Is anaconda download page considered dark pattern?
from inspxtr@lemmy.world to privacy@lemmy.ml on 12 Jul 2024 05:52
https://lemmy.world/post/17472550

It’s been a while since I last downloaded anaconda. But I remember when clicking on the download page, it would show the usual “choose your OS > download binary” (eg this archived version in 2019).

Recently I helped someone else set it up and it showed a form to put on email, with smaller gray text near the bottom of the form about skipping it.

Does this count as a dark pattern?

#privacy

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Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me on 12 Jul 2024 05:57 next collapse

Yes and also not sure why you’d use Anaconda. What’s wrong with plain regular Python?

inspxtr@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 06:04 next collapse

thanks for confirming my suspicion. as for your question, conda in general is good for installing non-python binaries when needed, and managing env. I don’t use anaconda but it provides a good enough interface for beginners and folks without much coding experience. It’s usually the easiest to use that than other variants for them, or the python route of setting up environments

Gebruikersnaam@lemmy.ml on 12 Jul 2024 08:28 collapse

github.com/conda-forge/miniforge with mamba is so much better

bionicjoey@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 2024 12:52 collapse

Conda package manager is like pip on steroids. It’s great for science, especially when working on Linux servers where you don’t have root

ftbd@feddit.de on 12 Jul 2024 15:35 collapse

What’s the benefit over pip in a venv?

bionicjoey@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 2024 16:17 next collapse

Conda environments can encapsulate more than just Python packages, it brings the pip/venv model to the ecosystems of many languages (R, Go, etc.), and does so at the user level rather than in a folder for one project. The other Anaconda stuff is pretty useless IMO, but Conda is exceptionally useful. Although I would echo what the other commentor said that the mambaforge version is even better than vanilla miniconda

moonpiedumplings@programming.dev on 12 Jul 2024 16:54 collapse

Pip in a venv doesn’t get you non python tools.

Conda also has venvs, for seperate environments for stuff as well.

adespoton@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 2024 06:00 next collapse

They hit two dark patterns out of a possible seven.

I should make a browser plug-in that finds dark patterns and reverses them.

inspxtr@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 06:06 collapse

can you clarify on the 7?

adespoton@lemmy.ca on 12 Jul 2024 06:39 collapse

First two: using color and button size/placement to guide clicks

The ones they didn’t do:

  • Misdirection of reason for interacting with elements
  • pre-selecting the checkbox
  • making the background elements a clickbox
  • using colors to scare user into a certain action
  • using text to scare user into a certain action
inspxtr@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 06:57 collapse

thanks for clarifying! that’s really helpful!

wesker@lemmy.sdf.org on 12 Jul 2024 06:14 next collapse

That’d be a big NOPE from me.

inspxtr@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 06:28 collapse

“NOPE” as in “not a dark pattern” or as in “I’m not touching this site”? if former, can you clarify on the reason?

wesker@lemmy.sdf.org on 12 Jul 2024 06:43 collapse

Sorry, I meant I wouldn’t touch it.

inspxtr@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 06:55 collapse

gotcha, thanks for clarifying :)

Trainguyrom@reddthat.com on 12 Jul 2024 06:37 next collapse

For those dark pattern email boxes I like entering things like admin@[website that’s serving a dark pattern mailbox] or marketing@website because 50% of the time it just gives me whatever without any trouble and the other 50% of the time I clear cookies and consider if I really need whatever they’re gating behind harvesting my email…

inspxtr@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 06:56 next collapse

haha nice. I’ll try that next time

GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml on 12 Jul 2024 09:06 next collapse

This is such a great idea lol

missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 12 Jul 2024 11:43 next collapse

That is a great alternative to sfgdgsgshajdjajshags@gmail.com, I’ll also feel less bad about accidentally hitting a real email.

lars@lemmy.sdf.org on 13 Jul 2024 04:21 collapse

I never expected anyone to guess my address. Thanks a lot.

MalReynolds@slrpnk.net on 13 Jul 2024 04:33 collapse

I like yaya@erewhon.com (sorry to the admin, it means nowhere, I assume it’s like /dev/null) Just like everyone should be using 01/01/1970 for a birthdate

WhiteBerry@lemmy.ml on 16 Jul 2024 00:55 collapse

Please stop doxxing me. JK but I use 01/01/1980 for some reason.

fubarx@lemmy.ml on 12 Jul 2024 07:14 next collapse

It clearly says: Skip Registration. Don’t see how this counts as a Dark Pattern.

subignition@fedia.io on 12 Jul 2024 08:14 next collapse

Guess you're... in the dark about it

https://i.imgur.com/0Wrkq3P.png

doodledup@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 11:16 collapse

“clearly” lmao

Tangent5280@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 14:40 collapse

lmao maybe OP meant so invisible as to be transparent. "clear"ly

LodeMike@lemmy.today on 12 Jul 2024 07:44 next collapse

Yes. This is a dark pattern.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world on 12 Jul 2024 10:30 next collapse

Absolutely. I didn’t spot the link for skipping registration until someone pointed it out.

DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml on 12 Jul 2024 17:43 collapse

No, because you can skip it.