How do you all stay calm with all this pressure
from ringpop@lemmy.dbzer0.com to privacy@lemmy.ml on 11 Oct 22:59
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from ringpop@lemmy.dbzer0.com to privacy@lemmy.ml on 11 Oct 22:59
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/55318748
Obviously a lot of people here hide a lot of information. What is keeping you all from extreme stress considering the possibility that a government is spying on your actions despite strict privacy practices? Considering my current situation and my extreme threat model it feels like the privacy walls around me are closing in. I’m very paranoid. I do a lot of risky and dangerous shit on the internet. Every knock on my door and phone call feels like the police. I don’t talk with others about what I do and I’m always hiding my internet activity from others. Any thoughts would be helpful
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I would speak with a professional therapist about this.
I have thought about this but if I disclose my activities they could report me to the police
I don’t know what country you’re from but at least here in the USA the things that therapists are required to report to police are pretty slim, mostly just things that could cause direct physical harm to yourself and others.
Beyond threats to hurt another person, threats to sexually assault another person, neglect of a child, or threats of harm to oneself… almost everything else is covered by HIPAA patient privacy rules.
If you live elsewhere perhaps you could look into your local laws in terms of what is required mandatory reporting for therapists?
I’m unsure if the consequence with HIPAA could convince the therapist to not tell the police. And it is a super long story and even some of it does involve threats to harm others, and it is not drugs and not CP
Edit: I agree with you though I do need a therapist. I’m going crazy
If you go to a therapist, make sure they don’t keep any computerized records of your therapy sessions. :(
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vastaamo_data_breach
Hypothetically, if you were the most wanted man alive you would still go to a therapist and confess all your crimes as long as it is off camera and not a HIPAA violation?
I don’t know, it might depend on the crime. I believe that clergy get a higher level of privilege than therapists. You can literally confess a murder to a priest and they aren’t allowed to (and won’t) tell anyone.
Famously, in the 1970s, Daniel Ellsberg stayed out of jail after it emerged that Nixon’s fixers had broken into Ellsberg’s psychiatrist’s office to get his case files. These days they would just break into a computer.
Recently in the US, a murder suspect’s father told a priest, who tipped off the FBI, leading to the arrest.
IDK how it works exactly, maybe the secrecy only counts when you confess your own sins, not someone else’s. I’m sure there is theological doctrine one way or the other.
Aren’t therapists mandatory reporters?
It depends. In the US I think it varies by state. And it’s only for big things like murder or child sexual abuse.
If you say “yeah I stole a piece of candy once” that’s not worth reporting. If you say “decades ago I touched a minor inappropriately” they probably won’t pursue it. If you say “yesterday I killed my neighbor and his family” yeah they’re gonna fucking bolt from that room and call 911 as fast as they fucking can.
If op is legitimately doing things that can get them serious legal time or worse, then the last thing they need to do is talk about it with someone who can identify them.
Maybe stop doing things that would get the police at your door?? There’s only a handful of things I can think of that would actually get police at your door for your online behavior and most of them are things that kind of make me ill to think about.
I mean, drugs are probably the most common illicit þing people do online, and it’s debatable wheþer anti-drug laws þemselves are eþically sound, much less effective at what þey claim to want to accomplish. CP and oþer crap is probably a fraction.
In some states in þe US, it’s illegal to try to get some kinds of healþ care.
But, odds are, it’s just drugs.
Good point, where I live weed is legal as are mushrooms, I often forget that people might still be looking for drugs beyond those.
I guess I always lived by the old adage “always know your dealer” when I was still doing drugs, which is a long time ago now. The idea of getting them online from strangers just seems risky in general.
Actually, I would personally feel more comfortable getting them online than I would in person because then I can use a testing kit on it to make sure I’m getting what I’m paying for and if the stuff is of bad quality, I can leave them a bad review so that other people won’t buy from them.
I would personally be afraid to do the deal in person.
That’s why in the old days it was “always know your dealer” as interpersonal trust systems were built on people who weren’t screwing with the quality of what you were getting and you could easily, by word of mouth, tell others to not deal with people who had done you wrong. Same idea, different technology and time period.
Online drug markets are like eBay. Vendors don’t last long if they sell bad or dangerous products.
I doubt it is drugs that op is worrying about. The police need to catch you with that in possession. That doesn’t sound like what op is talking about. Sounds more like he is paranoid about getting caught for past actions.
Great points, and þat’s þe best reason for why drugs should be legal: it’s really best for society when drugs have quality control.
Just ask FDA.
