Windows 11 to add an AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders, warns of security risk (www.windowslatest.com)
from RockBottom@feddit.org to privacy@lemmy.ml on 18 Nov 14:29
https://feddit.org/post/21797858

Crossposted from lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/57854507

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PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml on 18 Nov 14:44 next collapse

Security risks to whom? Who is warned about it?

crandlecan@mander.xyz on 18 Nov 14:53 collapse

Click now and find out!

Right after the Cloudflare crash… 👉👈

PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml on 18 Nov 21:04 collapse

Yep, Cloudflare working again ruined it. I thought this AI would be checking your files to see if you have inappropriate content. I guess that one is coming in the next update.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 16:03 next collapse

I’ve drawn the line at W10. They can have W11 nonsense.

eldavi@lemmy.ml on 18 Nov 18:22 collapse

i decided this for myself a couples years ago (except it was windows 7 for me).

fast forward a decade later and here i am typing this on a laptop that came with windows 11. lol

the only way i escaped this until now as being able to afford the hefty price tags on linux-only hardware with something like system76 and i can’t afford it anymore since i no longer earn a software engineer’s salary.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 18:33 next collapse

fast forward a decade later and here i am typing this on a laptop that came with windows 11. lol

Why can’t you downgrade to W10?

Anyways, I’ve buttoned up this install of Windows, blocked all known telemetry points of access with an extensive block list in the .host file as well as others, and a litany of other modifications. I make images of my setup so that, if the wheels fall off, I can always spin up an image and be back in business without having to reinvent the wheel.

I do use Linux and Mac in my network as well. However, I have one piece of software I use for my private business, and I have never been able to find a exact opensource/Linux equivalent. In fact I don’t think there is anything out there that does what it does. So, W10 is it for me.

eldavi@lemmy.ml on 18 Nov 18:38 collapse

Why can’t you downgrade to W10?

i didn’t know i could do that. is it possible with a windows oem license that came with the laptop?

this is the first windows machine i’ve had since 2012 and i’ve only used linux or mac since then so i’m not so well versed in the windows eco-system anymore.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 18:52 collapse

is it possible with a windows oem license that came with the laptop?

Well, since I’ve never had a W11 OEM, I am not 100% sure you can acomplish this, but doing a cursory search it seems that you can:

howtogeek.com/…/how-to-downgrade-from-windows-11-…

eldavi@lemmy.ml on 19 Nov 17:47 collapse

looks like it only works if you upgraded from win10.

this laptop came w win11 by default.

irmadlad@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 19:08 next collapse

Well, fuck.

Lfrith@lemmy.ca on 19 Nov 23:01 collapse

If you really want to go to Windows 10 might be able to do it with Windows 10 ltsc. Activate it with MAS and should be good seeing as you don’t need to be logged into a Microsoft account for it to keep getting security updates unlike what is being offered to Windows 10 Pro and below that needs a Microsoft account to be logged in to first be able to extend support and to stay logged in.

eldavi@lemmy.ml on 20 Nov 18:59 collapse

what’s MAS?

Lfrith@lemmy.ca on 21 Nov 00:06 collapse

Just an activation script that is on github and lot of people have used to activate Windows.

monovergent@lemmy.ml on 18 Nov 22:46 next collapse

the only way i escaped this until now as being able to afford the hefty price tags on linux-only hardware with something like system76 and i can’t afford it anymore since i no longer earn a software engineer’s salary.

Why not a second-hand ThinkPad/Latitude/ProBook? They’re cheap and cheerful and well-supported by most distros.

eldavi@lemmy.ml on 18 Nov 23:04 collapse

I’ve done that in the past and it’s taught me that I have bad luck w second hand personal electronics.

Lfrith@lemmy.ca on 19 Nov 10:52 collapse

Can you install wondows 11 ltsc on it? That’s one way to escape copilot crap for a few years while new AI stuff gets pushed on pro versions and below every month.

eldavi@lemmy.ml on 19 Nov 17:43 collapse

up until now, i thought that windows home was the lowest level trim i could get.

recklessengagement@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 18:54 next collapse

So glad I took the plunge and switched to Linux. I’m 2 weeks in and thus far it has exceeded my expectations

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 18 Nov 18:56 next collapse

i’m so happy with my decision to switch some years ago. in my case, valve’s proton was it.

highly recommend if you can. linux can indeed be a bit frustrating to get used to but once i did, it transformed the way i use computers for the better.

take the last year of support for windows 10 as an opportunity to dual boot in preparation for the windowsmageddon.

Sunsofold@lemmings.world on 19 Nov 00:15 collapse

It has gotten so much easier too. I started with Ubuntu on an old laptop to try it out back in ~2017. I had some ‘learning experiences.’ This year, it took almost no effort to slap bazzite on a machine, do a few small tweaks using a GUI settings app, no terminal activity needed, and let even someone who has never used a CLI just get on with their day with basically no issue. At this point, the only issue is a handful of software, specifically Adobe and their nonsense.

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 19 Nov 07:59 collapse

definitely. back then some games needed me to compile cherrypicked patches to enable it to run, or some extra features. generally a bunch of fiddling around. today it’s pretty much plug and play.

Admax@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 19:53 next collapse

This feature is completely optional and is never turned on by default.

So far…

affiliate@lemmy.world on 18 Nov 22:30 next collapse

this feature will be entirely optional until microsoft realizes nobody in their right mind would enable it

visc@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 08:38 collapse

Is this going to be one of those “optional but we’ll ask you every day” things?

HurlingDurling@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 03:36 next collapse

I really need fusion360 to run on arch

HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml on 19 Nov 03:52 next collapse

Run it in a VM? Maybe even one of those fancy ones that make it appear as a normal window in your Linux DE. Doesn’t solve the problem of the spyware existing but at least it’s contained and can’t touch your Linux apps.

HurlingDurling@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 04:59 collapse

Interesting, I’ll try it tomorrow.

fiddlesticks@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Nov 09:36 collapse

This is an option for that, although it hardly works for me

HurlingDurling@lemmy.world on 19 Nov 12:51 collapse

Yeah, I never got it to work for me last I tried.

octobob@lemmy.ml on 19 Nov 09:42 next collapse

Fucking christ, now the mini PC I cart around to look at drawings and schematics at work is going to freeze up and be slow even more than it already is for some crap I don’t need

FreddiesLantern@leminal.space on 20 Nov 16:55 next collapse

I just … of all the shit that MS has pulled throughout the years. This is just spectacularly bad.

Remember when voice activation left a loophole for hackers to just do stuff by talking to the OS through the speakers?

You could say that that was a “silly oopsi”.

But this is … like that uncle who got way too drunk at the family party and ended up streaking the backyard with fireworks in his hands, … buknaked.

afporritt1001@lemmy.today on 26 Nov 18:04 collapse

So glad I installed Ubuntu 2510 so I do not get ai garbage and privacy issues security issues so Ido recommend Ubuntu for freedom