Saudi Arabian government company is buying Pokémon go and 100 million players real time location data (www.404media.co)
from ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com to privacy@lemmy.ml on 12 Mar 17:57
https://lemmy.selfhostcat.com/post/267791

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metalslug53@lemmy.world on 12 Mar 18:11 next collapse

F

Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com on 12 Mar 18:22 next collapse

Pikmin Bloom too

Booooo. That sucks.

I was never into Pokemon before this app but this game was fun just finding new discoveries even in my own city.

pipariturbiini@sopuli.xyz on 12 Mar 21:31 next collapse

Luckily geocaching is still a thing!

deus@lemmy.world on 12 Mar 23:15 next collapse

Now that sounds like the perfect replacement for Pokémon Go for me, which means it’s an app I’ll install as a way to motivate me to go walk outside and then feel guilty because I just don’t.

nokturne213@sopuli.xyz on 13 Mar 00:48 collapse

Too bad it is $30/year for the app to work.

lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 Mar 02:16 collapse

Geocaching isn’t limited to a single app… Go find a geocaching website and punch the coords into whatever mapping app you use.

nokturne213@sopuli.xyz on 13 Mar 03:49 collapse

I thought it was all through groundspeak.

Zoop@beehaw.org on 13 Mar 07:58 next collapse

Nope! Geocaching was a thing long before phone apps were a thing.

nokturne213@sopuli.xyz on 13 Mar 14:03 collapse

I used to geocache back when i had to get coordinates from geocaching.com and put them into my Garmin handheld gps. But I had gone looking for a cache my dad found on accident while camping and to view it on their website we had to have premium. Same thing with almost all of the caches around my town and surrounding county.

Are there sites other than groundspeak’s geocaching.com? I searched DDG last night and everything was an article about geocaching and lead back to geocaching.com or was geocaching.com.

I have considered looking into letterboxing, a friend used to do that while i geocached, but I never did it.

lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 Mar 14:37 collapse

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocaching

Started officially in 2000, coinciding (but not by coincidence) with a more-accurate GPS network. Long before what would now be considered “smart” devices (Palm Pilot, Handspring Visor, etc) had any sort of GPS abilities. You had to have, or know someone who owned, a handheld GPS device.

sudoer777@lemmy.ml on 13 Mar 05:10 collapse

Street Complete lets you walk around and answer questions that go to OSM

davel@lemmy.ml on 12 Mar 18:24 next collapse

I don’t see as any worse, necessarily. For all I know, Saudi Arabia was previously buying the data from Niantic piecemeal.

Forbes, 2016: How Niantic Is Profiting Off Tracking Where You Go While Playing ‘Pokémon GO’

Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com on 12 Mar 18:34 collapse

While true, I felt (if misguided) more comfortable with my data under California data protection laws than Saudi Arabia.

FauxLiving@lemmy.world on 12 Mar 20:16 next collapse

Yeah, but we can’t have real data privacy laws in the US. Won’t you think of the shareholders?

They’ve gotten rich off of spying on you wholesale and selling the information to anybody with cash.

It would be rude and un-American to ask them to stop profiting off of morally bankrupt practices. Plus, they’d just say no and they own the government too.

comfortablydumb@lemmy.ml on 12 Mar 23:47 collapse

As a European, I never feel comfortable with my data under any US state’s data protection laws.

lnxtx@feddit.nl on 12 Mar 18:36 next collapse

Business ethics? Meh, just profits, just profits.

Empricorn@feddit.nl on 12 Mar 18:42 next collapse

Unregulated Capitalism.

devfuuu@lemmy.world on 12 Mar 19:15 next collapse

Always has been, and nothing will continue to be done about it.

irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 13 Mar 05:51 collapse

But it’s “just business”. You can’t blame them. That’s the get out of jail free card, often literally.

/s

roguetrick@lemmy.world on 12 Mar 18:46 next collapse

Saudi Arabia really likes to invest in dead tech.

ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml on 12 Mar 23:31 next collapse

They don’t care about the tech, they care about the data.

roguetrick@lemmy.world on 13 Mar 00:06 collapse

You give them too much credit on this one. This decision was likely spearheaded by some nepo appointment who is out to diversify in the worst way. When your send cousin Johnny to college in the West, you’re still not getting the best and brightest when he comes back. Whole structure of their investment fund is graft and bad decisions.