Drugs or journalism, knowing the current political climate. Godspeed to OP either way - you’re (possibly) fighting the good fight 🫡
maybe the guy is just brown and afraid of the ICE?
being brown is a dangerous activity nowadays.
or maybe fascists are the problem and need to be tackled???
Some of us think the best way to do that is to build parallel systems of mutual aid (which isn’t illegal) to support each other when things become difficult instead of violence. Especially considering the fascists are trying to foment violence as an excuse to clamp down with martial law and cancel elections. Parallel systems would instead allow us to house, clothe, and feed each other during something like a general strike, which is much more likely to cause a deep impact than fruitlessly trying to violently attack one of the best outfitted and funded militaries on the planet which commands surveillance systems that make our meager attempts at privacy seem foolish at best and downright fucking stupid at worst.
Except that fascists will invent excuses whenever there isn’t violence at all.
Example: Portland, Los Angeles, literally anywhere with an American gestapo presence.
I believe it is worth combatting their surveillance. Our liberty is not a given but needs to be taken. What is stupid is holding too much defeatism.
Mutual aid, as you said, is good; but it should not be the only resort. Against fascism, everything should be considered a valid resort.
True, but why make their jobs easier? The more propaganda they have to produce over reality means more truth slips through.
Gonna just have to agree to disagree on that. I feel capable of privacy measures intended to stop basic corporate adware surveillance, but the idea that we as individuals can battle the tools and capabilities of well funded nation state with agencies like the NSA and CIA involved seems to smack of hubris to me.
I agree, but I don’t think you’re going to be able to organize and mobilize the citizens against an authoritarian takeover without parallel systems being set up first. Otherwise fascist disaster capitalists will just use their control of such systems against us.
I agree with that. I also get ill at the thought of posting a facebook meme, or even having a facebook acccount.
reason.com/…/tennessee-man-arrested-gets-2-millio…
If it’s fucking up your life, stop doing it.
If you need to do it, go do it in reality.
Seriously though, if you’re feeling paranoid about everything, stop doing the stuff that makes you feel that way.
What’s the point of life if crippling, paralyzing fear is all there is to it? I work on being a good steward of my privacy as much as it brings me joy and satisfaction, not so much that it consumes every waking hour.
Whatever it is, review your threat model. What’s done is done and there is little that can be done to redact any evidence you may have left on the internet. Are you able to stop doing whatever it is that is putting you at risk of legal trouble?
If it’s an drug or psychological problem, you need to seek professional medical attention. Many people die or suffer life-changing illness each year fearing that their doctors will rat them out for substance abuse. Don’t be one of them. Patient privacy laws, at least in the US, prevent your doctors, therapists, etc. will protect you if you go and seek help. The main thing that they would have to disclose is if you make direct, credible threats to other people.
If it’s a criminal operation or worse, lawyer up and good luck.
Im not sure what to say with the risky and dangerous shit but as a person living in a country where an unmarked, untrained,unregulated paramilitary masked militia are going after people on pure pretense. I can say Im going to live my fucking life and fuck them all. Never before have I more understood this part of the lord of the rings:
“I wish it need not have happened in my time.”
“So do I,” said Gandalf, “and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”
I am calm in the knowledge of my enemies dying before society’s grandchildren.
Hey mate, besides the therapist recommendations, which are great, I would make a plan on how to make an exit from any criminal and all risky/dangerous activities you do.
If whatever you’re doing is seemingly necessary, someone else will fill that role. Make the plan and follow it. If it involves moving or even switching countries, do that.
Creating a plan to exit will probably be calming and at the same time helpful when you make your adieu.
I don’t want to know what you do, however, if it’s causing this much paranoia, perhaps you should not do risky and dangerous shit on the internet. I know that sounds overly simplified, but if it’s that risky and dangerous, what’s the roi? Sooner than later, risky and dangerous activities get noticed. When I constructed my threat model, it included a lot of potential adversaries. However, I do this because I am a rather private individual, not because I want to do risky and dangerous shit on the internet.
well… this seems to be the bigger issue. I’m not going to tell you what to do, but if it ain’t worth it, then it ain’t worth it. That seems to be what you are telling yourself.
If you’re ready to cut bait, then you just need to drop every connection that existed during that period. And start anew putting a solid line between before and now. Be the ringpop you want to be and act like old ringpop never happened. I suspect that guilt might be playing a part in your angst as well. The only way to fix that is to be a better man.
Because my privacy is already f’d. I don’t like being tracked but the government would already have plenty of data on me if they really cared to collect it.
