Flock Surveillance company is expanding
from possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip to privacy@lemmy.ml on 17 Aug 2024 04:33
https://lemmy.zip/post/21058613

I recently discovered a company called Flock which apparently is building a massive surveillance network. I came across a reddit post on r/sysadmin where an admin received a request to install a black box device so that law enforcement could access cameras.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flock_Safety

aclu.org/…/how-to-pump-the-brakes-on-your-police-… (disclaimer: I don’t support the political views of ACLU)

reddit.com/…/local_police_want_permanent_access_t…

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TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub on 17 Aug 2024 05:02 next collapse

(disclaimer: I don’t support the political views of ACLU)

The… political views? As in, where they decided to stop defending Nazis?

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 17 Aug 2024 05:07 next collapse

They are fairly far left. I think freedom and privacy shouldn’t he political. That is why I felt the need to leave a disclaimer as there are some political statements in the page.

frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml on 17 Aug 2024 06:05 next collapse

If you consider the ACLU to be ‘far left’ I don’t think I want you at my kickbacks tbh

psud@aussie.zone on 17 Aug 2024 07:05 next collapse

Do you mean that you don’t like the way they prefer to defend individuals against corporations rather than the other way around, or the way they don’t help people defend themselves against lawful and reasonable government action?

BearOfaTime@lemm.ee on 17 Aug 2024 08:01 next collapse

The ACLU stopped being neutral long ago, if they ever were.

Fuck the ACLU at this point.

WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world on 17 Aug 2024 14:10 collapse

FYI, as someone who has only seen good work from the ACLU, If you don’t explain what they did that you consider wrong, I’m gonna assume you’re potentially a mentally ill lunatic, rather than having rational grievances.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 17 Aug 2024 17:50 collapse

I don’t mean any of those things. I just want to point out that I don’t support the political statements. I am not looking to start a fight.

Tangent5280@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 12:40 collapse

“I am not looking to start a fight”

That works, sometimes.

anarcha_tankie_top@lemmygrad.ml on 17 Aug 2024 08:17 next collapse

everything is political.

this company pushing invasive surveillance tech upon underserved-and-overpoliced communities like mine is political.
our “representatives” accepting invasive surveillance technology is political.
our “representatives” requesting more invasive surveillance technology is political.
“law enforcement” having (real-time) access to all of these invasive surveillance tech like LPRs & cameras is political.
the core purpose of the police is political.

Also, the political cannot be seperated from the economic.

the bourgeois capitalist corporate media outlets push narratives that spread fear because it draws attention… more eyes/ears means that they can sell commercial time/spots at a higher rate to advertisers.
so, these outlets generate revenue by scaring the shit out of their audience.

our ostensible “representatives” run on & fundraise off of these manufactured narratives.

the police officer associations use this fear to lobby our “representatives” for greater resources (i.e., an increased share of the municipal budget (i.e, less money for everything else) shiny, new toys, more officers, etc.).

the companies supplying invasive surveillance tech make money through sales and/or (future) contracts.

it’s all political, and the political is connected to the economic.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 17 Aug 2024 17:46 next collapse

I don’t think you need to be a minority to be impacted by this tech. That is actually the most terrifying part. It doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from you are being watched constantly. To be far most peoples cell phones use Google and the cell phone companies can track you somewhat with the modem. The difference is a phone isn’t needed for transportation.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 17 Aug 2024 17:46 collapse

I don’t think you need to be a minority to be impacted by this tech. That is actually the most terrifying part. It doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from you are being watched constantly. To be far most peoples cell phones use Google and the cell phone companies can track you somewhat with the modem. The difference is a phone isn’t needed for transportation. Also your face is hard to change let alone your walk or any other ways they can identify you.

steel_nomad@lemmy.world on 17 Aug 2024 08:33 next collapse

Everything is political. Unfortunately. BUT I am for ANY org that is in favor of individual rights and freedoms. Haven’t looked at the ACLU in a while tho tbf

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 17 Aug 2024 17:41 next collapse

The ACLU isn’t to bad but they are definitely liberal. However, the work they do benefits us all. The EFF is a little less left leaning so I tend to prefer articles written by them.

Schmoo@slrpnk.net on 17 Aug 2024 18:58 collapse

Less left leaning than liberal? Are you suggesting the EFF is conservative?

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 17 Aug 2024 21:38 collapse

No, I am not. I am saying they are a little less politically extreme. They are left leaning but they less public about it. They still have left leaning views but they aren’t as vocal about it.

user@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 16:31 collapse

Because you make it that. Its political for you but for me, no.

GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml on 17 Aug 2024 08:51 collapse

Saying it won’t help on Lemmy. When its users see anything related to politics, they will fight. Just ignore it.

GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml on 17 Aug 2024 08:51 next collapse

Toxic.

krolden@lemmy.ml on 17 Aug 2024 17:16 collapse

What are you dolts arguing about the ACLU comment instead of discussing the actual post?

refalo@programming.dev on 17 Aug 2024 18:05 collapse

Because in a way, everything is political, to someone, whether you like it or not. Even mentioning the ACLU could imply there is some agenda behind what OP is doing.

krolden@lemmy.ml on 17 Aug 2024 20:15 collapse

Engage with the fact that theyre tracking every car on the road in real time. Thats plenty political, so why focus on who’s talking about it?

There hasn’t been a single other comment other than mine as of writing this thats actually talking about these cameras, you’re all just circle jerking about the righteousness of some.organization that isn’t even important to the discission.

krolden@lemmy.ml on 17 Aug 2024 16:59 next collapse

Theyve been popping up all over my area. My city doesn’t have them buy we are surrounded by them on three sides. Its fucking disgusting and terrifying and no one seems to give a shit and just get annoyed that I point them out every time we pass one.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 17 Aug 2024 17:29 next collapse

What do they look like?

krolden@lemmy.ml on 17 Aug 2024 20:12 collapse

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/358f9e99-9b88-4a36-b87e-2d5b93ef44f2.jpeg">

www.flocksafety.com/devices/lpr

www.flocksafety.com/flock-os

www.flocksafety.com/…/real-time-crime-center

www.cehrp.org/dissection-of-flock-safety-camera/

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/6c619a92-c2d7-4238-aa92-23b4f2915d70.jpeg">

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/13cd24e5-2262-45ac-b5a4-e9b884fbac4a.jpeg">

Manalith@midwest.social on 18 Aug 04:57 collapse

Would love an OSM map that had surveilance camera locations listed. Looked on organic maps, but that’s not an option to place.

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geography082@lemm.ee on 18 Aug 01:08 collapse

I like the last pictures , looks someone ripped one and examined it. I was about to suggest to do that break them at night

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 18 Aug 03:38 collapse

I wouldn’t commit a crime. That seems like a very bad idea and could result in a criminal record and prison time.

Fight with our spirit, voice and civil disobedience.

krolden@lemmy.ml on 18 Aug 04:29 next collapse

Yeah thats worked out great so far eh?

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 18 Aug 04:50 collapse

It has

We have made progress

Tangent5280@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 12:39 collapse

Exactly. Thats exactly the right thing to say on public social media. We are all obedient little pigs here.