Which obscure browser do you daily drive?
from Maroon@lemmy.world to privacy@lemmy.ml on 27 Feb 22:49
https://lemmy.world/post/26136134

The Firefox ToC discussion pushed me down the browser engine rabbit hole (again). Have you had a chance to daily drive some really good but obscure web engine that is not Gecko (Firefox), WebKit (Apple) and Blink (Chromium)? How viable is it for a complete switch - this includes banking, chatting, logging into websites, etc.

Edit: Added link to the Firefox discussion to give better context to my question.

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No_Bark@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Feb 23:04 next collapse

I’ve been using IronFox on mobile since Mull went away, but I’m ready to hear why that’s a bad option from anyone who knows better.

So far its worked very similarly to Mull, in that I’ve had no issues with it so far. I don’t do banking or financial shit on my phone though, so I can’t comment on how well it works for that functionality.

skankhunt42@lemmy.ca on 27 Feb 23:12 next collapse

I’m trying out waterfox for mobile and librewolf for desktop. No complaints so far

Flagstaff@programming.dev on 28 Feb 00:37 next collapse

Just don’t try to schedule a video for publication in LibreWolf; its time zone obfuscation will totally have it publish at an unexpected time unless you figure that out first! I’ve been on Waterfox for both mobile and desktop and have enjoyed them equally.

mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world on 02 Mar 19:35 collapse

where did you get Waterfox on Android? The Playstore or F droid?

skankhunt42@lemmy.ca on 02 Mar 20:51 collapse

Used F-Droid to download aurora store (open source client for the play store) and used Aurora for waterfox…

mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world on 03 Mar 00:52 collapse

thanks, i asked because the Google PlayStore has WaterFox from waterfox.net. Not sure if this is real or fake, because other Fox forks can only be installed from Fdroid like Mull/Fennec

Tiger@sh.itjust.works on 27 Feb 23:15 next collapse

I’ve used librewolf and it seems good but I’m not a browser expert.

schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de on 27 Feb 23:15 next collapse

I don’t think there are any viable engines other than the three you mention. Other browsers than the three you mention are viable, I am typing this in LibreWolf, but they are all based on one of these three engines.

I recently tried Ladybird and it crashes e.g. when I try to access my Lemmy instance. Definitely not viable yet in 2025, but this doesn’t mean it must remain so.

Auli@lemmy.ca on 01 Mar 14:31 collapse

I mean it isn’t even in beta yet.

VolumetricShitCompressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 27 Feb 23:20 next collapse

What’s the Firefox ToC discussion you mention?

InfiniteFlow@lemmy.world on 27 Feb 23:38 next collapse
sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 27 Feb 23:53 collapse

It is their data now boy

hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org on 27 Feb 23:28 next collapse

seamonkey but it’s pretty hard to use without much love nowadays with so many incompatible websites. It’s a perfect mail client tho.

Just get Firefox ESR with arkenfox, that should be enough.

Sergio@slrpnk.net on 27 Feb 23:37 next collapse

Reminds me to check out lynx again.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 27 Feb 23:54 next collapse

Deskstop Mullvad and librewolf

Android fennec

wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Feb 00:27 next collapse

I’m going to stick with some form of Firefox fork, personally. Chromium forks are questionable, as if I recall right they include a binary blob provided by google, which could be hiding god knows what.

Firefox is fully open source, so any code supporting this potential data harvesting can’t hide, and will be removed by most forks.

knighthawk0811@lemmy.ml on 28 Feb 01:23 next collapse

with the recent news of a ToS from FF which forks would you recommend as a daily driver to replace FF?

whostosay@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 02:36 next collapse

Librewolf has been solid for me. I’ve seen others plug waterfox as well

tabel2@lemmy.wtf on 28 Feb 16:23 collapse

Mullvad Browser is a good one; it’s a partnership between Mullvad and the Tor Project.

Delusion6903@discuss.online on 28 Feb 03:12 collapse

I used librewolf until there was some concern about them updating in a timely manner.

Now I used Firefox with Phoenix to maybe get the best of both worlds and IronFox on mobile.

kibiz0r@midwest.social on 28 Feb 02:42 next collapse

I’ve been using Orion on iOS for a while. It’s not bad.

rando@sh.itjust.works on 01 Mar 23:00 collapse

They are porting to Linux was just announced not long ago… however dont know how long that will take. I am just gonna keep using FF until I can try Orion.

bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net on 28 Feb 03:01 next collapse

Please don’t bank with a bleeding edge web engine that isn’t forked from one that’s been around for decades. It’s really not secure to use things that people haven’t had time to attack yet.

jaypatelani@lemmy.ml on 28 Feb 03:19 next collapse

Articfox librewolf

adespoton@lemmy.ca on 28 Feb 04:10 next collapse

On one of my OSes, I still use Brave.

skeezix@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 05:23 next collapse

holy shit fearless freep

XTL@sopuli.xyz on 28 Feb 09:59 collapse

Brave is a series scam company.

adespoton@lemmy.ca on 28 Feb 15:27 next collapse

Yeah; unfortunately on that particular computer, it’s the only modern browser that still functions. I don’t trust it with anything.