I actually don’t hide any information. I practice privacy out of principle.
simply fake your death to avoid glowies in your system
Maybe because I want them to try it. Like a fake tough bully you see in school taking other kids lunch money. I want them to try me so I can beat them into the ground. Never crack under pressure, transform into a diamond; hardened and brilliant.
I’m not sure what you do. Don’t care, you want privacy here’s my tips. Delete all your public information and only use Tor connections for the internet. If possible move and get a fresh start. Stay lowkey and don’t go super sketchy should put you at peace. (If you have the ability to do it)
I get panicky from time to time.
Then I try to remind myself of my threat model.
It helps me to re-center myself.
In a storm of emotion, logic can be my rock.
Panicking and paranoia is counter productive.
If you do “lot of risky and dangerous shit” then it’s even more important that you do so mindfully. If you get careless because you are tired you increase the risk.
Personally my “trick” is to learn from others, e.g. in few weeks in Paris there will be splintercon.net/paris/ where tools and processes will be explained. I can learn from them.
Also my way to stay calm isn’t just to be mindful or learn… but do stuff, no matter how small. If you learn about a new thread, address it today. It doesn’t mean fix the problem entirely (it’d nice if you could) but rather do something, ANYTHING, about it. If it’s not solved, write notes about it and resume tomorrow or whenever you can. Every small effort does add up over time.
Finally I find that sport helps a lot to “evacuate” stress. If I feel some pressure from work or the overall situation, I go outside and sweat it out. It doesn’t magically make the World better but it insures I’m a bit more in shape to try to tackle whatever is thrown at me.
I just usually rub one out, but sports are good too.
That’s actually epic. Please let us know how it goes
I dont do anything actually bad on the internet. I have never even went to the dark web with the onion protocol. Im just not interested in the shit i would find there.
I use privacy tools because thats what I believe should be default. People deserve their privacy. No company or government actually have the moral right to take it away. They are supposed to be elected by the people to work FOR US. That part is just forgotten now.
You can use and support Tor! It’s easy with a bootable version of Tails, I use it to access Proton Mail since they make their regular services also available on an onion site (the link is on their regular website).
It is never a requirement to perform 100% of all “Privacy best practices” 24 hours a day and 7 days a week with perfect execution. Simply put, nobody has that level of threat on average unless they are someone like Snowden, a Journalist covering a story, or are working as an intelligence agent.
It is best to assess your threat level and choose Privacy preserving techniques and tools according to what best suits your life and situation first. Don’t overdo it, don’t try to achieve perfect privacy, don’t try to keep up with the metaphorical Joneses. There will always be new threats to your privacy to assess; and you shouldn’t be ignorant of them; but you also should not ever let that growing list of threats overwhelm you.
If you need to take time to stop reading privacy news…do so. Just like regular world and national news; it can put you in a state of constant panic. Manage your mental health and state first before you ever allow yourself to address your privacy issues at hand.
Once your mental state is clear and your focus is sharp; focus specifically on little things you can easily do to protect your privacy. Maybe make sure you have a VPN set up or ensure you go over critical privacy settings on your devices to ensure none have changed or shifted since you last visited them. Then consider other small things you can do; if you can say, for example, choose a new email provider, then do so. If not, pick a new thing to address and move on. Do not make managing your privacy a chore if you can possibly help it. Take improving it one step at a time, take breaks for your sanity and make sure you don’t overdo it all at once.
Cannabis and alcohol mostly
“I do a lot of dangerous and risky **** on the internet”
Well, you’ve already failed. You just admitted on an open forum accessible by everyone that you’re clearly involved in something.
This is not a failure. I did not disclose what I did to anyone and it is not like ringpop is my real name
If there’s one thing I know for sure, anonymity on the internet does not exist. Everything & everyone is trackable.
I mainly protect my company secrets by encrypting it and hope for the best. Else, it’s just the normal stuff, that is nobody else’s business. But then, i am glad that i am old and likely won’t have to live in a dystopian place like this world seems to be going towards.
The kind of “privacy” you get by using a VPN or avoiding Facebook tracking your web browsing is absolutely not appropriate for using against a threat model that includes three-letter agencies or even, frankly, the local cops. They can just, like, come to your house when you aren’t there and bug it. Point a camera at your screen, station a dude in the closet, replace the computer with a cunningly painted cardboard replica of the computer which is a spy, etc. Or from the other end, they simply exploit a zero-day in every one of your seven proxies, because they care enough about catching you to burn them.
Sometimes the threat model says you just lose and you can’t actually get what you want by using computers, because you have an information technology hammer and a fundamentally legal or political problem.
