Demand the Data: What’s Really Going Viral? | Mozilla Foundation (www.mozillafoundation.org)
from gi1242@lemmy.world to privacy@lemmy.ml on 27 Nov 12:45
https://lemmy.world/post/39386490

We have no idea what content is most viral on YouTube, Meta, TikTok, LinkedIn, or X – because they refuse to share basic data.

On the DSA’s Birthday (Oct 4th) we’ve led a “mass data access request” along with @mozilla and DSA40 Data Access Collaboratory, where a series of ~20 orgs requested daily data on their top 1,000 most-viewed posts in EU Member States. Every single one refused.

Join us in demanding platform transparency.

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solrize@lemmy.ml on 27 Nov 15:52 next collapse

Not privacy and tbh kind of creepy.

blackbrook@mander.xyz on 27 Nov 18:29 next collapse

On the one hand them refusing to share this data is very problematic, on the other hand what the most viewed posts are is determined by their algorithm, and so a distortion of what is “popular”. Sharing and giving users control over those algorithms is the more important issue that should be receiving focus.

I want to predict that they end up to acquiescing to the demand for “most viewed” data so they can pretend to be all responsible. Seems like a distraction.

skarn@discuss.tchncs.de on 28 Nov 01:40 collapse

I mean, they’re not going to let you take a look at the algorithms of the timelines.

Knowing what are the top posts allows us at least to know what those algorithm are pushing. It’s not much, but it’s the bare minimum of accountability.

catbum@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 02:14 collapse

My guess is they don’t want data scientist types to find trends pointing to the possible “moderation” of viral posts of a certain political potency, not to make them more popular, but to suppress or wholly censor something impactful from being spread further. Censorship. I mean censorship.

It just wouldn’t surprise me if posts that started being shared at an explosive rate for insert highly-affecting thing here were quietly “turned off” for many an audience’s algorithm at some point by meddlesome human hands. The public having this data could reveal that or other types of manipulation when compared to other platforms, in aggregate, etc.

But idk, not a data doctor

eleijeep@piefed.social on 27 Nov 22:12 collapse

This is what Mozilla Foundation thinks is important?

Akip@discuss.tchncs.de on 28 Nov 00:39 collapse

I get your frustration with recent mozilla actions, but I don’t think this one deserves it. For one your point seems like whataboutism. Secondly If you heard about Cambridge analytica it should be clear how much those algorithms shape our lives. It would be good to know for me if those algorithms are really just boring algorithms or if they are shaped by some political or company agenda.

Auli@lemmy.ca on 28 Nov 22:14 collapse

Well that is easy it is the second one. There is no boring algorithm.

Akip@discuss.tchncs.de on 29 Nov 07:13 collapse

And you have data to prove that?