media feature?” Ryan: “A one stop shop consumer experience. You’re chatting with your friends, you’re talking about the latest music, about the election; all of it is happening in our virtual driver manager” Philus: “Did the police sort the issue?” Ryan: “Yes”

RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz on 14 Aug 11:17 next collapse

The final solution to the zoomer question has finally begun

blenderdumbass@mastodon.online on 14 Aug 11:31 next collapse

@MarcellusDrum This next level #Ageism

jaybone@lemmy.zip on 14 Aug 11:36 next collapse

Sorry. I thought this was about the Nivea app.

lmdnw@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 11:46 next collapse

Imagine if more people actually voted for candidates that shared their policy concerns instead of just complaining into the void. In a democracy, the people get exactly the government they deserve.

colmear@discuss.tchncs.de on 14 Aug 12:14 next collapse

How would under age people vote? Where I am from, you can only vote at 18 (16 for some special elections), so bad luck if you are under 18 and want to be represented

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 12:30 next collapse

In a first-past-the-post system, the election outcome does not really reflect the will of the electorate. Which is why things are so fucked up in places that use these systems.

Bluewing@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 13:09 collapse

The British don’t seem to be doing so well anymore with their parliamentary system. it would appear that there is no governmental system that can’t be manipulated effectively anymore.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 13:12 next collapse

They have an FPTP system. This is exactly what I’m talking about.

Bluewing@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 13:33 next collapse

Any time you have an election, the winning choice is always ‘first past the post’. No matter how many rounds of voting you place in the way.

wurstgulasch3000@feddit.org on 14 Aug 13:36 next collapse

there are other methods, ranked choice for example

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 15:21 collapse

Americans will literally do anything rather than implement proportional representation.

HK65@sopuli.xyz on 14 Aug 14:35 next collapse

I get your point, but what those systems do is they don’t let massively unpopular candidates win by dividing the opposition and they let third parties compete without splitting the vote.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 15:20 collapse

Uh, no, that’s not how this works at all.

kip@piefed.zip on 14 Aug 13:37 collapse

the osa was dreamed up by the tories and enthusiastically implemented by labour. even if proportional rep or whatever alternative to fptp was established before the act came into force, there is little chance that one of these main parties wouldn't have had enough influence to push it through regardless

icelimit@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 13:26 collapse

Time to become swiss

interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 13:44 collapse

the people get exactly the government they deserve.

You are extremely naive about “democracy”
You are taking the fake choices at face value
This is not democracy
Voting once in a while is not democracy, it’s not even politics

Look at the rotating cast of 100 or so loser leading just about every democracy, do you really believe that the current leaders really are these despicable, reprehensible, deceptive and bootlicking politicians are the best people among hundreds of millions of people ?

Of course not, what a crazy idea, and you want to blame the victim about it ? The victim which are US ??? How dare you !

Every country has their own version of first past the post, electoral college and all kinds of rules that ensure that even if they can’t apparently influence politics, the politics have nevertheless NEVER left the hands of the power elites. The people who have always owned everything and will always own everything. You might be feeling some protest and the desire to point to some “rags to riches” story to rebut me, but no you know just as well as I do that these exception are far and few in between and they don’t save the system.

The system designed to perpetuate the concentration of power into fewer and fewer hands, as much as possible, stopping just short of monopoly and kings unless we stopped looking.

Face it, our democracy is rotten bull shit ! It’s NOT OUR FAULT, it was rigged from the start by GOD DAMNED SLAVE OWNERS !!!

So stop repeating the thought terminating platitudes like “the people get exactly the government they deserve”, “it’s the worst system, except for all the others”, “western liberal democracy is the end of history”.

This was and always been fake no matter how much the elites want us to believe it.

Democracy was fake then, it is fake NOW and that is not even taking into account just how incredibly WORSE it is getting in recent years. Not only were the elites content with assassination of dissenters of anything that would champion any kind of change everywhere on Earth, from Martin Luther King to an endless series of political activists but now we have even worse and more deadly than assassinations going on.

Here are just a few of the new technology that ensure your old fake democracy will never EVER amount to anything and you will scientifically never matter to any kind of policy. (even though it was scientifically proven a decade ago that the people’s preference have no effect on congess’ policies)

The new nails in the airtight, steel reinforced concrete coffin of democracy are

1. Behavioral Microtargeting
Data-driven psychological manipulation that hijacks emotions to steer voter behavior without their awareness.

2. Algorithmic Information Control
Algorithms decide what people see and believe, shaping political reality to favor power.

3. Surveillance-Based Targeting
Every movement, message, and purchase is tracked and fed into systems designed to pre-empt resistance.

4. Neuromarketing & Biometric Influence
Ads and messages are engineered to exploit subconscious emotional and physiological responses.

5. Digital ID & Programmable Money
Financial and identity systems can be weaponized to reward obedience and punish dissent instantly.

6. Rigged Electoral Architecture
Voting systems and rules ensure only establishment-friendly candidates ever make it to power.

7. Deplatforming & Soft Censorship
Unapproved voices are quietly erased, throttled, or discredited before they can gain traction.

