It Looks Like a School Bathroom Smoke Detector. A Teen Hacker Showed It Could Be an Audio Bug (www.smry.ai)
from Zerush@lemmy.ml to privacy@lemmy.ml on 11 Aug 14:42
https://lemmy.ml/post/34498664

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Summary by Andi:

A teenage hacker named Reynaldo Vasquez-Garcia discovered that the Halo 3C vape detector, which looks like a standard smoke detector in school bathrooms, contained hidden microphones and security flaws that allowed it to be turned into a secret listening device[^1].

Working with another hacker known as “Nyx,” Vasquez-Garcia found the device could be hacked by exploiting weak password controls and firmware update vulnerabilities. Once compromised, attackers could use it to eavesdrop on conversations in real-time, disable its detection capabilities, create fake alerts, or play audio through its speaker[^1].

The researchers revealed these findings at the 2025 Defcon hacker conference, demonstrating how any hacker on the same network could hijack a Halo 3C by brute-forcing passwords at 3,000 attempts per minute. The device’s firmware could also be modified since its encryption key was publicly available in updates on the manufacturer’s website[^1].

Motorola, which owns the Halo 3C’s manufacturer IPVideo Corporation, said it developed a firmware update to address the security flaws. However, the researchers argue this doesn’t solve the fundamental privacy concern of having microphone-equipped devices installed in sensitive locations like school bathrooms and public housing[^1].

[^1]: Wired - It Looks Like a School Bathroom Smoke Detector. A Teen Hacker Showed It Could Be an Audio Bug

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MarriedCavelady50@lemmy.ml on 11 Aug 15:10 next collapse

So, why are microphones included in smoke detectors? Is this a dumb failsafe where it activates if it hears other smoke detectors?

wuphysics87@lemmy.ml on 11 Aug 15:37 next collapse

It’s to hear the screams of people burning alive

TankieTanuki@hexbear.net on 11 Aug 16:49 collapse

*The sound of children screaming has been removed*

Keyboard@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 15:37 next collapse

Right? So dumb 😂😂😂

facow@hexbear.net on 11 Aug 15:46 next collapse

It’s apparently a vape and bullying detector. So ostensibly the mics are used for the bullying part. But it does make you wonder the vape detection actually works by just listening for “can I get a hit”

Zerush@lemmy.ml on 11 Aug 15:53 next collapse

I don’t know, maybe to be activated when someone screams “Fire”. I don’t even know why smart smoke detectors, the traditional ones are working pretty good. Stupid, not “smart”, the hype to include AI everywhere.

Serinus@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 16:10 collapse

It is nice to have the smoke detector communicate out its status. I sure like to know when my house is on fire, even if I’m not home. And a notification about a battery being low is much nicer than incessant beeping.

None of this replaces the primary local, physical functionality. You don’t depend on technology for the thing to work; it’s just an addition.

Glitterbomb@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 16:41 collapse

It also has a microphone for listening out for “aggression,” gunshots, and keywords such as someone calling for help, a feature that to Vasquez-Garcia immediately raised concerns of more intrusive surveillance.

It’s in the article. I’d cause so many false positives for ‘aggression’ when taking a shit. My God this is terrible

JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz on 11 Aug 18:39 collapse

Does it report you talking shit about the local government to the authorities? At this point, it doesn’t seem that far-fetched.

SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world on 11 Aug 19:34 collapse

I doubt they built it with the processing power for that when the audio picked up from a large number of these placed throughout the building can all be routed to a central server with the power to follow people around and maintain audio contact wherever they go.

golden_zealot@lemmy.ml on 11 Aug 17:39 next collapse

This kid is going to have a career.

[deleted] on 11 Aug 20:05 collapse

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FauxLiving@lemmy.world on 11 Aug 20:25 collapse

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[deleted] on 11 Aug 20:06 next collapse

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OminousOrange@lemmy.ca on 11 Aug 21:02 collapse

Exactly as designed…

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 12 Aug 03:11 collapse

Microphone cosplaying as a smoke detector

Schools are being turned into prisons