Is anaconda download page considered dark pattern?
from inspxtr@lemmy.world to privacy@lemmy.ml on 12 Jul 2024 05:52
https://lemmy.world/post/17472550
from inspxtr@lemmy.world to privacy@lemmy.ml on 12 Jul 2024 05:52
https://lemmy.world/post/17472550
It’s been a while since I last downloaded anaconda. But I remember when clicking on the download page, it would show the usual “choose your OS > download binary” (eg this archived version in 2019).
Recently I helped someone else set it up and it showed a form to put on email, with smaller gray text near the bottom of the form about skipping it.
Does this count as a dark pattern?
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Yes and also not sure why you’d use Anaconda. What’s wrong with plain regular Python?
thanks for confirming my suspicion. as for your question, conda in general is good for installing non-python binaries when needed, and managing env. I don’t use anaconda but it provides a good enough interface for beginners and folks without much coding experience. It’s usually the easiest to use that than other variants for them, or the python route of setting up environments
github.com/conda-forge/miniforge with mamba is so much better
Conda package manager is like pip on steroids. It’s great for science, especially when working on Linux servers where you don’t have root
What’s the benefit over pip in a venv?
Conda environments can encapsulate more than just Python packages, it brings the pip/venv model to the ecosystems of many languages (R, Go, etc.), and does so at the user level rather than in a folder for one project. The other Anaconda stuff is pretty useless IMO, but Conda is exceptionally useful. Although I would echo what the other commentor said that the mambaforge version is even better than vanilla miniconda
Pip in a venv doesn’t get you non python tools.
Conda also has venvs, for seperate environments for stuff as well.
They hit two dark patterns out of a possible seven.
I should make a browser plug-in that finds dark patterns and reverses them.
can you clarify on the 7?
First two: using color and button size/placement to guide clicks
The ones they didn’t do:
thanks for clarifying! that’s really helpful!
That’d be a big NOPE from me.
“NOPE” as in “not a dark pattern” or as in “I’m not touching this site”? if former, can you clarify on the reason?
Sorry, I meant I wouldn’t touch it.
gotcha, thanks for clarifying :)
For those dark pattern email boxes I like entering things like admin@[website that’s serving a dark pattern mailbox] or marketing@website because 50% of the time it just gives me whatever without any trouble and the other 50% of the time I clear cookies and consider if I really need whatever they’re gating behind harvesting my email…
haha nice. I’ll try that next time
This is such a great idea lol
That is a great alternative to sfgdgsgshajdjajshags@gmail.com, I’ll also feel less bad about accidentally hitting a real email.
I never expected anyone to guess my address. Thanks a lot.
I like yaya@erewhon.com (sorry to the admin, it means nowhere, I assume it’s like /dev/null) Just like everyone should be using 01/01/1970 for a birthdate
Please stop doxxing me. JK but I use 01/01/1980 for some reason.
It clearly says: Skip Registration. Don’t see how this counts as a Dark Pattern.
Guess you're... in the dark about it
https://i.imgur.com/0Wrkq3P.png
“clearly” lmao
lmao maybe OP meant so invisible as to be transparent. "clear"ly
Yes. This is a dark pattern.
Absolutely. I didn’t spot the link for skipping registration until someone pointed it out.
No, because you can skip it.