Oh fuck off Meta
from Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de to privacy@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 10:07
https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/51498486

I’m gonna delete the account after selling my Quest 2 for the Steam Frame

#privacy

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vk6flab@lemmy.radio on 25 Dec 10:10 next collapse

1/1/1

emotional_soup_88@programming.dev on 25 Dec 10:13 next collapse

I went as far as scanning my passport for these @ssholes and they still banned me 😂 to this day I have no clue why

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 11:03 collapse

Because you’re nothing to them

PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space on 25 Dec 19:01 collapse

People just submitted it.
I don’t know why.
They “trust me”
Dumb fucks

GreenShimada@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 10:20 next collapse

I always use the birthday of a friend of mine. That way if they if I have to validate something in the future, I’ve used a consistent date.

Gumus@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Dec 12:51 next collapse

1.1.1970 is consistent and easy to remember (at least for nerds like me)

taco@anarchist.nexus on 25 Dec 15:14 collapse

I’ve been using 6/9/1969 since I was 11 using the same rationale and haven’t found a compelling reason to change.

tiramichu@sh.itjust.works on 25 Dec 10:26 next collapse

I backed the original Oculus Rift, and felt massively betrayed when they sold to Meta. :(

For years since I’ve been waiting for A VR solution that plays nice with Linux and is at least somewhat privacy-respecting, and I have been absolutely unwilling to buy a Quest device or anything else. I want to play VR but I’m not willing to sell my soul for it. So it’s been an unhappy but conscious boycott from me.

I too then am super looking forward to the Steam Frame because it’s the device I need to get back into VR and feel happy and excited about it, rather than disgusted.

bulwark@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 11:34 next collapse

Palmer Lucky turning into a Bond villain wasn’t exactly something I expected when I first saw him pushing the original Kickstarter Oculus

domi@lemmy.secnd.me on 25 Dec 13:35 next collapse

Same, still got the devkit 1 and 2 in my cellar.

Really looking forward to the Steam Frame to finally get standalone VR without Meta involvement.

echodot@feddit.uk on 25 Dec 18:45 collapse

Have they sent out Dev kits yet? I know a game dev who is making a VR game on steam and he’s had nothing but radio silence from valve.

domi@lemmy.secnd.me on 26 Dec 12:17 collapse

Haven’t heard anything yet.

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 25 Dec 13:50 next collapse

Steam creator is also a Linux fan boy btw

brownmustardminion@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 15:11 collapse

This has been such a depressing trend over the last few decades.

Fresh bright-eyed startup with a passionate creator develops some interesting and innovative product.

Gets bought out by FAANG, turns to shit and stops working properly or gets discontinued, and primarily functions as a spyware device.

tiramichu@sh.itjust.works on 25 Dec 15:27 next collapse

That makes it sound like these startups have no choice in the matter. The funny thing is, you don’t have to sell your company to an enormous evil corporation if you don’t want to.

Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Dec 16:38 next collapse

In capitalism you do. Society demands it.

echodot@feddit.uk on 25 Dec 18:44 collapse

No, not really. But if you don’t sell you don’t get a lot of money and mostly that’s what people want, that’s why the startup exists.

PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 17:15 next collapse

Depends on who your initial investors are and the contract you signed with them. They can and will force a sale if their RoI isn’t met in a specific time-frame, or if the buyout price reaches a certain valuation.

brownmustardminion@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 19:14 collapse

Partly true but Amazon has been known to make dupes of a product and sell it at a loss to drive the competitor out of business. I’m sure that threat lingers in some peoples’ minds.

They probably also promise the management team “you’ll still have creative control after we buy you”. Then turn around and replace each of them one by one

jjlinux@lemmy.zip on 26 Dec 12:50 collapse

Yeah, I worked for an amazing company for 13 years, a big corporation bought it, and now I have my own business and my soul back. Same shit, “you’ll still have full operating control” and then they moved everything to India.

artyom@piefed.social on 25 Dec 18:20 collapse

That’s just the inevitable endgame in a capitalistic society. Most startups’ end goals at inception are to sell out to a corporation.

oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Dec 06:21 next collapse

I think the cure is identifying that it’s all bullshit every time (especially nowadays!) and so not putting any hope in their tech any more. See it for what it is, just another corporate distraction among infinity of such.