8. Algorithmic Bureaucracy (AI Governance)
Opaque algorithms control critical life decisions with no transparency or accountability.

9. Weaponized Legalism ("Lawfare")
Laws are selectively enforced to crush dissent while protecting the powerful.

10. Manufactured Hopelessness
tordenflesk@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 12:28 next collapse

Nvcleanstall

Ilandar@lemmy.today on 14 Aug 13:16 next collapse

The internet’s inability to fact check anything before re-sharing it? Yes, I agree.

Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml on 14 Aug 13:29 next collapse

Most zoomers are adults. 96 to 2010 means only the youngest zoomers are minors. In 3 years, every zoomer will be a legal adult.

bigboismith@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 15:53 next collapse

Also most zoomers are adults now, so no

SippyCup@feddit.nl on 14 Aug 17:25 next collapse

First they did it to millennials, now they’re doing it again to Zoomers

jouhija@sopuli.xyz on 14 Aug 17:32 next collapse

“Adults”

_vote@lemmy.ca on 14 Aug 22:18 collapse

They’re out of college and approaching 30

jouhija@sopuli.xyz on 14 Aug 23:18 collapse

Yeah but I’m older so naturally I look at them as adolescents still

MrRazamataz@lemmy.razbot.xyz on 15 Aug 03:43 collapse

alright grandad

jouhija@sopuli.xyz on 15 Aug 11:38 collapse

Sure thing, infant being

network_switch@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 18:24 collapse

I remember in 2019 my workplace was doing large guest lectures from experts teaching how to work with millennials entering the workplace. The teacher early on tried to emphasize that most millennials at that point were late 20s up to almost 40 so everyone’s been working with them for a good amount of time now and the crowd was not interested in that.

Just venting about their teenage children who were gen z but wasn’t a term used much for a couple more years. Just as entertaining were old millennials in denial and certain they were gen x. Not as entertaining were old gen z that thought they were millennials but learned they were actually gen z and it was a moment of shrug shoulder and pretty much being like, “neat.” Like thinking your astrological sign or zodiac animal was one thing your whole life but was off by one.

Similar to like 2021/2022 when I started hearing about how terrible gen z workers out of college were because of growing up on tiktok. Gen z in the workforce at that time grew up on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, and Snapchat. Twitter was genz and millennials tertiary social media. When TikTok came out they had been working for years already or just about to finish undergrad college. 2021/2022 gen z who had the brain rot got that well before TikTok became popular

itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Aug 16:15 next collapse

sorry to break this to you, but zoomers are all adults now

[deleted] on 14 Aug 16:47 next collapse

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ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Aug 17:18 collapse

The youngest millenials are almost 30, dude’s gotta get a new hobby or something, rants about Millenials haven’t been the in thing for like 10 years now.

Trainguyrom@reddthat.com on 14 Aug 17:35 collapse

Relevant XKCD

xkcd.com/973/

zjti8eit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Aug 03:00 collapse

*They’re

MrRazamataz@lemmy.razbot.xyz on 15 Aug 03:42 next collapse

nope, their kids. the MTV kid’s kids

Trainguyrom@reddthat.com on 15 Aug 16:44 collapse

“They’re” is a contraction of “they are”

“Their” is possessive

“There” is a directed place

“The problem with the MTV generation is they are kids” wouldn’t make any sense

OrteilGenou@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 16:53 next collapse

From Alpha to Beta in No Time Flat: Consequences of the Online Safety Act

zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Aug 19:18 next collapse

Nearly positive that the youngest are still minors, but most of them are adults for sure.

Kaerkob@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 21:42 collapse

These delineations are quite silly especially when used in a derogatory way. But if one plays that game, there are still “zoomers” who are minors.

Lfrith@lemmy.ca on 15 Aug 01:21 collapse

Those are probably only on mobile so their knowledge of navigating a PC is probably worse than a boomer and don’t even understand the concept of folders and files.

Kaerkob@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 03:06 next collapse

I personally know several in that age group (minor zoomers) who game on Windows and Linux.

Lfrith@lemmy.ca on 15 Aug 05:16 collapse

There’s always going to be exceptions among those with a more natural tech based interest, but it used to be that everyone was exposed to using a desktop and not something that someone had to individually go out of their way to learn.

This article all day way from back in 2021 showed professors having to rethink how to teach the basics, since now skills that were expected to be known were starting to not be common knowledge.

Gradually, Garland came to the same realization that many of her fellow educators have reached in the past four years: the concept of file folders and directories, essential to previous generations’ understanding of computers, is gibberish to many modern students.

theverge.com/
/students-file-folder-directory-str


So yeah people who are more interested in PC gaming, streaming, and even pirating are more likely to find resources to be self taught. But, the regular people who are increasingly growing up only using phones as their computing device aren’t doing the same until forced to.

zjti8eit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Aug 04:14 collapse

Yep. I feel like a failure of a father. I was talking to my 12 year old about some website and she was all “what app is that?”

It’s not an app, it’s a website.

But there’s no website app.

You use a web browser? Like Firefox?

What’s a a web bowser? Is Firefox a new furry?

