Did Mozilla just sell all Firefox users' location data to AccuWeather without our consent?
from AeroLemming@lemm.ee to privacy@lemmy.ml on 03 Sep 23:50
https://lemm.ee/post/41369580

This just showed up on my home page after an update. I wasn’t asked and never gave any sort of consent.

#privacy

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piracysails@lemm.ee on 03 Sep 23:58 next collapse

The weather is sponsored?

ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org on 04 Sep 00:02 next collapse

is this a serious question? the weather forecast is the question

AeroLemming@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 00:30 next collapse

No, sponsored in this context means that AccuWeather paid Mozilla to put their little widget on everyone’s New Tab screen.

adespoton@lemmy.ca on 04 Sep 03:46 collapse

Why am I not seeing it on my new tab screens?

AeroLemming@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 04:41 collapse

It might be regional.

ArtVandelay@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 01:29 collapse

This thunderstorm brought to you by Carl’s Jr

palitu@aussie.zone on 04 Sep 02:44 collapse

Idiocracy quote?

ExtravagantEnzyme@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 00:07 next collapse

Are you implying Mozilla paid AccuWeather to have placement on it’s browser? It’s always the other way around, think about Google paying to be the default search engine on Safari. If anything, I have to think Mozilla was paid to incorporate AccuWeather and not the other way around.

EherNicht@feddit.org on 04 Sep 00:32 next collapse

They also payed to be the default on Firefox ._.

AeroLemming@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 00:33 collapse

Are you implying Mozilla paid AccuWeather to have placement on it’s browser?

No, AccuWeather paid Mozilla. Mozilla sold the data to AccuWeather. Mozilla made money.

CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 00:42 next collapse

Have you got a source that shows that data of FF users actually went to AccuWeather or is this purely speculation?

ExtravagantEnzyme@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 01:13 collapse

Why would Mozilla pay AccuWeather in user data? This would cut into their revenue and be horrendous press. Doing so makes no sense, legit entirely illogical. AccuWeather paid to get placement on the new tabs page. But, if you’re this worried about it and haven’t spent time in about:config to prevent fingerprinting, tracking, and location data collection, start there for sure. Either way, this seems like a huge stretch and wouldn’t make sense for Mozilla try and pull off.

solrize@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 02:31 collapse

I think you are saying Mozilla sold tabs screen placement to Accuweather, which means Accuweather gets user IP addresses (and therefore approximate location among other things) when the user launches the browser. So I guess the answer to OP question is yes.

And yes, opt-out is possible, but a pro-privacy approach would require opt in.

ExtravagantEnzyme@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 03:55 collapse

Oh, I see, I interpreted the statement as Mozilla handing over previously collected user data as payment for getting AccuWeather’s widget.

However, any webpage visited in a bowser provides this info. So if you haven’t stopped it happening from the get, you’re handing this data over in mass. But thanks for clearing that up for me!

solrize@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 04:37 collapse

Sure. Normally I think of visiting a site in a browser as navigating to that site on purpose. If Mozilla sells placement in the browser so that the browser navigates to that site automatically (unless you disable that), it’s invasive. That said I do remember Mozilla sets the default start page to something annoying and I had to reconfigure it to about:blank when I set up the system.

TwilightKiddy@programming.dev on 04 Sep 00:14 next collapse

They are probably just using your IP address to determine the location. That will show the location of your ISP, not your location. That’s not much more info than any other server gets when you are connecting to it. Also does not require Mozilla to send any geolocation data.

AeroLemming@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 00:41 collapse

Yeah, I hope so. Them buying an advertising company and then pulling this shit has got me feeling paranoid.

davel@lemmy.ml on 04 Sep 01:27 next collapse

I wouldn’t know.

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AeroLemming@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 04:42 collapse

I like the big search bar in the middle of my screen

helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 01:47 next collapse

This is an Intresting one. I’m curious what the deal was.

Assuming accuweather is paying Firefox, thats probably a good thing because Firefox definatly needs to diversify its income.

I wonder what exactly AccuWeather gets. Is only for more web traffic (which is significant) or is it something else?

AeroLemming@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 04:42 collapse

That’s a great question. I couldn’t find anything online, presumably because it just happened.

TachyonTele@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 02:09 next collapse

It’s not on my browser.

AeroLemming@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 04:41 collapse

It might be regional.

tiredofsametab@fedia.io on 04 Sep 04:00 next collapse

I just updated firefox and am not seeing it anywhere, including on the new tab page before I type in a URL or something.

AeroLemming@lemm.ee on 04 Sep 04:41 collapse

It might be regional.

MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world on 04 Sep 04:01 collapse

Just use Librewolf + Mullvad with extensions. Problem solved