I guess this is how I arrived at calling myself an “anti-technology technologist”, because new technology is so reliably the promise that never delivers, an exercise in frustration, disappointment and being ripped-off for shit I don’t even need. Of course I still enjoy tech things but I’m so fuckin over any “next big thing” because it’s invariably such hype, and I’m middle aged and so wasn’t born yesterday like I used to be.

I’d rather be staring at the hills and the river, VR got nothing compared to magic mushrooms anyway so I just don’t care for it. Gimme a joint, a musical instrument and a couple of friends over that, any day! I don’t want to inhabit virtual (or any) corporate spaces even for money, it has nothing at all that I want, and very many things I don’t want.

All encounters with corporations are designed to sap our life-force and pump up their stock prices. Best to limit exposure!

artyom@piefed.social on 26 Dec 06:58 next collapse

I think the cure is identifying that it’s all bullshit every time

I mean that’s great but it doesn’t stop everyone else from falling for it, and you having to pay the price accordingly.

I guess this is how I arrived at calling myself an “anti-technology technologist”

I just call myself a Luddite at this point. Any technology developed outside of FOSS just completely disinterests me. Everything else is assumed to be malware.

I got into cycling a few years’ back. But of course technology is coming for bicycles too and all my riding buddies are just so amped about it and can’t understand why I want absolutely nothing to do with it.

utopiah@lemmy.ml on 27 Dec 08:13 collapse

technology is coming for bicycles too

Went from e-bike to fixie and ironically enough this isn’t a joke. I’m happier and healthier now.

utopiah@lemmy.ml on 27 Dec 08:12 collapse

Is also dangerous to associate emerging technology with big tech, sure they make some and sell some at tempting discounted prices BUT they are not the only ones and when aiming so you leave then an open field.

oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Dec 19:15 collapse

Yes I guess I should say I’m hugely pro Open Source tech but absolutely disillusioned with corporate tech. Which makes me dislike the majority of tech around.

DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 15:26 next collapse

Fortunately, GabeN shows no interest in selling Valve to anyone.

artyom@piefed.social on 26 Dec 17:47 collapse

Yeah they’re largely an anomaly in that regard.

boonhet@sopuli.xyz on 26 Dec 21:30 collapse

Most people’s goals are to not have to work for a living. Selling a successful startup allows for that to happen. Unfortunately, the startup needs to start making money after someone pays a lot of money for it, and we all know what happens next.

nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de on 25 Dec 10:54 next collapse

It’s infuriating, really.

Add 1 Jan 1970.

not_me@piefed.social on 25 Dec 10:59 next collapse

 Unix/Epoch time👌

SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social on 25 Dec 13:00 next collapse

At least be exact! 1970-01-01T00:00:00.000Z.

Or if they allow it, just 0

Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 03:26 collapse

I just pick random shit. Pretty sure Steam thinks I’m 113 years old.

Admittedly this did backfire once when a company wanted my birthday to verify my ID to unlock an account. They were surprised I lied and I was surprised people don’t.

narr1@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 10:58 next collapse

Thankfully I haven’t had to use any Meta products for a while now, and as far as Alphabet is considered I’ll turn 126 years old on 01/01/2026 and live where my country’s parliament building is. Because fuck them, that’s why.

not_me@piefed.social on 25 Dec 11:00 next collapse

No thanks ,I’m gone🖕

scottmeme@sh.itjust.works on 25 Dec 11:29 next collapse

First they forced giving phone number, now DoB…

Btw they purged me for not providing them my phone number.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip on 25 Dec 11:36 next collapse

I mean, they, really want that data, so just give them that (random) data.

Edit: if they verify, use date of friend/family member. Scramble that data.

birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 25 Dec 11:56 collapse

Why use that data? Just put it to Jan 1 1900, like everyone else on porn sites.

roserose56@lemmy.zip on 25 Dec 11:41 next collapse

Hahahahahahaha

libre_warrior@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 11:58 next collapse

They just really want to get to know you.

wuffah@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 12:10 next collapse

I’m glad that John Carmack is rich and intellectually stimulated, but watching him be wasted building Metaverse VR was like trying to remove my own teeth with a pair of pliers.