Lfrith@lemmy.ca on 15 Aug 05:20 collapse

I’d probably be the same if it wasn’t for video games. Wanting to build my own PC was what educated me the most about computers and how they work and learning basic desktop usage. Especially getting into Skyrim and Minecraft mods. There whether someone wants to or not they will have to know basic folder structure and where things are saved and located.

But, without a self driven reason to dive further beyond mobile devices it doesn’t seem like schools are teaching people computer basics anymore. So not something learned by everyone by just every day life.

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OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 17:49 collapse

How would Gopher side step this?

zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Aug 19:17 next collapse

My best guess is through complete obscurity :)

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michaelmrose@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 17:29 next collapse

You can on Linux just saying

FauxLiving@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 17:51 collapse

It’s like people are just now noticing that they have zero ability to control their own digital lives because they traded it all away in order to not have to take the time to learn how to do things for themselves.

jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 18:34 next collapse

We all need to make what we know freely available in a friendly manner to make the path to Linux easier and more fun.

FauxLiving@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 18:56 next collapse

Up until now, we’ve been hiding it in wikis and books, where we know nobody will look. 😂

There are some user friendly distributions, but even they will be uncomfortable and frustrating to use when you’re new.

Having to relearn how to use a computer is daunting for people. It’s a lot easier to just touch an app and have the instant gratification.

The point of all of these apps and services is to get people dependent on them so that they’re unwilling to leave because the alternative requires effort. I don’t know that Linux, as a whole, can ever be that user friendly. But, eventually some people will be tired of being squeezed for cash and spyed on just to save a few weeks of reading and learning.

mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Aug 19:13 next collapse

in a friendly manner

Emphasis on “friendly” because there’s a big “RTFM” issue on some Linux communities. Sure, it can be annoying getting the same questions constantly. But the “RTFM” response is condescending and artificially inflates the barrier to entry. People shouldn’t be expected to read, understand, and remember 200 pages of dense documentation just to learn how to update their graphics drivers. If someone is learning how to drive, telling them “read the owner’s manual for your car” is just toxic. Sure the owners manual will have lots of useful info, but that doesn’t actually help the person who is trying to get started.

At the very least, point them in the right direction. You can say “RTFM” while still being helpful. Oh, you want to know how to do something specific via CLI? Cool, here’s a link to that specific section, which explains what the command you need does. As it currently stands, a lot of the most crucial info for newcomers is buried in obscure wiki articles and books. And longtime Linux users treat the struggle like a rite of passage. But not everyone is interested in that; They just want to ditch Windows because they can’t install Win11, and they’re looking for friendly alternatives.

FauxLiving@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 19:47 next collapse

I do agree with a lot of what you’re saying.

Linux has historically been a space for tech people and so the default assumption is that the user is competent (jokes aside
) and capable of understanding technical writing.

So, naturally, if a person asks a question which is answered in the documentation then they’re reminded that the answers exist already in the expected places and asking other people to do your own research for you rude.

The Linux demographic is shifting and we need to adjust, but cultural norms change slowly.

and they’re looking for friendly alternatives.

I think that this is part of the trap that keeps people stuck in the spyware/enshittification market.

Technology is complicated.

Try to imagine, from a technical point of view, how complex it is to run a service like Netflix. There are a lot of highly trained people designing, managing and maintaining the various systems to run the service that lets a user touch a picture on their phone screen to see a movie.

The user has an easy, friendly experience but that’s only because Netflix handles all of the complexity. This seems like a good deal initially. I mean, $10 $12 $15 $19.99/mo is a good price to pay to not have to know how to do all of that.

But, now the user is completely dependent on service providers to stand between them and the complexity of technology so they never have a chance to learn because they never see how anything works.

This Faustian bargain is what lets these companies continue to spy on people and jack up the price of services while offering less service. Where are the users going to go?

Linux and the open source community offer a different bargain. You have to learn how to do things for yourself, but now you have actual meaningful choices about how you use technology and a community of people who are trying to solve the same problems as you.

Sure, it isn’t as easy. But easy isn’t free, and I’m tired of paying what they want to charge.

Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works on 14 Aug 19:57 collapse

My literal job consists of helping other (generally much less technically savvy) representatives provide support to our end users, and it being their literal job to provide “tech” help to users is still not enough of an incentive for 80+% of them to learn anything beyond basic computing. Sometimes it’s like pulling teeth just to get a fucking click path or screenshot of what’s actually happening.

Now expand that out to now I am not getting paid to help people and those asking for help are often VERY entitled that they deserve to have their hand held through the entire process. It’s frustrating and often thankless.

There’s an older manual for how to ask a “hacker” for technical help that I think is so spot on for setting proper expectations: catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

dropped_packet@lemmy.zip on 14 Aug 19:15 collapse

I have been offering 1:1 chats on signal to anyone who wants help switching to Linux.

Asking questions in forums and social media is intimidating. I despise the snobbery that often represents this community. I just want to help people regain some control over their digital lives.

locahosr443@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 21:42 next collapse

Man you are doing <insert deity>'s work there

[deleted] on 15 Aug 01:20 collapse

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dropped_packet@lemmy.zip on 15 Aug 03:09 next collapse

Sent you a DM, Interested to hear more about these problems!

