Vivaldi as alternative?
from HurlingDurling@lemm.ee to privacy@lemmy.ml on 28 Feb 14:48
https://lemm.ee/post/56868565

Hi everyone, with the whole Firefox ToS change and it’s fingerprinting I asked on mastodon if anyone could recommend a web browser alternative to Firefox and was recommend to go with Vivaldi due to their no fingerprinting, and allowing unlock to still work even though it uses manifest v3.

I am already switching to librefox on windows, and fence on android.

But I wanted to ask if the claims for vivaldi where true?

#privacy

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merde@sh.itjust.works on 28 Feb 14:55 next collapse

you can’t use uBlock with Vivaldi

HurlingDurling@lemm.ee on 28 Feb 14:57 next collapse

That’s what I was assuming, but wanted to confirm. Thanks

Libb@jlai.lu on 28 Feb 14:58 collapse

Note that they have their own ad-blocker (not as good as uBo, mind you).

land@lemmy.ml on 28 Feb 14:57 next collapse

You can use Ublock Origin Lite.

merde@sh.itjust.works on 28 Feb 15:07 collapse
zarlin@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Feb 16:16 collapse

It works just fine actually, the full (non-lite) version. For how long is still a question but the Vivaldi devs are keeping manifest v2 support alive for now.

schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de on 28 Feb 14:58 next collapse

You want to switch from a free and open source browser to a proprietary browser and think this will improve your privacy?

HurlingDurling@lemm.ee on 28 Feb 16:09 collapse

I’m not, please read my post. I’m just asking a question

tabel2@lemmy.wtf on 28 Feb 21:42 collapse

Vivaldi is not open source but source available.

Libb@jlai.lu on 28 Feb 14:57 next collapse

I like Vivaldi even though it has started to become a little bit too much of everything for quite some time (mail, calendar, RSS, notes luckily one can deactivate all that). For years, Vivaldi has been my second browser next to FF (which I’ve been using since… way before it was a thing as I started with Mosaic ;)). I also have a copy of Brave.

That said, yesterday I installed LibreWolf on my Linux machine to test it out as an alternative to FF because, well, that last change they made was one more I’m not a huge fan of and maybe it’s time to start considering changing my main browser and I’m not sure I want a chromium-based browser as my main one.

cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de on 28 Feb 15:56 collapse

What last changes?

land@lemmy.ml on 28 Feb 15:05 next collapse

I’ve tried out most of the popular browsers:

  • Arc
  • Firefox
  • Librewolf
  • Brave

I keep coming back to Vivaldi. Here are a few reasons why:

  • Built-in Workspaces (Way better than tab groups)
  • Customization (which I absolutely love)

I use Zen browser as backup. Firefox-based browsers always seem to have something broken, so it’s good to have a chromium-based browser.

I really like Brave for privacy reasons, but it lacks some of my most used features like workspace and split-view.

I know Vivaldi looks a bit overwhelming at first, but you can disable almost everything you don’t need.

JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 19:55 next collapse

So, what I’m reading here is that tab groups are better than privacy.

m33@theprancingpony.in on 28 Feb 21:26 collapse

@land @HurlingDurling Workspaces awesome

henchman2019@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 16:13 next collapse

I’m just some rando with no expertise to speak of … but … I just installed Vivaldi on Android and went to
https://coveryourtracks.eff.org and https://amiunique.org/fingerprint.

After testing Vivaldi, they both say it has a unique fingerprint.

Do these sites really tell the fingerprint story or is there more to it?

foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml on 28 Feb 20:09 next collapse

Vivaldi is not open source. For me that’s a no-go

CedarA64@lemm.ee on 28 Feb 20:31 next collapse

If you want to defend against fingerprinting, you should use multiple browsers to segment your browsing activity, not depend on one browser to have some kind of Wunderwaffen against fingerprinting. The idea is to not have your real identity tied to parts of your browsing activity that you want to keep private.

Personally, I do use Vivaldi as one of my browsers. I use it for accessing Apple services (e.g. iCloud Drive and Mail), but it is not one of my main browsers.

Aelis@lemm.ee on 28 Feb 21:38 next collapse

Old Vivaldi user here. Vivaldi is quite lacking in privacy, and chromium made it worse to use over the years. I would not recomend it.

You would be better off with Librewolf, if you want a more fancy fork you can try Floorp (silly name I know), it’s quite similar to Vivaldi regarding customisation and options.

Or you could try Zen…but as far as I am aware it’s still in alpha, lack some options, especially regarding privacy so may be not the best (you can still edit the about:config though). I keep trying it again and again, only to be disapointed because it’s still too fresh.

pound_heap@lemm.ee on 28 Feb 22:19 collapse

LibreWolf is a decent alternative. I switched to it a while ago as Firefox enshittification required more and more tweaks in configuration to close leaks.

I’ve heard good things about Mullvad browser too especially on fingerprint resistance, but LibreWolf works for me well enough to not search for alternatives.

For rare sites that I need to use and which don’t work in Firefox based browsers, I just use Brave.

Hiro8811@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 22:46 collapse

Mulvad is cool cause it uses most if not all protection that tor uses but for the regular web. It was made in partnership with tor after all