Hadriscus@jlai.lu on 25 Dec 12:27 next collapse

yup. absolute waste of a Carmack right there

Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Dec 17:42 collapse

was like trying to remove my own teeth with a pair of pliers.

That’s oddly specific. Did you try that?

Edit: English is not my main language, and I did not think over the meaning of “pliers”.

Nelots@piefed.zip on 25 Dec 18:13 collapse

Come on now, I think everyone’s tried the ol’ teeth-with-pliers trick at least once in their life.

DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 12:18 next collapse

Time to delete your Facebook.

Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de on 25 Dec 13:22 next collapse

I deleted my Facebook two years or so ago already

NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip on 25 Dec 13:37 collapse

That’s an easy.

Getting people to stop using Instagram and whatsapp is so much harder.

Fuck Instagram. Meta aside, any site that requires a data harvesting account just to view is never worth going to.

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 25 Dec 13:49 collapse

WhatsApp is the hardest.. People are still using it around me.. And they just assume I use whatsapp as well.

NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 23:37 collapse

Whatsapp is the one i still feel pressure to almost use even though i deleted fb over 5 years ago. Whenever somebody travels out of country I get an invite to whatsapp that I turn down.

sem@piefed.blahaj.zone on 25 Dec 12:32 next collapse

Wtf is a meta horizon

artyom@piefed.social on 25 Dec 18:18 collapse

I don’t think anyone really knows.

pineapple@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 13:23 next collapse

Bruh im looking at buying a used quest 2 because they offer such a compelling value. But seriously do I have to make an account just to use the damn thing? What if I only use it teathered to my pc?

maniclucky@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 13:30 next collapse

I have one that I used to use with my PC (switched to linux and it’s a pain in the ass to do is why I stopped). I would still have to log in to start the app to hook to my PC.

artyom@piefed.social on 25 Dec 18:17 collapse

Yes. It’s much like Android, iOS and Windows where you are the product so you can’t do literally anything without an account.

XTL@sopuli.xyz on 26 Dec 21:30 collapse

Basically bs when it comes to Android. Android will run offline, with no account, degoogled, fully non-gms, or all of the above. As well as inside and outside containers, emulators and virtual machines.

(Some devices and vendors may lead to less choice than others.)

artyom@piefed.social on 26 Dec 22:49 collapse

Yes, if you hack it. No one distributes it that way. You’re being needlessly pedantic.

RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works on 25 Dec 13:36 next collapse

I always enter November 5 1984 for any site that needs it.

kazerniel@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 15:19 next collapse

I love that idea!

RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works on 26 Dec 01:57 collapse

Thanks.

leadore@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 19:14 collapse

Why that date? Is it from the book 1984?

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 25 Dec 21:08 next collapse

Might be a reference to Guy Fawkes?

leadore@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 21:31 collapse

Oh, I guess it could be a combination of that and the dystopian novel.

RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works on 26 Dec 01:56 collapse

November 5 is a reference to Guy Fawkes.

1984 is a nod to the book.

leadore@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 05:40 collapse

Thanks :)

jerkface@lemmy.ca on 25 Dec 13:38 next collapse

I feel like posting about Facebook on /c/Privacy is like posting a photo of the dictionary definition of surveillance. Like, YEAH. WE KNOW.

Skunk@jlai.lu on 25 Dec 13:50 collapse

Because it is not a post about Facebook but about the VR Headset Quest 2 and/or 3.

Sadly, the Meta Quest is kind of the best deal in the PC VR world.

jerkface@lemmy.ca on 25 Dec 14:16 next collapse

A difference without distinction.

baggachipz@sh.itjust.works on 25 Dec 14:36 next collapse

There’s a reason it’s the cheapest. You pay with your privacy.

artyom@piefed.social on 25 Dec 18:16 next collapse

Well there is that but there’s also that they’re just trying to make the Metaverse happen, so to speak. Get as many people as possible onboarded and using the product and making it mainstream before recouping losses. Fortunately that’s a stupid idea with no practical value and it seems they’re starting to realize that so they’ve reallocated the budget to the next stupid thing they’re trying to make happen with no practical value.