If you think the police are actually on to your crimes, stop doing those crimes! If the crimes needed doing for some reason, someone else less likely to be known to the police will probably do them instead, and you can surely find less-crimey ways to further whatever they were meant to accomplish. If you’re in it for yourself for some sort of personal gain, quit while you’re ahead.
If you think you’re drastically overestimating the likelihood that the police are after you for your crimes, and it is affecting your ability to function, that’s definitely a problem for your therapist. Presumably one who doesn’t insist you explain your various crimes to them in detail, a thing which your lawyer (which you also maybe need?) might have concerns about.
Because I’m a fan of my fucking rights and I’ll defend it against an authoritarian government. I don’t need to be a terrorist to value free speech.
It’s hard, but by using good tools, writing out my privacy model, being informed. It will not necessarily make you calm about the current state of everything but at least be knowledgeable about how good your entire environment is.
I don’t really have anything to hide… but I still believe in a fundamental right to privacy and personal agency. For a lot of people, these tools keep them alive (ex. Targeted minorities in oppressive regimes etc).
But for me, this is more of an academic exercise - I find it interesting, and the things I learn can be shared with others who need them more.
If your activities are affecting your ability to sleep and have peace of mind, my only advice is to stop.
Why are you doing sketchy things on the internet?
If your own conscience is haunting you, that’s a good signal for you to fix your behavior so you can have a clear conscience and you won’t need to worry about the law closing in on you. What a horrible existence that must be.
User LemmyKnowsBest publicly claims that all laws are just, fair, and reasonable.
Hey I’m technically doing something illegal right now that I do every day all day long and IDGAF because the law regarding this thing is stupid & oppressive & I’m not hurting myself or anyone else.
But WTF is OP doing on the internet that makes him constantly worried the SWAT Team is gonna be banging down his door? That’s not normal.
To remain free (for good reasons or not btw).
But at the end the goal is to protect the freedom for everyone and give everyone a chance to live without interruptions by any entity that wants to regulate that
The Onion Router, for internet stuff, or a (reliable and well reputed) VPN. But you have an entire community of people more specialised than me for how to not get noticed on internet anyways. Stays informed on the world, and reduce risky things, for you to get some better sleep. Dunno what businesses you do, but your priority is to stop depending on them. Hiding everything you do is just like putting yourself under the spotlight.
A physical diary that only you knows about, to free yourself from your stressful thoughts and ideas, (with a lighter always nearby) will ease a lot. It works very well for me.
All evenings, take 10 mins of your free time to yell the hell out of your mood in your pillow (gotta think about neighbors). Do sports, or things of your interests. Works too.
Oh and you shouldn’t post things implying that much that you are doing suspicious things, anywhere on internet. Best irl stuff about you to talk about on corporate internet is none, even mundane things like your country. Illegal things must be done irl the good old way.
Not being prone to paranoia, as unhelpful as that is
I’m also a realist, which keeps my expectations in check.
Remember that you are one person. Nobody in government censorship or reconnaissance of the public cares about you enough to spy or hack you. You alone aren’t worth the effort or resources.
Remember to play. Go outside for a walk, meditate, consume entertaining non-toxic, non-fiction media, have sex or masturbate. All work and no play makes Ringpop a dull person.
Not much there for me. 99% is worn-out tropes or boring telenovela and gameshows. The beauty of drawn media is, that experiments can be published on a budget.
Threath model analysis. I do enough to not be in the bycatch as more than a IP (no cloud & social media, encrypted private communication, terminating cloud services after use) and low profile enough to not be targeted directly.
Me, too. What’s wrong with us?
I think the less stressful approach is limiting Internet activity altogether rather than obsessing about whether or not what I’m up to is hidden well enough. For example, you could write your own software. I, myself, obsess about whether or not my python scripts actually work instead of inveigling my friends to encrypt everything they put in the Cloud. See, for example:
I’m not sure about your situation. But I’d recommended setting up Buskill on your laptop/pc it can wipe the luks slots on your drive making it completely unreadable all by just disconnecting a USB (this could be magnetic so if they pull you it’ll get auto triggered) but then again this is only useful if you live in somewhat free country where cops can’t torture you to decrypt/restore your data.
i don’t know why you need extreme privacy. But what I can tell you is it’s OK you can take a break from whatever you are doing that needs this lvl of privacy.
Reporting on bad regime, they’ll still be doing bad stuff once you come back from a break.
Privacy is like swimming in an endless sea: Oftentimes you find yourself barely treading water; often more you’re choking, trying to find your balance and your breath. Never forget that you spent your whole life drowning until you decided to swim, though.
Very well said
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