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 05:50 collapse

Or raising the polling rate of USB mice above 10 Hz (as in ten - that’s not a typo).

I don’t know the answer, but I’m interested, what do you use that for?

Fortunately, copying or moving more than 1 GB to or from USB sticks without crashing the entire machine (no matter if NTFS or ExFAT) was solved last year, probably because of a kernel update.

I believe it has a lot to do with the default amount of dirty memory. dirty memory is mostly the write cache, which is unnecessary to have a lot of, as that does not improve anything after a certain point, but at best it can mislead you to believe that a copy opetation started with 200 MB/s and that it finished when it actually did not yet.

web.archive.org/web/20220828115647/
/62513

www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/
/vm.html

you can fix these limits with sysctl files. they are loaded on boot on typical systemd systems. suggestions are in the manjaro post, relevant for any desktop linux system.

maybe it’s worth to set these up even if you are good for now. It’s good to hear a kernel change could have fixed it though. maybe they have finally revised the defaults, they wanted to do that for a few years now


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WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 16 Aug 17:26 collapse

I will have a look, didn’t even know about kernel.org, nobody before you mentioned it.

its mostly developer documentation about programming APIs, but there’s also admin docs, not only at the admin-guide pages.

if the script would get executed whenever I start the machine or go out of standby. Which is not the case, sometimes it just doesn’t happen and I have to do it manually.

what is its current trigger?

if yours is a systemd based system, it’s often recommended to make a service unit file for the script, like this:

[Unit]
Name=restore gamma on resume
WantedBy=sleep.target

[Service]
After=sleep.target
Exec=/usr/local/bin/yourscript.sh

save this in /etc/systemd/system/gammasleep.service (runs services as root), and run systemctl daemon-reload for it to notice the new file. systemctl enable --now to start it and make it autostarted on boot.

I have written this from memory on phone, so it might need corrections, but this is basically it, plus edit the exec line. docs is in man systemd.service, man systemd.unit. man systemd.directives tells you which man page documents a specific key.

you can check logs with journalctl -u gammasleep.service. an f gives you a running log with shorter history.

probably I could have written all of this after you confirmed you did not use a systemd service yet


It’s all those little inconvenient and unreliable things that keep me from using Linux for anything that goes beyond browsing the web or doing office stuff

oh I felt the same when I first tried to switch to linux on my main desktop. everything was inconvenient without my usual tools and the system was breaking down from time to time. I got burned out, 2 years later I retried and now I haven’t gone back to the windows install for months, and there’s not much problems now. probably I was being clumsy and doing things the wrong way 2 years ago, but it’s hard to tell because I don’t remember.

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bluejayway@lemmy.zip on 15 Aug 00:14 collapse

not trying to be rude, but it’s easy to get tunnel vision especially with tech spaces. before becoming involved in tech i had no idea that linux was even a thing. most of these people need education, they just didn’t know their options. they didn’t “choose” to throw away their rights because they didn’t know they had a choice.

swelter_spark@reddthat.com on 15 Aug 01:38 collapse

I agree with this.

Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip on 14 Aug 18:40 next collapse

The majority of zoomers are 18 or older. The youngest are 13.

SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Aug 19:29 next collapse

Relevant: <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/2f8678bd-35df-48e6-92d2-be339d95c933.webp">

chuckleslord@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 19:38 next collapse

So 1 in 3 Zoomers are under 18. A little less, since birth rates fall every year.

Zerush@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 19:58 next collapse

As one of the first Baby Boomers, it’s somewhat surrealistic for me to proof that I’m old enough to access an fucking web page.

Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 23:24 next collapse

I hear that - I was around when Arche and Fido-net and BBS’es were king. You want my id? Great I’ll just fax it to you.

SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Aug 23:47 collapse

As a millennial, it, too, is insane.

Which begs the question: who thinks this is a needed thing and a good idea? Who is pushing this agenda?

NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml on 15 Aug 00:29 next collapse

somebody in another post a few days ago suggested that this was about gaining control of the media narrative by gradually locking down parts of the internet. The idea being that today it’s adult content but tomorrow its about disagreeable narratives on YouTube, TikTok, and other secondary sources of Information.

-I’d think it were a stretch of the imagination but it was shown that the motives for trying to ban TikTok (in the U.S.) were the narratives shared on the platform about Israel’s ongoing genocide.

floofloof@lemmy.ca on 15 Aug 15:51 collapse

It’s about surveillance and control. Censor what people can see, require ID so you can monitor who’s viewing what, and let people know you see what they’re doing so that they become wary of using the internet for political organization. Pedophiles and terrorists are just convenient bogeymen to scare people into assenting to this.

Rubanski@discuss.tchncs.de on 14 Aug 20:42 next collapse

Why is it called “Lost Generation”?

Nasan@sopuli.xyz on 14 Aug 21:29 next collapse

Going into WWI was a bad time to be coming of age.

SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Aug 21:33 next collapse

Personally, I don’t know.