P00ptart@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 21:12 collapse

It’s more than that. It’s a hostile business move to corner the market and kill off other brands, they absolutely had the money to accomplish this. The brand image? They failed that speech check. Beyond that, there simply isn’t enough interest in VR to make a killing off of a monopoly even if they had one.

artyom@piefed.social on 25 Dec 21:19 collapse

It’s a hostile business move to corner the market and kill off other brands

Huh? How do you figure that?

The brand image? They failed that speech check.

What?

there simply isn’t enough interest in VR to make a killing off of a monopoly even if they had one

You and I know that but it didn’t stop Fuckerberg from sinking tens of billions of dollars into it.

P00ptart@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 11:01 next collapse

A) sell at a loss to take smaller players off the board because they can’t compete at those prices. Because they can’t afford to sell at a loss.

B) speech check is an RPG saying. Basically they’re trying to fool the user but the users didn’t fall for it.

C) correct. He made a mistake thinking he could get people to use VR on a level like WALL-E or ready player one. He tried to make one dystopia happen and failed because we’re not quite at the level of desperation that we need or can acceptably make VR vacations a viable product.

[deleted] on 26 Dec 14:00 collapse

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LordKitsuna@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 23:30 collapse

Yup, i paid my $1,000 for my index and it was the best purchase I ever made love that thing. I’m definitely getting a steam frame as well not because I don’t love my index anymore but it would be nice to have something that is a little more flexible with the space.

cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Dec 14:51 collapse

It is about Facebook. Facebook makes the Meta Quest. It’s a Facebook product. Just like Threads, Instagram, and WhatsApp are. And those Meta glasses that are ugly AF.

Skunk@jlai.lu on 25 Dec 15:17 collapse

Officially it is Meta. Facebook is owned by Meta but the Quest headset is not a Facebook product. I get it, it’s easier to say Facebook for everything owned by Zuk, like saying Google for Youtube instead of Alphabet.

But it is not precise nor true and plenty of comments here are saying “just leave Facebook” while OP did not post about Facebook nor having a social media account there.

And TBH, I think all VR headset are kinda ugly, it’s either big rectangle brick on your head or big round brick on your head.

gustofwind@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 15:22 next collapse

This is super silly. They changed the technical arrangements of the company names, meta is still Facebook

Facebook is meta, nitpicking this point is absurd

Edit: I’d like to add that obfuscating Facebook/zucc from other products is literally the point of the rebranding and OP is suffering from exactly that, making whoever’s point im arguing with even more dangerous and dumb

artyom@piefed.social on 25 Dec 18:12 collapse

It’s not silly at all. There’s a practical reason why they changed their name. Facebook is one of many products from the company. Facebook is Meta but Meta is not Facebook.

moonshadow@slrpnk.net on 25 Dec 19:32 next collapse

The “practical reason” is to distance themselves from the rep they’ve earned as slop-pushing privacy-invading child-abusing culture-destroying ghouls. Why would you go along with that?

artyom@piefed.social on 25 Dec 19:49 collapse

I mean, that would make sense if it actually achieved that. But it doesn’t, because that describes all of their products.

[deleted] on 26 Dec 14:01 collapse

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Evotech@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 16:33 next collapse

Head in sand levels of cope

Nelots@piefed.zip on 25 Dec 18:19 next collapse

I believe they were talking about meta’s literal smart glasses being ugly, not their VR headsets. They look really silly, the frame is way too thick.

I actually think the Quests are some of the better looking headsets.

Zink@programming.dev on 25 Dec 18:55 next collapse

I think it’s pretty heavily implied that people are talking about a given tech giant’s entire ecosystem when they say de-google, delete Facebook, Fuck Nestle- I mean, fuck Apple, etc. lol

cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Dec 14:41 collapse

It’s all Facebook. Meta is a company made by Facebook, but it’s all Facebook, or it’s all Meta — same thing.

It might not have Facebook branding, but it’s a Facebook product, or a Meta product. Again, same thing.

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 25 Dec 13:48 next collapse

I deleted Facebook 12 years ago. Just join me on the fediverse like Mbin or Mastodon.

curious_dolphin@slrpnk.net on 25 Dec 15:06 next collapse

Do you do much buying and selling of used goods?

In my area, Facebook Marketplace is unparalleled, alternatives such as Craigslist don’t come close.

