Banning TikTok Won’t Keep Your Data Safe | Pompous billionaires, authoritarian regimes, and opaque oligarchs are hoarding our data. Only an alternative online ecosystem will stop them. (foreignpolicy.com)
from Bakersfield@lemmy.world to privacy@lemmy.ml on 30 Aug 11:43
https://lemmy.world/post/19218127

cross-posted from: slrpnk.net/post/12778902

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coolusername@lemmy.ml on 30 Aug 11:47 next collapse

tiktok is CIA www.mintpressnews.com/…/280336/

autonomoususer@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 12:38 next collapse

First ban Discord or Instagram.

You know they won’t cos they don’t give a shit about our privacy, about us.

delirious_owl@discuss.online on 31 Aug 02:59 collapse

Don’t ban anything. Pass legislation to protect data rights and make them all safe platforms.

fart_pickle@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 13:06 next collapse

No need to duplicate my comment - lemmy.world/comment/12073034

Steve@communick.news on 30 Aug 13:50 next collapse

First, it’s not a TickTok ban. It’s a ByteDance ban. ByteDance could sell TickTok to another company outside China and TickTock would be fine in the US.

Second, it was never about protecting user data. It was about preventing China from tweaking the algorithm to try to subtly influence public political opinion, instead of maximizing generic rage and political polarization, to exploit for ad dollars.

Anonymouse@lemmy.world on 30 Aug 14:14 next collapse

You’re exactly right on both counts. When you hear it from politicians, the sound bite (byte?) is “to protect the children” which is ambiguous. I take it to mean to protect the data of my children, somebody else takes it to mean to protect my children from being brainwashed and the children running the social media companies take it to mean it’s protecting their right to wealth. It’s win win win!

If the US govn’t were serious about protecting people, they’d implement GDPR and put data privacy into the hands of the individual.

winterayars@sh.itjust.works on 30 Aug 15:43 collapse

Yet nobody cares about US companies like Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube manipulating public opinion with their algorithms.

Steve@communick.news on 30 Aug 17:24 next collapse

Nobody cares because they are US companies.

would_be_appreciated@lemmy.ml on 30 Aug 17:32 collapse

Seems bizarre that people are okay with public opinion being explicitly manipulated by a very small group of people with very little overlapping interest with the public, but not okay with public opinion being explicitly manipulated by a very small group of people with very little overlapping interest with the public from a foreign country.

Steve@communick.news on 30 Aug 17:41 collapse

Not really. One can be dealt with if needs be, since they’re US companies. The other can’t because it’s the Chinese government.

southsamurai@sh.itjust.works on 30 Aug 19:00 next collapse

Plenty of people care, just not enough

Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world on 31 Aug 00:43 next collapse

This isnt the point.

An adverserial nation shouldnt be able to influence public opinion like that.

We all understand that those companies do nefarious things. Imo its quite a bit different when its a whole ass country purposefully manipulating public opinion and they dont like the united states.

winterayars@sh.itjust.works on 31 Aug 00:49 collapse

I get it, i don’t want to live in China but i don’t want to live in whatever Elon Musk has planned for the US, either, and his wealth gives him undue influence over… pretty much everything. You’re not convincing me you’ve got a consistent take here if you’re cool with Twitter but not TikTok.

delirious_owl@discuss.online on 31 Aug 02:58 collapse

Yes we do

foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml on 30 Aug 14:14 next collapse

If you want to really make a change do not ban anything just stop advertise it and promote it. The people next will switch to privacy alternatives. It’s not the TikTok fault it is the society fault. Meaning there is one solution and it’s to change massively the society

Ilandar@aussie.zone on 30 Aug 14:26 next collapse

As I said last time this was shared, the article isn’t really about TikTok - that is only used as a recent example of why these big proprietary datasets are problematic. The main point of the article is really to explain why we need an alternative and how it could work, using the example of Getgee. I wish more people would read past headlines, especially for interesting articles such as this one.

kbal@fedia.io on 30 Aug 17:04 next collapse

New idea for a web service: Give it the url of an article decrying the sorry state of corporate social media and hyping up some zany theoretical alternative that nobody's heard of, and it tells you whether or not the author gives any hint of having heard of the fediverse.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 30 Aug 17:32 next collapse

How about we just create some laws governing data collection and addictive behaviors? It shouldn’t just apply to a few companies either it should be a simple policy that everyone must follow. It also needs to relatively easy to understand and clearly documented on how to be compliant

SplashJackson@lemmy.ca on 30 Aug 20:23 next collapse

Should ban data collection, even if it breaks the current e-commerce paradigm

delirious_owl@discuss.online on 31 Aug 02:56 collapse

I don’t see why that would break e-commerce at all. It would only make it better

delirious_owl@discuss.online on 31 Aug 02:57 collapse

Is this whole article literally just 1 sentence?!?