Cloud storage solutions with Linux
from Gloomy@mander.xyz to privacy@lemmy.ml on 25 Jun 15:26
https://mander.xyz/post/32790858

I am trying to get away from Google and am looking for a decent cloud service that’s integrated well into Linux, either by itself or by using rclone.

I tried Proton drive, but it is laggy and overall not very good.

I just need storage, nothing fancy. Self hosting is not an option tough, at this time.

EDIT: I don’t want to write the same answer 15 times, so I’ll just put this here: Thanks a lot for the recommendations to all of you! I’ve got some reading up to do now :-)

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plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org on 26 Jun 09:02 next collapse

Jottacloud is pretty good. They have a Linux CLI too

bacon_pdp@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 16:14 next collapse

The question of how much Data produces different recommendations. For example if over 5TB rsync.net

Jumuta@sh.itjust.works on 25 Jun 16:58 next collapse

you could also use some s3 object storage service, backblaze’s one is $6/TB/month

bacon_pdp@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 17:28 collapse

Yeah but S3 egress fees are a kick in the face if you need to recover.

Wasabi is also an option

timlyo@lemmy.ml on 26 Jun 08:45 collapse

R2 doesn’t charge egress fees, not sure how the price compares otherwise though.

rumba@lemmy.zip on 25 Jun 16:49 collapse

Man $500 a month for 50TB.

For less than that, I could buy 5x10TB hard drives every two months. Sure there’s value in the hosting and internet, but why is it so damned expensive compared to the price of hosting it?

slackness@lemmy.ml on 26 Jun 14:47 collapse

You’re paying for redundancies in different regions, migrations, backups, upgrades, maintenance, generally not having to worry about losing your data. The storage costs nothing.

FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi on 25 Jun 16:26 next collapse

I’m using filen.io. E2ee and zero knowledge service from Germany. Their desktop client just works.

Libb@jlai.lu on 25 Jun 17:28 next collapse

I use it too, as well as Infomaniak KDrive (not E2EE)

Ephemeral@feddit.org on 25 Jun 17:34 collapse

E2EE is irrelevant if you encrypt your files before uploading them. This can either be done with a tool like Veracrypt or Cryptomator but a simple locked .7z file is also easy to use. I just store a locked folder in my Filen account and update it every month or so to keep everything up to date.

Libb@jlai.lu on 25 Jun 20:56 collapse

This is not irrelevant if you just don’t want to bother with encrypting them or with having to deal with a locked folder (I think I understand what that would be, but I’m not sure). Filen does encrypt the folder(s) I tell it to encrypt and sync them to its cloud storage. I have nothing to manage once I’ve setup the sync(s) I need. Different solutions for different needs… and different types of users ;)

Ephemeral@feddit.org on 25 Jun 23:31 collapse

Sure but you still have to believe and trust Filen that they are actually encrypting your files without having backdoors or vulnerabilities. If you encrypt files yourself they can’t do anything with your files. The supposed encryption of the cloud storage provider is a nice extra layer but not a requirement.

You can just as well sync a locked zip file as long as you create a new one in a synced folder. Cloud storage is a backup to me, I don’t have to access it unless my 2 local storages were to fail.

Depends what you use cloud storage for obviously.

Libb@jlai.lu on 26 Jun 09:15 collapse

Sure but you still have to believe and trust Filen

Obviously, like I must trust anyone involved in the whole process of me using a computer/phone to do anything. From the maker of my device (that it doesn’t contain some spyware out of the factory, I remember an issue like that with Lenovo and another with Sony), to the app I use but also my ISP (that in France is legally required to keep all my online activities for a few years, btw) but also the maker (and the seller) of my keyboard hoping that they too did not add some spyware or keylogger.

As a matter of fact, one of the reasons I moved a lot of my activities offline is me realizing my inability to trust (corporate-owned) digital tools to actually respect my privacy. The simplest solution for me was to remove as much as possible of that tech from my workflow ;)

Depends what you use cloud storage for obviously.

Indeed.

Kolgeirr@sh.itjust.works on 28 Jun 12:47 collapse

Same, filen is great and their client is the best I’ve used, being able to set up individual syncs with one-way backups is fantastic.