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 26 Dec 14:51 collapse

The Netherlands has marktplaats app for this. Our local app in our country. No fb needed.

artyom@piefed.social on 25 Dec 18:08 next collapse

Mastodon is pretty awful still. Microblogging in general is awful but Mastodon has some particularly (in my opinion) awful fundamental design decisions. I don’t want to hate on them, so I won’t discuss what those things are. I appreciate that it exists and hope it does see more adoption but it’s just not for me, and I don’t know that it ever will be.

Add to that that I’ve never spoken to a human IRL that even knows what it is, and it’s not because I don’t ask. And that makes social media pretty unsocial.

Facebook has a ridiculous number of things you can do with a single account. On fedi those things all require different accounts and require people to follow all those different accounts. Bonfire looks like it may be a potential solution for that in the future.

Not saying that Facebook is great, at all, but that fedi isn’t really a suitable alternative.

At the end of the day people obviously just don’t care enough about any of these problems and have no self-respect and I’ve just pretty much sequestered myself from society entirely.

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 26 Dec 14:51 collapse

Try my project Mbin.

dorkofeverything@lemmy.ml on 26 Dec 22:44 collapse

This is not my being snarky, but I bet you didn’t. I bet you “deleted it” and Facebook will happily reactivate it for you any time they want

So Zuck can boast about “hAvInG 3 bIllIoN uSeRs”

melroy@kbin.melroy.org on 26 Dec 23:31 collapse

true, you can't trust them.. so who knows.

PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world on 25 Dec 14:02 next collapse

That’s how you get fake credentials meta

Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 14:22 next collapse

Don’t they already have shadow profiles on all of us, even if we don’t use Facebook? I long ago figured that they’re able to get ahold of all the info they want on us without our consent. Is tracking our habits and relationships not enough? Even if the idea is to use this as age verification, I highly doubt Facebook’s as clueless as to not have a ballpark estimate on all of us by now. (Or did the introduction of AI break things so bad that they can no longer deduce the sort of data they want? Hey, I can dream.)

dan1101@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 14:54 next collapse

Facebook has a fake birthday for me and it’s never been a problem. It’s somewhat close to the real date but not the real date.

cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Dec 14:54 collapse

I’ve heard that, but I’ve searched for my name on Facebook and I never find anything about myself. My wife has a Facebook account, she has the app on her phone and tablet, and I’ve had cause to use it. Like she’ll tell me to go into her messages and get a recipe or something. I don’t read them, but we don’t keep secrets from each other. Anyway, I’ll be bored in a car ride and I’ll start looking up my coworkers, and laugh at the dumb shit they post (that could identify them/their location to strangers). Once in a while I’ll look myself up. I’m not a public figure, per se, but I do have imitators, so if you look my name up, first and last, a couple profiles will come up, but they have nothing to do with me and they don’t have any information that matches mine. I don’t know if those are the “shadow profiles” people talk about, but they are not a threat to me.

artyom@piefed.social on 25 Dec 18:10 collapse

I’ve heard that, but I’ve searched for my name on Facebook and I never find anything about myself

Yeah, you won’t. That’s why they’re called shadow profiles. But if one day you do sign up you’ll find Facebook already knows who all of your friends are and what your interests are, etc.

cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Dec 14:43 collapse

Interesting. So would it be better to not sign up at all and let it guess, or sign up and poison it with false information? I’m leaning toward the former.

UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 14:37 next collapse

4-20-1969

HeerlijkeDrop@thebrainbin.org on 25 Dec 15:31 collapse

1969-04-20

bhamlin@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 16:26 next collapse

20-04-1969

cl4p_tp@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Dec 17:29 next collapse

24-7-69

MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 20:34 next collapse

I swear once at 2nd grade I saw a doctor write a date like this and then did it only to get a long scolding by my teacher.

daddycool@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 07:15 collapse

I’ve seen that date mentioned before. What is the reference?

cl4p_tp@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Dec 07:58 collapse

Idk, just seemed funny 😅

daddycool@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 15:05 collapse

Oh, I see now. 69. 24/7.

MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 20:33 next collapse

The downvote?