From en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Generation :

The Lost Generation was the demographic cohort that reached early adulthood during World War I, and preceded the Greatest Generation. The social generation is generally defined as people born from 1883 to 1900, coming of age in either the 1900s or the 1910s, and were the first generation to mature in the 20th century. The term is also particularly used to refer to a group of American expatriate writers living in Paris during the 1920s.[1][2][3] Gertrude Stein is credited with coining the term, and it was subsequently popularized by Ernest Hemingway, who used it in the epigraph for his 1926 novel The Sun Also Rises: “You are all a lost generation.”[4][5] “Lost” in this context refers to the “disoriented, wandering, directionless” spirit of many of the war’s survivors in the early interwar period.[6]

In the wake of the Industrial Revolution, Western members of the Lost Generation grew up in societies that were more literate, consumerist, and media-saturated than ever before, but which also tended to maintain strictly conservative social values. Young men of the cohort were mobilized on a mass scale for World War I, a conflict that was often seen as the defining moment of their age group’s lifespan. Young women also contributed to and were affected by the war, and in its aftermath gained greater freedoms politically and in other areas of life. The Lost Generation was also heavily vulnerable to the Spanish flu pandemic and became the driving force behind many cultural changes, particularly in major cities during what became known as the Roaring Twenties.

Later in their midlife, they experienced the economic effects of the Great Depression and often saw their own sons leave for the battlefields of World War II. In the developed world, they tended to reach retirement and average life expectancy during the decades after the conflict, but some significantly outlived the norm. The Lost Generation became completely ancestral when the last surviving person who was known to have been born in the Lost Generation or during the 19th century, Nabi Tajima, died in 2018 at age 117.[7]

SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Aug 21:35 collapse

Tldr: looks like life shit completely down their throats. Kinda feels familiar


ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 23:02 next collapse

It’s OK, they were saved in the end 
 by a war that killed 100 million people.

SaneMartigan@aussie.zone on 14 Aug 23:18 collapse

Life and the wealthy have been shitting on people for ever.

Tingle@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 13:31 collapse

It’s to do with the amount of people that were killed in WW1, essentially the sheer number of people that died during the war resulted in a generation nearly ceasing to exist.

skisnow@lemmy.ca on 15 Aug 05:26 next collapse

Oh great, a graph telling me I’m going to die soon. I’m not even that old.

SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Aug 05:42 collapse

I know we don’t know each other very well, but
 Can I have your stuff?

skisnow@lemmy.ca on 15 Aug 06:13 collapse

I’ve let my family know that SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone can have my VHS tape of the original West End production of Cats, my Windows 98 CD-R with the license key written on it in marker pen, my Tazos collection (all 4 of them) and my Haynes Workshop Manual for Ford Escort. Enjoy.

tyler@programming.dev on 15 Aug 07:27 next collapse

damn, a haynes manual. you really are gonna die soon. me too.

SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Aug 08:41 collapse

The little dance I just danced. This is all I’ve ever wanted. Happy day. Praise the god of the toilet.

TerraRoot@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 21:21 collapse

Why don’t we just say people in their 20’s, 30’s, teens, why we gotta have an extra fucking label

SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Aug 23:00 collapse

Because when you were born correlates with your cultural experiences and therefore your behaviors. Not always, bit broadly. And if you try to define groupings for those years, you can see clearly defined generations, that were really clear with the baby boomers, who were the American children of American soldiers coming back from world war 2, and then their resultant children, generation y/the “millennials”, named thusly for coming of age around the time of the millennium.

Like sure, it’s all social constructs. But, so is language.

Baby boomers generally got some of the biggest economical booms in history, along with the population “boom” of their births. But that was only if you were able, white, cisgender, heterosexual, and male. The civil rights movements of the 50s, 60s, and onwards were both possible but also necessary because of the empowerment of those demographics.

But also, because of that general success, a lot of baby boomers (cishet white men) took on the behavioral traits of being largely pieces of shit. Not all, just like “not all men”. But, it’s enough of a pattern of entitlement and sexism and repression and psychosocial behavioral resultant of lead poisoning, that that’s what the baby boomer generation is kind’ve seen as, now, regardless if any individual does or doesn’t fit any of those things.

And so, we can largely group and label the generation and attach it to a current age group and try to predict or explain behavior.

Unfortunately, this is also discrimination in many cases where it isn’t true. Personally, I try to avoid profiling entirely because the habit is gross. But, I would be lying if I said I didn’t clearly see a solid pattern. I know, that they’re just people like the rest of us, and if we were in their shoes, we would entirely end up just like them. But then that again brings it to it being generational, and not just age.

You think I like being reminded and disappointed when people end up fitting their negative stereotypes? You think it’s easy to try to be a good person against my own upbringing? It’s not. But we have to try. And working to understand is a big part of that. More people need to ask “why”, and, I know you were asking rhetorically, but you were close enough that I think it deserves recognition. So, good on you for that.

Whatever the millennial generation ends up being known for, I’m curious. But until then, we can’t give up trying to make ourselves, the world, and each other better. Because once you give up
 Well
 We can never give up.

“Why not?” Etc etc.

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expr@programming.dev on 14 Aug 20:25 next collapse

Why does a graphics card app know how fucking old you are?

