Politicians have nothing to fear if they have nothing to hide
from Maroon@lemmy.world to privacy@lemmy.ml on 04 Aug 2024 10:12
https://lemmy.world/post/18269637
from Maroon@lemmy.world to privacy@lemmy.ml on 04 Aug 2024 10:12
https://lemmy.world/post/18269637
There are many corrupt people in the government, both elected politicians and unelected officials. Many are p#do***les, other launder money, some rig elections, while others surveil and harass innocent people.
To protect our Parliament, and Constitution, all these politicians and their families should come under public scrutiny. All their financial records, their communications, their online search histories, should be in the public domain.
In other words, we need parity of privacy between the State and its People.
This sounds hair-brained and extreme, but the public is already under intensive surveillance. I think experience needs to be felt by the officials as well so they finally begin to value the fundamental right to privacy.
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10 more years and posts like this will be classified as hate speech and terror act against the state.
secretly classified*
Imagine living under 24/7 surveillance just because you are unlucky enough to be some politician’s family member or a close friend.
It might be controversial, but: privacy should exist for everyone. No matter who you are, journalist, politician, activist or just a normal guy — anyone’s privacy should be valued the same way. We need to push privacy in the masses, not vice versa.
I consider this post as more of a thought experiment. If this sounds extreme to you, then the mass surveillance of society is even more extreme.
The fact governments almost always exempt themselves should be all that’s needed to prove the measures violate a democratic societies rule of law and civil liberties, and that their promotion should be considered treason — an attack on the civil liberties of the entire population is an attack on democracy itself.
I forget what privacy podcast I was listening to but they said that privacy is important because you might not be under scrutiny now but could be.
After the Boston marathon bombing reddit was scouring footage and believed a particular person was responsible (“we did it reddit!”). They were wrong. People found his address, work etc and he was stalked and harrassed for days though he did nothing wrong.
You can bet he would have liked to disappear for a while, and a little extra everyday privacy in advance would have made that a lot easier.
The more power a person has, the less privacy we cann afford to give them.
I heard once that in Norway, all members of parliament have to basically make most of their finances public (somebody confirm pls). I think anybody who is tasked with ruling a country should be required to show all their wealth assets and income sources for a few years even after they leave office.
Most democratic countries have what’s known as a “Sworn Declaration”. This is supposed to be a financial audit for anyone aspiring to a public office position.
In my country these are doctored and then some. Our next to last president used to work as a packer at a “bodega” in New York, but his sworn declaration put him at a net worth of over 100 million dollars.
The whole system, in every country, is corrupt.
if you want to address the root cause of surveillance you should be demanding the government to change it’s ways ? Is that what you’re saying ?
I don’t think it’s the lack of transparency or corruption by the government, I think that the very existence of a government ( a centralized authority ) leads to this sort of behavior, you can’t outsource your power to choose, some of your absolute liberty to a ruler and expect they won’t abuse it, you can’t have your cake and eat it with this system, a system where democracies act as Dictatorships, and sometimes they do it openly and all you can do is watch
You need to go outside your borders, if you think a government can’t work.
It’s funny you you say that, because we humans as a species are so fascinating, we harnessed many forces of natue, and we came up with mindblowing ideas, yet when it comes to the concept of a government, we think that’s the only system that can work, and the only way that we can live, it’s sad honestly, governments abuse their power, you can’t get them to stop it… unless you want a bullet…so so much for being civil
I didn’t say other forms don’t work.
I’m just saying a government works very well other places and in smaller countries. Especially in the nordic Europe, where ironically has a bigger government than most countries, and are better off.
Yah bUt TaXEs HiGH
Edit: didn’t think I needed the /s
we look up to those nations and we say it worked for them, so it’ll work for us, but there are many factors to consider that won’t play the same for you
and i would argue that even when it works, it’s still susceptible to failure, change of rulers, bad policies accumulate quietly, being told to do something unethical for the greater good ( e.g. taxes )
what about other places where it didn’t work? even after years and years of trying ( voting ), what do you call doing the same thing and expecting different results ? … when you try to remove a dictator peacefully and you end up getting bombed, remember that the Syrian protests started with red roses and ended with blood… anyways I feel I’m going way off topic here… but the point is give a central authority too much power and they’ll abuse it, if not now it’ll be later… so just don’t …it’s time to move on, we can organize ourselves without selling our liberties like our right to privacy.
btw, I thought about this, a looong time ago, when I was thinking is this system rigged? young me felt there’s a conspiracy, but now I realize it’s just how it works, it demands control
At our current development, the solution is better government, NOT no government.
Government can the done decent. It ain't got to be a clone degenaracy
Yes, you can do that when you have to vote for the lesser evil… and compromise!.. how about NO
what about your principles ? what about setting an example for the future generations ? what are they going to think of their ancestors who lived under and had to work with evil systems because "that’s what they had to work with"
I’m not saying it’s going to be easy, but we need to recognize these systems of control, and boycott them and I’m very glad to see more and more people waking up to the surveillance agenda and leaving Big tech… the government is also a control system, people hate to admit that because it makes them think they’re weak, but that’s not true…
Bro i am with you on that lesser of evil aint gonna do shit.
I am voting third party as protest vote until i die or enough of us do it.
coupled with direct action. that's really all a peasant can do, it aint worth dying over it or suffering anymore then it is imposed up on you. like you said, boycott!
hence why, voting with your money is more powerful then even voting third party. this one hurts owner class.
we don't hate choice on necessities but other thinks our opinion can be felt with a financial quarter and they have to listen :)
Same here, I support both of you, I’ve never voted and will never vote for a lesser evil kind of candidate. I imagine those who do so are fancy folks who live in first world nations and preach a biased take on democracy. They’ve never known an oppressive government masquerading as a democracy, people in my country literally canvass and vote for the same ppl who strip them of their rights. That’s on them, can never be me.
Harebrained.
BoneAppetite 🫡
That’s a good response to their act but it’s not the way to go, instead of controlling everyone included the politicals just stop to control the world
You forgot the “/s”
Cops too. All civil servants