Tomato666@lemmy.sdf.org on 26 Dec 13:12 collapse

Shitty formatting YYYYMMDD sorts chronologically and alphabetically

XTL@sopuli.xyz on 26 Dec 21:19 collapse

And with minor formatting is the actual ISO standard.

funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works on 25 Dec 21:11 collapse

ante diem xx Kalendas Maias de anno MMDCCXXII ab urbe condita

luciferofastora@feddit.org on 26 Dec 08:27 collapse

Where’d you get the XX from? I believe that, counting inclusively, it should be 12 days from Apr 20th to Mai 1st, so a.d. xii Kal. Maias

funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works on 26 Dec 16:57 collapse

you are correct. I did it for the gag, really, so most people could parse it.

69420@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 18:28 next collapse

Nice.

aizawaA02@lemmy.zip on 25 Dec 23:35 collapse

Ha ha very nice 😏

Mossheart@lemmy.ca on 25 Dec 22:34 collapse

I see ISO 8601, I upvote. Simple as.

kazerniel@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 15:17 next collapse

just set it to the January 1st of whichever year would make you 13 when you registered your account 😏 (I remember a platform deleting the account of someone when they, years later, revealed that they were under 13 when they registered)

hamid@crazypeople.online on 25 Dec 15:24 next collapse

Sorry about your gooner helmet

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today on 25 Dec 16:11 next collapse

Oh, goody! Maybe they’ll send me a present! Can I send them my address, too, so they know where to mail it? Meta is so nice!

dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Dec 18:56 next collapse

I just set mine to the beginning of time: Jan 01, 1970.

lando55@lemmy.zip on 25 Dec 20:02 collapse

Here lies dreadbeef 
1970-01-01 - 2038-01-19
01010010 01001001 01010000 
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works on 26 Dec 02:44 next collapse

peperony and chease

QuestionMark@lemmy.world on 01 Jan 07:21 collapse
nukeforyou@lemmy.zip on 25 Dec 19:12 next collapse

Just lie and make up a fake birthday

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 20:29 next collapse

And a fake name.

And a fake face.

bold_atlas@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 22:52 collapse

I don’t think they care if its your real birthday. They just want the data. Deny them the data, don’t use the service.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 10:49 collapse

Is garbage data worse than no data?

XTL@sopuli.xyz on 26 Dec 21:18 collapse

No. It means you’re still theirs and so badly you’ll even lie for them. And you don’t have the backbone to say no.

IndustryStandard@lemmy.world on 25 Dec 20:35 next collapse

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/21e56c31-b9ad-4094-a64d-366d1d4ad67a.jpeg">

n3on_Navigat0r@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Dec 17:11 collapse

I use December 31, 1969. Before Unix time.

Minimac@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 20:54 next collapse

wtf I deleted my account a year ago.

Zerush@lemmy.ml on 25 Dec 21:18 next collapse

I can’t even access any Fakebook crap, because I have blocked any Zuckerbot service since a long time. It don’t exist anymore for me in the web.

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/e94e31b7-dfa7-4ae3-b9b6-c07ab9d5f6a7.png">

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/9d526c6c-1e49-445c-a582-067c73fb3268.png">

onehundredsixtynine@sh.itjust.works on 26 Dec 09:28 collapse

What’s this extension?

Zerush@lemmy.ml on 26 Dec 15:26 collapse

Desktop app Portmaster

belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org on 25 Dec 23:29 next collapse

Delete your facebook accounts

[deleted] on 25 Dec 23:34 next collapse

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mmmac@lemmy.zip on 25 Dec 23:39 next collapse

Was unaware of the steam frame, thanks for putting them on my radar! Wonder how they’ll fare as a monitor replacement for dev work. I’ve seen people use the apple goggles for that because they’re pretty high res. Seemed pretty cool

uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 26 Dec 01:18 next collapse

December 7, 1941.

How to tell the techs you’re lying without telling the client

[deleted] on 26 Dec 05:55 next collapse

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thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Dec 07:27 collapse

1 jan 1970

[deleted] on 26 Dec 14:13 collapse

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FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 07:28 collapse

I do 1/1/1984 but also a good idea

Onsotumenh@discuss.tchncs.de on 26 Dec 06:45 next collapse

I’ve had an account under a nickname for coordinating dog meetups for ages. One day the account was suddenly blocked without prior notice and the only way they would let me in again is by giving them my ID, which would not help as the account was under my nick and I would never give them my ID anyway. They didn’t even let me delete that effing zombie account without identifying my name as real or even just change the Nick to something FB recognises as real name.

untorquer@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 08:16 collapse

They’ll ghost you even if you do give them everything they ask for. I can’t even make a new account under my real name or anything close to it anymore.

