Is this an ALPR?
from Dust0741@lemmy.world to privacy@lemmy.ml on 05 Nov 21:27
https://lemmy.world/post/38381613

cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/38375389

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FauxLiving@lemmy.world on 05 Nov 21:39 next collapse

That’s a surveillance camera, it can be remotely aimed.

It may read license plates too but it’s not the mass produced ALPR that’s used by Flock and co. Likely it is part of the the building’s security system.

infinitevalence@discuss.online on 05 Nov 21:43 next collapse

No, its a normal PTZ Security camera.

AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social on 05 Nov 23:30 collapse

Looks like a Flock Condor PTZ to me. Not just any PTZ camera, (has LPR and people-tracking tech built-in) though the design and intent is similar. Commonly installed around crosswalks and parks where changing the point of view could sometimes be necessary to observe specific gatherings/incidents, rather than the ones Flock also sells that stay mounted in a fixed point on main roads.

Notice the exact same shape of the white dome above the camera ball, the same visible “rail” lines on the ball, how there’s an identically-sized and shaped plate covering the black rectangle on the base in OP’s second photo that I’ve added below as well, and how it has the same size and width mounting bracket, with identical screw mounts.

<img alt="image" src="https://media.piefed.social/posts/ET/0I/ET0I49Y9vmrDRuu.png">

infinitevalence@discuss.online on 06 Nov 00:25 next collapse

Could be I would bet they OEM an existing design. That happens all the time with security cameras.

Zoot@reddthat.com on 06 Nov 01:07 next collapse

Yep, that mount specifically is extremely common for a lot of label slapper companies. Like they all look like that haha. Hex bolts to make it easier to attach, the pendulum mount, the cap, set screws and all.

Never seen a flock ptz camera myself so I guess I can’t say much about that specifically.

AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social on 06 Nov 01:13 collapse

I couldn’t find any other cameras that have all the same physical characteristics that weren’t just pictures either on Flock’s website, or from other sites talking about Flock cameras.

I’m not entirely opposed to the idea that they’re using an existing design, but it seems more likely to me that they simply had one custom-made, especially considering the fact that they have very specific needs, such as the ability to accurately read a license plate on a car, which they claim they can do while it’s going 100mph, at 75ft away, both day or night, or the fact that their cameras have cellular connections built-in, which would require the existing design to also have a slot for a SIM card, or ability to install an eSIM.

Again, not saying it’s impossible, but I’d consider it unlikely.

Dust0741@lemmy.world on 06 Nov 14:42 collapse

Wow thanks for this!

I’ll go back sometime with my DSLR. I’ll be able to read the stickers and such then and get the final answer

AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social on 06 Nov 19:09 collapse

The yellow stickers are also present in some Flock marketing materials, so I’d definitely recommend getting a good shot of the sticker.

<img alt="image" src="https://media.piefed.social/posts/lx/s9/lxs941QXcYk88YQ.png">

And if it does seem to be a Flock camera, add it to DeFlock! (don’t worry about if the images on the site to make sure it’s an ALPR don’t include one from Flock that looks like that, they only have images for two of Flock’s fixed camera systems, the Flex LPR, and the Standard LPR, but Flock has other designs.)

Dust0741@lemmy.world on 20 Nov 19:38 collapse

Confirmed!!! It is a flock

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/768fd7b2-e319-4d96-82de-ba8fda8e2263.jpeg">

AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social on 20 Nov 21:51 collapse

That’s a better photo of it than their own marketing photos 😂

Glad you could confirm its identity!

Dust0741@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 00:01 collapse

Oops. It was some nice lighting plus DSLR so it ended up looking too good haha.

Zoot@reddthat.com on 05 Nov 22:33 next collapse

It reminds me of a pelco or scw ptz ball camera. Likely does have an AI integration, but that would likely be NVR dependant and what system its plugged into.

On its own all it does is motion enabled tracking, routes, or stationary recording depending on how the business has it set up.

Like others have said, not at all like the typical flock setup. Which will generally be attached to a random pole with solar. They have a more narrow view generally and look more like a bullet style camera. Sometimes with a IR Light to the side of it depending on the area.

electric_nan@lemmy.ml on 06 Nov 05:58 collapse

smesh