FTC Issues Orders to Eight Companies Seeking Information on Surveillance Pricing (www.ftc.gov)
from sem@lemmy.ml to privacy@lemmy.ml on 24 Jul 2024 09:39
https://lemmy.ml/post/18344960

After reading such news I have an obvious question. Does anyone know a PayPal-like service, that allows to hide the destination of my transactions from Mastercard / bank, but with a good privacy policy? Or how else can I restrict the usage of my financial data by mastercard or bank?

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kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Jul 2024 10:19 next collapse

Best way to hide transactions is with crypto. And namely Monero. Not exactly PayPal like but Monero is the most private.

sem@lemmy.ml on 24 Jul 2024 10:24 next collapse

Unfortunately there are a very small amount of places when I can pay with crypto… I do not want to face also questions from AML officers. I’m not a journalist in the dangerous country or political activist, so Monero looks like an overhead for me.

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 24 Jul 2024 10:28 next collapse

Monero is for everybody. The most common things I purchase on a monthly basis in Monero are Domino’s Pizza and groceries. And as far as I’m aware, neither of those things are illegal. Monero is money, just like a $100 bill is money (currently). It is perfectly legal to hold and use Monero.

umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml on 24 Jul 2024 10:46 next collapse

Domino takes crypto now?

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 24 Jul 2024 10:49 collapse

No, but it’s very easy to buy a Domino’s gift card with Monero and use that.

kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Jul 2024 11:44 collapse

Where I live they used to accept BTC. Not Monero unfortunately.

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 24 Jul 2024 11:49 collapse

Well, there are plenty of places that do accept Monero. Take a look at monerica.com and xmrbazaar.com which is a small but growing marketplace to buy and sell anything you wish (excluding illegal goods) .

kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Jul 2024 12:01 collapse

Oh that’s interesting! Thanks for letting me know.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 24 Jul 2024 14:56 collapse

Until you do your taxes. The government hates crypto.

Hugin@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 2024 14:30 collapse

Taxes in the US for crypto are easy. I sold some crypto I had and just put the amount in the other income box and paid the tax.

ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org on 25 Jul 2024 07:50 collapse

Besides the other user’s recommendation, have a look at coincards. Haven’t used them yet, but they have gift cards for a lot of things, online and physical brands too.

Mango@lemmy.world on 24 Jul 2024 20:31 collapse

No it’s not. Crypto is very specifically not that. It’s an open ledger.

makeasnek@lemmy.ml on 25 Jul 2024 06:56 collapse

This is not accurate. Monero offers a very high degree of privacy and anonymity. So does Bitcoin lightning, to a lesser degree. Lightning transactions don’t go on chain and are known only to: sender, recipient, and intermediate nodes, if any.

Mango@lemmy.world on 25 Jul 2024 07:49 collapse

Nice try FBI.

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 24 Jul 2024 10:25 next collapse

Yeah, Monero is absolutely your best bet for financial privacy in the digital world. There’s nothing that compares.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 24 Jul 2024 14:54 next collapse

I think Taler has a lot of promise. It protects the buyer but keeps a record of the money received. This helps prevent tax evasion.

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 24 Jul 2024 15:07 collapse

helps prevent theft evasion.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 24 Jul 2024 19:30 collapse

No it doesn’t

ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org on 25 Jul 2024 07:50 collapse

Actually, cash compares, doesn’t it? Not online of course, but otherwise

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 25 Jul 2024 19:37 collapse

Yes and no cash for the physical world does indeed protect your privacy properly. However, you do run into the issue that you have to trust. Your government’s currency, which at least for me, I do not. So Monero is also a way of getting out from the government currency that I believe is being debased and devalued.

sar1n@infosec.pub on 24 Jul 2024 10:54 next collapse

The eight companies in question are: Mastercard, Revionics, Bloomreach, JPMorgan Chase, Task Software, PROS, Accenture, and McKinsey & Co.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 24 Jul 2024 14:53 next collapse

We are in the end game

bl4kers@lemmy.ml on 24 Jul 2024 22:43 next collapse

Honestly if you want real financial privacy, the best thing to use is {insert cryptocurrency that I’m heavily financially invested in}

tuhriel@infosec.pub on 24 Jul 2024 23:06 next collapse

Hey, hey…pssst you forgot to update the template to the your current crypto!

dgriffith@aussie.zone on 25 Jul 2024 07:31 collapse

You’re right, I try to use {insert cryptocurrency that I’m heavily financially invested in} for my every day transactions as much as possible, you should too, and you can get amazing returns as well! It’s win-win nobody loses ❤️

pound_heap@lemm.ee on 25 Jul 2024 01:28 collapse

There is Privacy.com that gives you virtual cards to use for purchases. Money go from your bank account to them. Destination is visible on payment description still, but it may fool bank’s algorithm. Or you can get paid plan from Privacy.com and mask destination completely.

sem@lemmy.ml on 25 Jul 2024 07:55 collapse

That is what I need! Unfortunately, it is for US only… Is there, maybe, something similar in European region?

pound_heap@lemm.ee on 25 Jul 2024 13:47 collapse

Oh, sorry, I’ve assumed that you are in US since you posted an article about FTC.

I don’t know if there is a similar service in Europe. I think you could get a virtual card linked to a crypto wallet, but this obviously comes with downsides