It sucks it’s the only realistic platform for discovering and getting info from interest groups in my area.

utopiah@lemmy.ml on 27 Dec 08:08 collapse

the only realistic platform

you know of, I don’t know where you live (nor do I want to) but alternatives do exist and if not you can self host some.

untorquer@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 08:36 collapse

Ah shit you’re right! They’re going to love having their social media on stevesbasement.social. So accessible to the general public!

utopiah@lemmy.ml on 28 Dec 16:42 collapse

Your sarcasm and learned helplessness help BigTech. I didn’t say it was easy, I said it was feasible.

untorquer@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 18:16 collapse

I’m not denying it’s technically feasible. I do deny learned helplessness. I have limited energy in life. Using it on making a change I’m not passionate about is a recipe for severe burnout. If i get more involved and find there’s sentiment towards a migration away from FB then I’d spend some energy on building and facilitating that. Barging in and making demands isn’t an effective way to build community. You can introduce ideas and develop them over time to show that it comes from care for and dedication to the org.

So yeah it’s unrealistic on the time scales I’m concerned with.

utopiah@lemmy.ml on 28 Dec 19:41 collapse

When you generalize your position about your available time and technical knowledge as the limiting factor for everybody you are not saying it’s impossible for you, you’re saying it’s impossible for anybody and everybody. That’s the problem. It’s like saying “I don’t like this food” versus “It tastes bad!”. For you they are equivalent, for others they are totally different. I’m not saying you, or anybody else, should learn about self-hosting (federated) social platforms then set some up, what I’m rejecting instead is giving up pre-emptively on the behalf of others because it’s giving power back to BigTech.

untorquer@lemmy.world on 28 Dec 22:31 collapse

I haven’t generalized anything beyond the extents of

  1. my area geographically
  2. The groups in my area which i interact with
  3. An individuals weight within a community over time.

I have not said it’s impossible to do for me and have made no claim on the ability for others to do it.

I’ll give you so much as i didn’t append “for me” or “in my situation” to every sentence, but the statements lay within the context provided in the rest of the post.

Etterra@discuss.online on 26 Dec 07:30 next collapse

A good opportunity to ditch Meta if you’re still using it for some reason.

JoeMontayna@lemmy.ml on 26 Dec 08:33 collapse

Can’t, need the Marketplace, unfortunately.

Quadhammer@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 15:34 collapse

MySpace marketplace?

VoxAliorum@lemmy.ml on 26 Dec 12:49 next collapse

on that note I finally deleted facebook. Goodbye meta!

cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Dec 22:13 collapse

Better late than never!

TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 13:08 next collapse

This is why tech giants want to dissolve governments and the regulatory agencies.

cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Dec 22:14 collapse

This is why tech ceos need to be afraid to leave their bunkers.

melsaskca@lemmy.ca on 26 Dec 14:24 next collapse

I’ll sell them my birth date information. They already got their filthy lucre from buying and selling my name all over the place, why shouldn’t I get a cut from things I own?

aceshigh@lemmy.world on 26 Dec 17:21 next collapse

My birthday is always January 1st of 2000. It used to be in 20th century but I didn’t want to give away my real age.

boonhet@sopuli.xyz on 26 Dec 21:25 collapse

It used to be in 20th century but I didn’t want to give away my real age.

I take it you’re turning 125 next Thursday?

pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip on 27 Dec 03:37 collapse

I’m guessing their real birthday is probably January 1, 1970; just like every Steam user.

Source if my guess: I was born on January 1 of 1970.

cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 26 Dec 22:12 next collapse

People who bought this hardware are dumb fucks.

Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de on 26 Dec 23:11 next collapse

There really weren’t any comparable standalone alternatives at the time. I just wanted to play some Beatsaber back then.

cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Dec 01:33 collapse

Paraphrasing the guy who owns the company.

Not that he wasn’t entirely correct.

Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 04:00 next collapse

It’s hardware that can be used with SteamVR or load opensource VR apps directly onto it like DoomVR.

