It’s not their fault that they can’t make Graphene OS for more models. It’s the fault of the manufacturers of these smartphones who always put a stick in the wheel for anyone who wants to make a privacy oriented OS for their smartphone models.

OK, fine… I’ll be honest…

I have had good experiences with it. I have not had problems with apps. Most of my apps I get via Obtaininum. As for the UI, I think it is fine.

I don’t think Google will be able to lock my Pixel’s bootloader, and, if they do, well it is already running the OS. So it shouldn’t be a problem for a while. If at some time GrapheneOS stops being supported I will find something else. I don’t need a guarantee of permanence to find it useful today.

What are u talking about ui design it stock android from google

This isn’t even a bad opinion, it’s just ignorance.

It only has a problem with some banking apps, the ui is stock android, the premise isn’t to make an operating system built only for Google Pixels it’s to make a secure OS and currently Pixels are the only hardware that meets the requirements and hypothetical futures can be imagined to make any product sound doomed.

My apps work fine, the ui is the same as stock, and I have no bloatware or ai crap invading every part of my phone.

Dogshit, braindead take. I’ve been on Graphene for months and had almost no issues. The issues I’ve had have been fixed within days because they come out with software updates damn near weekly. Tell me you’ve never used Graphene without telling me you’ve never used Graphene. You dumbass, its designed to be minimalistic and peacemeal.

This has to be ragebait.

Oh really. What are you even taking about. Have you even used GrapheneOS. Get real.

I totally disagree. I’ve had very very minimal issues with anything on GrapheneOS and they use Pixel hardware because they have extra hardware security chips in them

Honestly, its not perfect, but at least I’m not having ai prompts and constant adverts shoved in my face.

The stock Graphine apps and home launcher are very basic, they didn’t focus on them because there are a prethora of better options already out there. For the basics, I recommend lawnchair, fossify gallary, fossify file manager, fossify phone, and open camera. For messages, I’ve got nothing. Only thing I’ve found that works right with group chats and sending pictures is google messages…

Before complaining, what have you done? What does your post do?

You post like a PSYOP, like we should give up, like there is no hope, WRONG.

At least they are trying. What you are you doing to defend our software freedom?

Tell me you don’t understand GrapheneOS without telling me you don’t understand GrapheneOS.

This typed from a GrapheneOS phone that works just great, including the UI (breath of fresh simple air, no clutter, no crap, no AI).

And I’m happily using my phone knowing that not a single thing is spying on me or data mining and everything on my phone is there by my choice. And even happier that there’s not a damn thing Google can do about it.

Yes, you are wrong.

Since others have broadly explained that you are in fact wrong here, let's address this hot take by hot take:

It's absolutely janky when it comes to its Android app support,

These limitation are needlessly imposed by google and app developers. And you are overstating the amount of the affected apps.

it's UI is absolutely atrocious

it is bare bones stock adroid but you can install whatever you want, nobody is stopping you. they don't sell UI. they sell control.

It's simply a wonky operating system.

what does does this mean. it is the most basic bare bones system you can have, that works out of the box.

an operating system built only for Google pixel hardware

they have spec reqa for their security architecture, no other phone provides the specs.

Google could snap its fingers tomorrow and lock down the ability to unlock bootloaders.

this is a valid criticism and google has shown its face recently.

GOS team is now working on trying to find OEM to meet their specs. TBD.

Prompted me to donate, they need support. They provide a solid product for anyone who cares to control software on their devices.

Different reasons, but I don’t really get the point of it either. It only works on Pixel devices, which means you gotta pay iPhone prices and reward Google’s bad behavior. If you’re fine paying that, you’re probably not too far against Google’s behavior and thus, why are you using Graphene? If you’re against Google’s boorish privacy practices, get an iPhone. Apple is sort of trying to take a stand against privacy invasion (at least to Google’s scaling; they aren’t perfect) but the fact remains, a lot of people don’t care about privacy. Pixel+Graphene is objectively better for privacy than iOS, sure, but there are tradeoffs and people who love Graphene are willing to accept them.

The biggest problem with iOS is, it’s closed source and we don’t know what Apple will do tomorrow. As a Mac guy I don’t have a problem with Apple vis a vis my Macs. However the iPhone is kinda silly for a few reasons, but I still prefer it to the alternative because I don’t want to be playing around with custom firmware. That’s a younger man’s game. It was my game when I was a younger man and I don’t want to be in that scene anymore. My choice. I know it’s a good choice for others. Android isn’t really open source either, though. AOSP is — but forks of it, like the Android on Pixels, like OneUI (I still wanna call it TouchWiz), HTC Sense, and all the others, are not. Of course, if you’re running Graphene, or Oxygen (again, I still wanna call it Cyanogen), or something like that (I used to be sweet on an AOKP fork called LiquidSmooth), you’re playing with open source so you do have that. But you also give up a lot.

I do think it’s a bit weird Graphene is only on Pixel. But I guess by keeping the device list small, they can focus on what they want to do, which isn’t support every phone, it’s supporting ones they know they can.

At the end of the day, Graphene is a better option for privacy than iOS, which is better than any commercial Android OS by default due to not having Google Play Services.

I’d say you have to really assess what kind of privacy you need. Maybe iOS is enough. If it’s not, Graphene is a good bet. I don’t need Graphene. Heck, I’d be fine with Pixel Android, but I have an iPhone so I can afford to claim the high road in privacy. Just not the highest road. I know where I stand. But I know where I need to be and I’m standing pretty close to it. If someone needs to be in another place, what works for me may not work for them.

Google could snap its fingers tomorrow and lock down the ability to unlock bootloaders.

This could prevent my next phone from being a Pixel.

But to be clear, there’s nothing Google can do to my already unlocked phone running free (as in freedom) software.

I am already outside their walled garden, running a phone that will comfortably outlast all of the vendor locked ones receiving enshittification updates.

Now, I agree that the long term future of GrapheneOS, if it has one, probably isn’t Google hardware. I find that Google doesn’t present themselves, on the whole, as a trustworthy ally to free computing.

But for today, it kicks ass.

Google could snap its fingers tomorrow and lock down the ability to unlock bootloaders.

only valid point in the post afaict

GR8 B8 M8 🎣

Lol look at this wankers post history

I’ll agree with you in the UI. There black and white icons suck.

As a user, I can definitely say that GrapheneOS is the single best project in the open source space. 99.99% of stuff works out-of-the-box, with de-facto feature parity. The remaining 0.01% is the one dumb investing app which I can only assume has sneaky spyware on it.

That would be like trying to open up a gay nightclub in Qatar.

It’s not just qatar. It’s many many allies of the fascist USA.

Don’t feel bad about your statement everyone should have high standards when it comes to criticism

Its UI…? It’s got the same UI as Android…?

The UI is just AOSP android, simple and ugly (imo) as always. It’s not unique in that either, most OEMs have a skin based on AOSP in some way.

As for the app support, I have had very little issues over the past year on GrapheneOS. Aside from some apps being exclusive to the play store (ie they don’t host them elsewhere and Aurora doesn’t have a copy), I have a pretty seamless experience. And yes, including banking apps.

Tap to pay doesn’t work (they’re upfront about that) but NFC is still fully features in my experience.

Wondering if engaging here is the wrong move but this is hoooooly shit levels of bullschibe ragebait

Fuck that shit its awesome and yeah that’s not how any of that works