Zerush@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 20:43 next collapse

Well, if you use an ATI 3D Rage card in your PC it can be deduced, or buying a Graphic card with you credit card.

CPMSP@midwest.social on 15 Aug 00:45 next collapse

Well now that the real question, isn’t it?

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 15 Aug 00:56 next collapse

Because you playing gooner bait for 10 hours per day, and they want that info to sell you more gooner bait.

Ronno@feddit.nl on 15 Aug 07:55 next collapse

Yeah, most people in this thread are focusing on gen Z, but why can’t a minor play video games? What if a kid wants to play a game like Rollercoaster Tycoon or the Sims, must they really be 18 years old? And why does a hardware component then verify that? It’s like age verification on a plate before dinner, fucking weird.

MacNCheezus@lemmy.today on 15 Aug 23:42 collapse

It doesn’t, but the app requires making an account on NVidia’s website, which also allows you to access their GeForce Live cloud gaming service, and therefore is affected by the law because certain games are deemed unsafe for children.

upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Aug 21:45 next collapse

This seems like it can be easily avoided by just downloading the drivers without using the nvidia app.

JackbyDev@programming.dev on 14 Aug 23:32 collapse

Are you actually able to do that now? You used to not be able to or they were sufficiently hidden.

1371113@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 00:04 next collapse

They’ve never been hidden. You just go to the website, put in your model and download it. There’s apps that do it for you now which is where this must be coming from. Still doesn’t change the fact you can directly download the driver.

JackbyDev@programming.dev on 15 Aug 01:43 next collapse

Maybe they were harder to find on their site like a decade ago when I first got an Nvidia card and I just never tried looking again.

MrNobody@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Aug 02:48 next collapse

Nope. Always been that way. Enter model, choose platform, download drivers. Ive had to do it for at least a decade and a half since the nvidia program has never not borked out trying to update drivers.

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 03:40 collapse

you are speaking about the advanced search page, but I don’t even know how would I find it without my bookmark

1371113@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 04:00 collapse

lol. Yeah navigating any driver website is a pita. I just search nVidia driver download and it drops me there.

1371113@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 04:02 collapse

It’s been the same for 20 years at least. My first nVidia card was a geforce2 but I had an integrated SOC one that borrowed main board memory before that called a RIVA TNT 2. Prior to that had an ISA SVGA card but can’t remember who made it:

MML@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 02:07 collapse

Windows will do it for you as well but you have to enable it.

1371113@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 03:58 collapse

That’s what in used to use but there are some features you can’t access without the physx components so I get the whole package now. For baseline it’s good for sure.

Ajen@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 01:41 next collapse

They’re hidden in the same sense that the real “download” button is hidden on most torrent sites.

upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Aug 16:47 collapse

You can just use the manual search tool on nvidia to find your driver. My understanding is the 9 & 10 series support is going to end soon.

www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/

When you run the installer you have a choice to install their app or not.

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works on 14 Aug 22:09 next collapse

Zoomers need to learn they don’t need to use Nvidia’s app for this. Just download the driver directly.

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irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Aug 00:49 next collapse

Not adjusting settings, but definitely auto updates which require a login and they’ve been adding more and more things that require an account so they can track you.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 15 Aug 00:55 next collapse

All of these people are future linux enjoyers, they just don't know it yet.

The trend has accelerated this year, corpos are data mining and they want to court proof data against you.

It has been at least 10 years coming but it is now very clear for what they are going for here.

Between Israeli genocide and pedos within the power structure, the anti resime sentiment is growing too strong and it seems for once, fake news can't change the narrative.

We are heading into the future where we won't be able to criticize genocide or pedophiles.

meliaesc@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 01:02 collapse

Unfortunately it actually just means less computer literacy. If you can’t use a computer you just stay on your phone.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 15 Aug 01:06 next collapse

any phone that aint grapheneOS, aint worth using imho

however, i doubt grapheneos team will be able to bring a phone to market. looks like US and EU will outlaw them anyway here soon.

Im_old@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 12:02 collapse

You mean outlawing buying a second hand pixel phone and flashing it yourself?

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 15 Aug 15:26 collapse

Something like possession of in sanctioned device either related to terrorism or child abuze.

They will start light but it will have a cooling effect where only the brave will still do it and they will die off eventually.

Gonzako@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 03:43 collapse

which is also easier to fingerprint!

douglasg14b@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 06:15 collapse

Literally nothing about their software should require a login.

It’s asinine

some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org on 15 Aug 01:25 next collapse

Boomers will also get locked out of a lot of content because verifying their age is too complicated. I feel no sympathy.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 06:54 collapse

They did the thing they were supposed to do. They voted for the Ultra-Far Left Woke Labour Party.

Squiddork@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 07:39 next collapse

Shh

echodot@feddit.uk on 15 Aug 08:22 next collapse

Labour are far left are they. I feel your political compass is somewhat misconfigured.

databoose@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 11:49 next collapse

Dumb take, here take my downvote.