This is almost like someone complaining, “Facebook messenger is asking for my birthdate on the 120hz 1440p monitor that Facebook sold me for half price.” and you reply, “People who bought a PC monitor are dumb fucks.”

It is cheap 3d goggles that display what your PC sends it. Just like your monitor. You don’t have to use Meta’s software. You definitely don’t need to use Meta’s VR Chat app (That’s Horizon that the OP references.)_

Meta is selling VR at a loss like a console where they make up the loss with software game sales. But unlike a Switch/PS5, you don’t have to buy their games. So the real idiot is anyone who wants VR and doesn’t buy a Meta product. Buying a Quest and then using SteamVR causes Meta to lose money.

cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Dec 06:04 collapse

I’m paraphrasing the guy who owns it. A known and verified quote that was leaked years ago.

I’d ask how you don’t know this but it’s pretty clear you bought one.

Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 07:38 collapse

I bought them for my kids. I didn’t buy it until you could use it without a Facebook account.

I recognized the quote. But as I explained it doesn’t apply because the dumb fucks are those that can’t see buying a loss leader hardware product and then not using it the way they planned hurts Facebook.

cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Dec 09:22 collapse

Tankies give the order of Lenin. I say rationalization should get the order of… Gladwell or iglacias? One of those guys.

Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 15:19 collapse

Quest is cheap hardware you can use however you want. You didn’t know what you were talking about.

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 06:27 next collapse

Setup a fake account. Use a friend’s bday you’ll remember. Its not hard. That’s like saying “people who use email are dumb fucks” since they also ask for bdays.

God forbid people enjoy some vr.

cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Dec 06:29 collapse

You think that’s all they collect? You bought one, didn’t you?

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 07:03 collapse

My kids got one. We don’t have FB accounts. I have pihole setup as my DNS, don’t have cable, use Firefox and ublock, ads mean fuck all to me. I ride the high seas, have been since Napster. I pay for what I like, avoid what I don’t.

I’m old enough that if there is something they don’t know about me, it’s not hard to find. People act like a company knowing their name and address is going to send them to a early grave or something.

You need to find your balance of security and convenience and learn to live your life.

cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Dec 09:21 collapse

Your…name and address? What century is this?

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 10:07 collapse

You keep asking questions and providing nothing. Put up or shut up.

cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Dec 10:13 collapse

You want my name and address? That seems kind of rude. Why?

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 10:17 collapse

In what way did I ask for that?

cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Dec 10:18 collapse

So what were you asking?

thermal_shock@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 10:29 collapse

WHAT? I didn’t ask a damn thing, I said YOU need to find your balance of security and convenience.

YOU keep asking random questions. Wtf are you on about? You’re talking shit about people with quest hardware like we sold our souls.

I don’t use Facebook, I don’t care about ads since they’re all blocked. What is your beef with people enjoying life?

cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Dec 10:34 collapse

Yeah I hate you because you’re happy. I’m just a bitter spirit of elemental jealousy.

utopiah@lemmy.ml on 27 Dec 08:04 collapse

Even if rooted and used without account via PrivateQuest?

Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 15:14 collapse

Cassandrafatigue doesn’t know anything about what they are talking about.

utopiah@lemmy.ml on 28 Dec 16:42 collapse

Fitting username at least.

dorkofeverything@lemmy.ml on 26 Dec 22:25 next collapse

I understand there’s arguments about “this is not new, they’ve been working on VR for a decade” - fine, but it’s Zuckerberg, who apparently never does anything in good faith (see: the Winklevoss twins, Whatsapp, Snapchat, Libra, etc)

I’m sure they only have VR in order to onboard people to blue app. People have gotten banned and their only recourse is to buy an Oculus. Convenient.

phx@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 06:19 next collapse

Big tech in general. At this point the only one I still have faith in not too fuck over customers “because they can” is Valve.

brucethemoose@lemmy.world on 27 Dec 06:41 collapse

Wasn’t that the obvious deal from the beginning? You buy the subsidized hardware and ignore Facebook’s gravity as long as you can. That’s the catch for the low price.

Anyone who thought otherwise is, well, thinking wishfully.

Elektrobank@lemmy.ml on 31 Dec 17:19 collapse

I cancelled my preorder for the OG Oculus Rift so fast when they announced the Meta buyout