Compare Saudis system to Norway’s sovereign fund. Instead of being politically neutral, like everything in the house of Saud it’s a patronage system. They do big headline buys like this to convince everybody above them they’re actually doing something to diversify from oil market shocks. But in this case they’re buying a dry well that’s already had it’s data sold to those who wanted it and is burdened to IP licensing that likely drains much of its micro transaction potential while also being able to be revoked if the parent company stops liking what they’re doing. They’re not going to get much from a state security standpoint from it that they couldn’t get in ways that would cost several billion less and they’re not going to get much of a return of investment on it either. But since patronage rewards are front loaded they do stupid buys like this.

If they just wanted the data, they could’ve gotten it for much less than 3.8 billion. They likely could’ve gotten it for 3.7 billion less at least. Or just send some guys to steal it like they did with Twitter back in the day. Much cheaper.

Ledericas@lemm.ee on 13 Mar 05:03 next collapse

they need to branch out from thier dying, single industry, oil. they have been lapping up sports teams all over. turns out the desert is not a good place to live with little to no natural resources outside of oil. also being desert theres little to no arable land.

Auli@lemmy.ca on 13 Mar 14:00 collapse

Dead tech so many people play Pokemon go.

roguetrick@lemmy.world on 13 Mar 15:56 collapse

Sure but they’re just buying a licensed property with a declining player base and leaving Niantic with the base tech and the drive to innovate. It’s a dead end road where they’re buying the “secure” part of the company but it’s actually incredibly high risk because of how licensing agreements work. That’s why I call it dead tech. They’re not going to build anything out of it. It’ll just decline. Perhaps quite catastrophically at that.

Gloria@sh.itjust.works on 12 Mar 18:46 next collapse

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kozy138@lemm.ee on 12 Mar 20:20 collapse

Too much detail. Needs more jpg

Coldmoon@sh.itjust.works on 12 Mar 20:40 collapse

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Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de on 12 Mar 21:52 collapse
CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml on 12 Mar 19:19 next collapse

I can’t believe Saudi Arabia are nationalising Pokemon Go when the UK won’t even nationalise regional water monopolies. Honestly these things were never great for privacy and given the state of things I’m not sure I’m more concerned about a Saudi entity tracking me than a US one.

Not good news for gay Pokemon fans in that country though.

yeather@lemmy.ca on 12 Mar 19:42 next collapse

In the end all that changes is a Saudi company on NSA checks instead of a US one.

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml on 12 Mar 21:30 collapse

Gotta catch them all!

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml on 12 Mar 21:29 next collapse

First they came for my event pikachus, then they came for my shiny legendaries…

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml on 12 Mar 21:30 next collapse

Waiting for them to further push monetization schemes. I’ll bet on stat boosters and shiny rate enhancers for $$.

quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Mar 22:57 next collapse

OK so instead of tracking journalists with NSO spyware and murdering them,

they won’t even have to install NSO anymore.

prepare to see news reports of many more mysterious murders, and obvious assassinations.

misteloct@lemmy.world on 13 Mar 01:27 next collapse

Next up, Saudi Arabia buys the Samsung Galaxy and Google Pixel smartphone lines. Pokemon Go comes installed in the system partition for free with 1000 free PokeCoins, how generous!

_____@lemm.ee on 13 Mar 01:57 collapse

and then absolutely everyone I talk to will do usual ‘oh it’s not that bad , you’re over reacting’ with the additional “I don’t use it but I still have it installed”

misteloct@lemmy.world on 13 Mar 02:47 collapse

My mom: “hey honey how do I uninstall this Pokeman Go app? The uninstall button is greyed out. It’s using 20% of my storage and battery”

InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world on 13 Mar 04:59 collapse

All shinnies spawn at their embassy :sob emoji:

bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml on 12 Mar 23:27 next collapse

lol this is a crazy

NGC2346@sh.itjust.works on 13 Mar 01:49 next collapse

Jokes on them i’ve been cheating on this game with my location as some random places for a decade and lot of people have been doing this too.

root@lemmy.world on 13 Mar 02:41 next collapse

It’s been fun. Once this is official I guess it’s over for me.

Petter1@lemm.ee on 13 Mar 11:30 collapse

It was a rip off from the start…

I must confess, I was into it as well, but the game design was it to be so omnipresent that it hindered me on other tasks, so that I had to stop. I can’t play this game casually 😆 either all in or nothing, lol

ouch@lemmy.world on 13 Mar 05:16 next collapse

Any source that is readable without an account?

IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 Mar 08:16 collapse

Now add a new update that would encourge players to walk inside a Saudi Embassy… 💀