Aimeeloulm@feddit.uk on 15 Aug 12:06 next collapse

Labour hasn’t been anywhere near the left since Tory Blair became leader, he grew up a Tory supporter, failed to get in as a Tory politician so decide on transforming Labour into the neo-Tory party which he was successful at, not that Labour before hand was the friend of the average worker or the poor but at least they were better, now they are hostile to the working class and the poor 😞

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 15:00 collapse

Labour hasn’t been anywhere near the left since Tory Blair became leader

Well, there was that brief bright moment with Corbyn. But then he got the Julius Caeser treatment for siding with the Radical Islamist Extremism of the anti-genocide movement.

now they are hostile to the working class and the poor

Okay, but have you considered all the new AI they are helping create.

AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml on 15 Aug 17:28 collapse

I cannot tell if you are serious

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mugita_sokiovt@discuss.online on 15 Aug 03:52 next collapse

This is why you Linux, point blank.

Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de on 15 Aug 07:15 next collapse

Nvidia is still closed source, even on Linux


ewenak@jlai.lu on 15 Aug 12:15 next collapse

Use the nouveau drivers of course

mugita_sokiovt@discuss.online on 15 Aug 19:59 collapse

They did release Open Kernel drivers, which I hadn’t tested. Those are the “open-source” drivers. Sure, their firmware could be proprietary (though I didn’t see any issues with it).

echodot@feddit.uk on 15 Aug 08:21 next collapse

Does the Linux build of GeForce experience not do this, because if it does then it’s still a problem

ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Aug 12:27 collapse

We don’t have geforce experience on Linux (afaik). Ubuntu has a built in “proprietary drivers” app that just pulls the Nvidia drivers for you on first boot after install. Very low effort (on the happy path at least. If you use unsupported/brand new cards, you’re probably going to have a much less fun time)

5redie8@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 15:28 next collapse

Linux beginners and Nvidia cards aren’t really a good mix in all fairness

mugita_sokiovt@discuss.online on 15 Aug 20:00 collapse

That’s because people don’t really learn which operating systems work well for NVIDIA drivers. I’d recommend Mint, Pop_OS!, Nobara Project and CachyOS based upon their experience with computers. Those all work well with NVIDIA.

5redie8@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 20:37 collapse

Very good point, always forget Nobara exists but it seems like the best “out of the box” solution if you really don’t want to do it yourself. That being said, to learn anything you need to understand how it works and it’s endlessly frustrating to me that Linux is the one where people just throw their hands up and give up instantly if anything goes wrong and they can’t fix it in the same way they did in a completely different platform.

drspectr@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 15:52 next collapse

nvidia drivers in linux can be a monumental mess

Manmoth@lemmy.ml on 15 Aug 17:11 next collapse

That certainly was the case for a long time. I’ve haven’t had any issues for 5+ years. Devs made it a priority.

mugita_sokiovt@discuss.online on 15 Aug 19:51 collapse

Just don’t use a monitor that’s DRM’d for Windows only. I made that mistake with an FI27Q-SA (AORUS monitor) once, and that was a $600 US waste.

5redie8@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 20:38 collapse

How does that even work, is there just no video output when you boot in to Linux?

FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de on 15 Aug 16:16 collapse

On Linux you have no official GUI companion app for your graphics card from NVIDIA AFAIK.

Horse@lemmygrad.ml on 15 Aug 16:32 next collapse

nvidia-settings is official

<img alt="" src="https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/68ab0eca-6a58-4e46-8efd-e706482f51d5.png">

mugita_sokiovt@discuss.online on 15 Aug 19:50 collapse

On X11 you do (I think some distros ship it). Otherwise, that’s not necessarily the case on Wayland.

FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de on 15 Aug 23:05 collapse

You are right. I forgot, that there actually is a GUI panel for NVIDIA. It’s pretty simplistic, but still that makes my previous claim false.

SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml on 15 Aug 04:10 next collapse

gen z is pushing 30 btw

phpinjected@lemmy.sdf.org on 15 Aug 05:34 next collapse

feels so grimm

tane@lemy.lol on 15 Aug 14:02 next collapse

This happens all the time. I still see what I call boomers (likely younger than actual boomers) call gen z millennials constantly. The oldest millennials are like mid 40s but in the popular imagination we are still kids in our 20s. It’s like society is 10-15 years behind almost

eletes@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 16:11 collapse

For the curious 1997-2012 28-13

phpinjected@lemmy.sdf.org on 15 Aug 05:37 next collapse

most video games are mostly slop, the last best video games was done before clinton was elected.

Brylant@discuss.online on 15 Aug 07:56 next collapse

This is why I am AMD fanboy

EarthsLastSnow@lemmy.ml on 15 Aug 17:19 collapse

This is why I wish I was AMD fanboy :((

KrenkoMobBoss@feddit.uk on 15 Aug 07:56 next collapse

NVCleanInstall lets you install NVidia drivers without using their GeForce Experience software

bigbabybilly@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 14:22 next collapse

Zoomers can’t be bothered to spell Nvidia correctly. I wouldn’t let ‘em install my drivers either đŸ„Č

ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca on 15 Aug 16:34 next collapse

You can download the Nvidia driver directly from their website

People who care about privacy wouldn’t use the Nvidia app. (And wouldn’t be on Windows)

chimp@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Aug 18:17 collapse

Yeah, but Nvidia Cards on Linux are “fun”. Fuck Nvidia

ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca on 15 Aug 18:30 collapse

They have worked for a while now. They just aren’t as good as AMD cards but that’s true on all platforms

ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online on 15 Aug 17:08 next collapse

How the fuck does this protect kids? Adjusting graphics settings? Why not bar them from adjusting volume while they’re at it.