If the question had been “what trustworthy browsers do you use?” I wouldn’t have mentioned it.

tabel2@lemmy.wtf on 28 Feb 16:25 next collapse

If you need or want to use a Chromium browser, Brave seems to be the best, at least according to privacytests.org.

OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml on 28 Feb 23:04 collapse

No real data to backup this claim other than complaints about their addons which can be disabled, and their CEO doesn’t have the best morals and principles. Like we all believe the exact same things everyday all day.

Multiple highly reputable non profits and other sources show the browser itself performs as one of the best when it comes to privacy. Leave the negativity against Nestle.

Float@startrek.website on 28 Feb 04:12 next collapse

Fennec (Firefox based)

beto@lemmy.studio on 28 Feb 04:45 next collapse

I use qutebrowser, it’s a keyboard driven browser that uses QtWebEngine (based on Chromium).

StellarExtract@lemm.ee on 28 Feb 08:31 next collapse

Internet Explorer 11

(just kidding)

MoonRaven@feddit.nl on 28 Feb 08:47 next collapse

Zen

kekmacska@lemmy.zip on 28 Feb 09:08 next collapse

Cromite. it is a very good and private, easy to use browser, but can be heavy on resources github.com/uazo/cromite. It uses Chromium engine. There are browsers like Ladybug and there is also an another project that use their own web engine, but anything that doesn’t use the engines you mentoioned, is impossible to daily drive, most of them doesn’t evem support javascript, or any script execution, which means you can only browse the most basic blogs, and forget about shopping, social media, and even forums

StanislavP@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 16:00 next collapse

I’m really hoping the new ladybird browser is delivered sooner than expected

bunkyprewster@startrek.website on 28 Feb 16:03 next collapse

Is Arc considered obscure?

novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one on 28 Feb 16:23 next collapse

Only IceCat and Librewolf

quaff@lemmy.ca on 28 Feb 16:25 next collapse

Zen for desktop: zen-browser.app

Ironfox for mobile: ironfoxoss.org

FriedRice@lemmy.ml on 28 Feb 17:54 next collapse

I use 4 different browsers, on desktop and mobile. No standard browser.

anon@lemmus.org on 01 Mar 15:37 collapse

I’m just curious, why?

FriedRice@lemmy.ml on 01 Mar 21:18 collapse

Just using them for different tasks. I think its helping me not to be “addicted” to one system. Just like not putting all eggs in one basket 😃

Hiro8811@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 18:04 next collapse

I decided on LibreWolf for work, Mullvad for sensitive search such as places near me, Firefox for random stuff and Tor for piracy sites. I’m currently looking to replace Firefox as well

Imhotep@lemmy.world on 28 Feb 18:33 next collapse

GNOME Web (Epiphany)

I kind of daily drive it as I made webapps with it for some services I host (which Firefox still doesn’t offer natively)

The UI is quite nice but it isn’t always the smoothest in terms of performances. Still, a very respectable effort

jollyrogue@lemmy.ml on 01 Mar 22:20 collapse

Epiphany is making headway. It’s gotten much better in the last year or so.

I can still crash it with too many tabs, JS sometimes makes it crash, and the extension experience is bad, but it’s gotten better.

It is covered by WebKit call out though.

[deleted] on 28 Feb 19:01 next collapse

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unlogic@lemmy.zip on 28 Feb 22:31 next collapse

Librewolf on desktop and ironfox on mobile. The prior for over a year and the latter a few months. Occasionally need to use something else on desktop that needs webgl or similar. I don’t want to change librewolf setting so I use something else. Usually a work related thing anyway

[deleted] on 28 Feb 22:48 next collapse

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thatradomguy@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 05:17 next collapse

I don’t know if Librewolf counts as obscure enough but Mozilla’s decisions on things as of late have been very questionable. It’s probably not enough to just use Librewolf but it’s a start…

scheep@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 05:29 next collapse

I use floorp (firefox fork) because I like having the tabs at the bottom. Makes them closer to the taskbar and a bit easier to navigate.

ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 01 Mar 16:09 next collapse

Falkon for clearweb Librewolf for Tor Netsurf for i2p

LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works on 01 Mar 23:03 collapse

Isn’t accessing TOR network from any other browser than Tor Browser a serious anonymity risk?

ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 02 Mar 01:00 collapse

Mayhaps. I shall investigate.

LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works on 01 Mar 23:00 next collapse

If you want obscure, I can recommend Lagrange. It can browse only gemini pages though, so you can’t visit your favourite html websites.

darksiderbun@lemmy.ca on 01 Mar 23:15 collapse

Gemini is so weird and cool! My first day with it really made me want to start a little microblog on it or something

biofaust@lemmy.world on 01 Mar 23:16 next collapse

Cannot wait to try Ladybird in a somewhat stable form.

golden_zealot@lemmy.ml on 02 Mar 00:01 next collapse

Lynx.

If I don’t need image or video content, it’s great.

Thetimefarm@lemm.ee on 02 Mar 04:42 collapse

Iceraven, it let’s me install desktop firefox extensions on android.