Ulrich@feddit.org on 25 Jun 16:06 next collapse

Can you elaborate on why “self hosting is not an option”? Not all self-hosting requires Docker and terminal and all of that. You can use SyncThing which just turns all your existing devices into “the cloud” with an app. If you leave any of those devices turned on and connected it becomes a “server”.

Gloomy@mander.xyz on 26 Jun 10:22 next collapse

Can you elaborate on why “self hosting is not an option”?

I don’t feel that I have the skill to set a server up, but what you describe does sound interesting and I will look into it.

I also don’t have hardware I could just use and am not in the position to spend a lot of money all at once.

N0x0n@lemmy.ml on 25 Jun 16:26 collapse

Syncthing is not a cloud solution though… Rather a sync solution. What’s the difference? If you delete the file on 1 device it gets deleted on every device who shares the directory…

While a Cloud solution, your file is on a central server and you can download/delete that file on your device without affecting the server.

Cloud service ≠ Sync service but have a similar purpose.

Edit: And doin’ 1 way sync is still not a cloud service !

Ulrich@feddit.org on 25 Jun 16:28 collapse

What’s the difference? If you delete the file on 1 device it gets deleted on every device who shares the directory…

  1. That’s not correct. SyncThing has versioning
  2. That’s not a necessary component of “the cloud”.

Let OP answer the question, please.

And doin’ 1 way sync is still not a cloud service !

It’s not 1 way sync. Please look up what you’re talking about before speaking.

N0x0n@lemmy.ml on 28 Jun 11:22 collapse

It’s not 1 way sync. Please look up what you’re talking about before speaking.

Yeah it’s not, however you can configure syncthing as a 1way sync solution and I was emphasizing that this still isn’t a cloud solution.

Don’t get me wrong, syncthing is great and I use it everyday, but syncthing is not a cloud solution.

jeena@piefed.jeena.net on 25 Jun 15:48 next collapse

I use sycthing and it'setup and forget.

rumba@lemmy.zip on 25 Jun 16:40 collapse

Syncthing has been amazing. The downside is that you need the space to do the whole share replica on each box. Of course, that just makes me be a better steward of my own data archival.

Mosfar@sh.itjust.works on 25 Jun 19:28 collapse

You can put a share send only and another receive only

slackness@lemmy.ml on 26 Jun 14:45 next collapse

That doesn’t address the original point which is whatever’s shared has to exist on all machines.

Either way, you would need to backup your data if you were self hosting Nextcloud or friends so you do need multiple copies of it anyway.

trk@aussie.zone on 27 Jun 13:44 collapse

The downside of doing this is that the shares always show out of sync in the UI.

For someone who likes everything showing green, those purple warnings hurt my soul

INeedMana@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 16:24 next collapse

I’ve been using pcloud. You can choose for the data to be hosted in EU. Doesn’t have a client but works well with rclone (and Round Sync on Android). And from time to time they offer “lifetime” package - no subscription

Zectivi@sh.itjust.works on 25 Jun 17:18 collapse

I have a pCloud client running on my EndeavourOS system. I think it may be an appimage, but it updates no problem when they release one. Releases page: www.pcloud.com/release-notes/linux.html

INeedMana@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 17:38 collapse

Ah. Then it must have not fit my use-case at the time. I don’t remember

Can you define which remote dir should be synced where? That might have been my issue

Zectivi@sh.itjust.works on 25 Jun 21:03 collapse

I can’t recall if that can be done, but it doesn’t sound familiar. I’ll look later and update if I see anything like that.

UPDATE: There is a “Sync” config item that allows you to define a Local Folder and a corresponding pCloud Drive Folder. It looks like you can define a local folder, but then the ‘pCloud folder’ is any folder you have in your pCloud drive, existing or new. Could that be what you’re looking for?

INeedMana@lemmy.world on 27 Jun 09:46 collapse

That’s definitely what my scripts, that I moved to using, do. Maybe the feature was missing back then

ratatouille@feddit.org on 29 Jun 19:23 collapse

rclone with the integrated file encryption and one of the supported Provider.