Privacy@Lemmy.ml: Why use catch-all email domains over email aliases?
from TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world to privacy@lemmy.ml on 28 Jun 2024 09:33
https://lemmy.world/post/17006198

I’ve been looking at using email aliases services, and right now I’m thinking of using Simplelogin for all my online accounts and accounts where I can change my email easily, and getting my own domain to share with people and where I can’t easily update my email. It seems like I shouldn’t use my own domain for online services because it would be unique and can be tracked.

I did lots of reading about this and am still wondering why someone would want to opt for catch-all domains over aliases. Catch-alls seem highly susceptible to spam and while I haven’t actually done any email aliasing yet, it doesn’t seem to take much effort to make a new alias if you have a plan with unlimited aliases.

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Midnight1938@reddthat.com on 28 Jun 2024 09:51 next collapse

What i wanna know is why when ive linked my domaie email to outlook, does it send my emails into people’s spam box

Bocky@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2024 15:47 collapse

Probably related to the low quality of your communications

GlenRambo@jlai.lu on 28 Jun 2024 16:42 next collapse

😅

Midnight1938@reddthat.com on 28 Jun 2024 19:31 collapse

I send the usual emails, family, images, files etc. Ive even checked with 3rd party email checkers

pipariturbiini@sopuli.xyz on 28 Jun 2024 09:53 next collapse

Both are fine choices depending on your requirements. The thing with external alias services, you are not in control of the addresses/domain. Catch-all addresses are essentially aliases you manage, but something like Simplelogin does have the benefit of hiding your domain name.

Spam is not a big deal on catch-all. A couple of times a year I do get a spam mail to some arbirtary address, but that’s more or less it.

joeldebruijn@lemmy.ml on 28 Jun 2024 12:56 collapse

Same experience

Oh , that’s cute this spammer thinks there must be an admin@mydomain.com etc

Only other downside I could think if is when my catch all cant be used to send a mail or reply.

So I do use them a lot for suppliers en services, but for registering initially and password reset. But I can’t use it to contact support by mail.

Mostly I rely on forms or self service portals when I need it as a customer.

pipariturbiini@sopuli.xyz on 29 Jun 2024 18:35 collapse

Only other downside I could think if is when my catch all cant be used to send a mail or reply.

On Protonmail, I just create a new address if I need to send email from that address. Afterwards I just delete it, freeing up the address slot.

explore_broaden@midwest.social on 28 Jun 2024 09:56 next collapse

Part of the reason I prefer having a catch-all on my own domain is that I can change providers without changing any email addresses. For example at the moment I run my own server, but in the future if that becomes too time consuming I can easily start paying for a service.

ETA: also I’ve never gotten any spam to a email I haven’t given out, people don’t really send emails to random names at a domain as far as I can tell

Link@rentadrunk.org on 28 Jun 2024 10:20 collapse

This depends if you have a website on your domain and it appears on search engines. I do and had to modify Rspamd as bots were spamming addresses like abuse@ and other dictionary words.

explore_broaden@midwest.social on 28 Jun 2024 10:46 collapse

I use a subdomain for aliases, while my real address is at the base domain, which I suppose negates this issue.

pirat@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2024 15:56 collapse

Something like hello@sub.dom.com? I have never seen an address containing a subdomain, but cool if it’s actually possible!

explore_broaden@midwest.social on 28 Jun 2024 21:32 collapse

Yes, exactly. I haven’t really had any issues with any website taking the email, some people do actually have subdomains in an email for work, I know some of my teachers in school had an email like person@k12.county.state.gov.

It also has the advantage of letting you have multiple users on your server, a couple of my family members also have their own subdomain catch-all that redirects to their own base domain address.

[deleted] on 28 Jun 2024 09:57 next collapse
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devtoi@feddit.nu on 28 Jun 2024 10:00 next collapse

I have basically the same thoughts as you. The reasons I can think of is:

  • Convenience (but SL is pretty convenient)
  • Less of a lock-in to one vendor.
  • Avoiding filters on sites not allowing aliasing domains (often incorrectly under the label “temporary email addresses”)
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world on 28 Jun 2024 15:00 next collapse

Custom domains mean that if the alias provider enshittifies, you can switch to any other provider near-instantly. As long as you never use the domains to host illegal or dodgy shit it’s extremely unlikely you’ll ever lose them — far less likely than losing a gmail or whatever.

With SL you can avoid spam by using the “beta” (been beta for 3+ years lol) “auto create” option instead of a catch-all, meaning that you can direct emails to different inboxes (or do nothing) based on specific regex strings you control — up to 100 of them. I had a catch-all regex (.*) as my # 100 and it took 2 years to receive catch-all fishing spam. Then I removed it and now have only random strings (e.g. .*fgyu.*) so new emails must have them if they want to get somewhere. Everything else bounces. All previous emails continue to work until you disable them individually.

I use a mix:

  • SL-domains: anything I don’t give a shit about.
  • Non-PII domain: anything I would want to persist if I changed provider, but don’t need my identity, or can give out a unique email in-person.
  • PII-domain: banks and all other services tied to my identity.
  • Top-Secret-PII-domain: critical services that could compromise all others (password manager, email/OS accounts, domain name registrar).
lemmyreader@lemmy.ml on 28 Jun 2024 18:20 collapse

I did lots of reading about this and am still wondering why someone would want to opt for catch-all domains over aliases. Catch-alls seem highly susceptible to spam and while I haven’t actually done any email aliasing yet,

I’m using catch-all since years and no spammer has ever made up a new email alias to spam me.

it doesn’t seem to take much effort to make a new alias if you have a plan with unlimited aliases.

That depends. The moment you are in a shop without your phone/email and they really want an email address you can simply write down their_company_name@your_email_domain_name for them without having to compromise anything.