Hadriscus@jlai.lu on 15 Aug 17:24 next collapse

wow, wow there. no loud music after 8. If the nightstand mic doesn’t pick up the nightly potus prayer, your front door is getting bust open

ulterno@programming.dev on 15 Aug 21:17 collapse

You are in violation of the Community Guidelines due to not marking the comment “NSFW”.
Of course we are not going to tell you why, but you get 1 strike.

/s

lightnsfw@reddthat.com on 15 Aug 19:47 next collapse

Some of those graphics might be showing boobies. Obviously this must be regulated.

hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de on 15 Aug 20:20 collapse

No it is not. Dont be a fucking ridiculous idiot.

Nvidia app is DEI woke. Gotta protect the kids.

PrivacyDingus@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 10:41 collapse

To be clear this image is faked.

MetalMachine@feddit.nl on 15 Aug 17:56 next collapse

So it sounds like the wall was written to police more than just porn sites? Or is this companies doing this to harvest your data?

DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 18:05 collapse

It’s to prevent autonomous agency. It’s to prevent people from having privacy and individuality end of discussion. The last system like this was under the gestapo and secret police under Hitlers regime.

minorkeys@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 18:42 next collapse

They are denying us the power of the digital age, taking it for themselves.

LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 20:36 collapse

Lol good luck, the entire thing that makes it so powerful is the collective

PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 20:02 next collapse

I don’t use that shitty application. Just use Nvidia Inspector and Nvidia Control Panel. That application is data collection spyware.

nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Aug 21:00 collapse

I don’t use that shitty application. Just use Linux.

PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 21:28 next collapse

I’ll switch to Linux when there isn’t a performance trade off for using an Nvidia GPU.

kieron115@startrek.website on 15 Aug 21:31 next collapse

Just switch to CachyOS and so far I’ve noticed improved performance if anything (on a 3080 10gb). The latency difference between it and Windows is just unreal.

PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 22:50 collapse

That’s the case for DX11 or older games but any DX 12 game it’s 20 to 15 percent less performance and that’s a no go for me. Once it gets addressed, then I’ll consider switching.

kieron115@startrek.website on 15 Aug 23:25 collapse

Maybe it’s system to system, or something with the older nvidia drivers, but I’ve specifically noticed the improved performance in Expedition 33 and Jedi: Fallen Order which I think are both DX11/12?

PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world on 16 Aug 01:40 collapse

gamingonlinux.com/
/nvidia-are-working-on-a-gener


Looks like they are working on it.

kieron115@startrek.website on 16 Aug 02:53 collapse

Damn so its gonna get even faster? My Windows install must have been more borked than I thought bc I already get performance parity at minimum. Guess I should have kept up with reformatting annually instead of biennially.

luciferofastora@feddit.org on 16 Aug 09:22 collapse

Running a 3060, no issues I can tell.

YMMV obviously: There was some driver fuckery I had to sort out because I’m stupid (curious and clueless is a dangerous mix), and I might not be running the most demanding games or programs (Jedi: Survivor might be one of the heavier ones? I have no idea)

I also might have lower standards: I’m playing 1080p 60fps and generally don’t notice FPS issues unless it drops below ~45, because I grew up using to an old-as-fuck laptop to play Skyrim at 20fps (unless there were too many spells flying around and it dropped to 5-10).

Still, the consensus seems to be that AMD is better for Linux, and I’m coming around too.

PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world on 16 Aug 15:48 collapse

I run a 4080 super and spent 2+ K on my system. I want it to run well.

KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca on 16 Aug 00:52 collapse

If there are Linux applications that aren’t complete janky shit, I’ll switch.

I need a multitrack DAW recorder that understands older and newer audio interfaces and a good multi-camera video editor.

nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 16 Aug 02:32 collapse

I use bitwig and davinci and they work great. not sure what you mean by “applications that aren’t complete janky shit.” there are a ton of applications available on linux, both paid and free, and their quality varies as much as anywhere else.

dropped_packet@lemmy.zip on 16 Aug 05:47 collapse

“I tried nothing and I’m all out of options!”

dortmundqueerjugend@feddit.org on 15 Aug 21:54 next collapse

b-but how are they going to protect us minors
from the evil NVIDIA app?!

serious talk tho the overreach was unsurprising

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 16 Aug 01:39 next collapse

That is a lawsuit.

mlg@lemmy.world on 16 Aug 07:40 collapse

The funniest thing about proprietary nvidia drivers on linux is that they’re still easier to install than using the GeForce app lmao.

dnf install akmod-nvidia

No sign in to a fat game launcher ad ridden app to upgrade your GPU driver