GrapheneOS Foundation To Never Required ID or Other PII To Use GrapheneOS (grapheneos.social)
from KindnessInfinity@lemmy.ml to privacy@lemmy.ml on 20 Mar 21:32
https://lemmy.ml/post/44781643

cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/44781501

GrapheneOS will remain usable by anyone around the world without requiring personal information, identification or an account. GrapheneOS and our services will remain available internationally. If GrapheneOS devices can’t be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it.

#privacy

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Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip on 20 Mar 22:27 next collapse

Now we just need to see how different distros handle it

ISOmorph@feddit.org on 21 Mar 01:10 collapse

Just saw a report yesterday that systemd will implement age verification, meaning it might not be up to the distros.

xvertigox@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 03:00 next collapse

Time to replace systemd, I guess.

ramenu@lemmy.ml on 21 Mar 03:09 next collapse

Easiest solution is to just fork it rather than replacing it entirely

MalReynolds@slrpnk.net on 21 Mar 03:20 collapse

nah, patch it out if it becomes an issue (x doubt)

TrippinMallard@lemmy.ml on 21 Mar 05:07 collapse

May go the Gentoo route. majority of my friends use that as their primary os. peer pressure + compiling your OS is fun

penguin@lemmy.pixelpassport.studio on 21 Mar 06:57 collapse

I just did that yesterday, definitely a more involved setup but I really like it so far. I wanted to ditch systemd for a few reasons but this recent news finally gave me the motivation.

adespoton@lemmy.ca on 21 Mar 04:16 next collapse

Might not be up to the distros?

Most distros already have a non-systemd variant out there.

And systemd is also open source; if age verification is baked in, people can just modify it to always return a positive result.

LordCrom@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 04:43 next collapse

Time to go back to init.d

magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 21 Mar 05:22 next collapse

Its just storing a date you tell it is your birthday. Nothing more than an age gate that can easily be lied to.

Honestly just have your distro zero accounts out to 00:00:00-1970-01-01 by default.

Fmstrat@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 23:26 collapse

No, they won’t. They added an age field to the user profile, right next to name, etc. It’s there in case systems want to use it.

harsh3466@lemmy.ml on 20 Mar 22:32 next collapse

Fuck yeah Graphene.

RiQuY@lemmy.zip on 21 Mar 01:02 next collapse

That’s the bare minimum I expect from them.

root@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 06:06 next collapse

Based

DannyMac@sh.itjust.works on 21 Mar 07:48 next collapse

What are they going to do when these states hand over a list of violations at $7,500 per violation?

AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip on 21 Mar 08:33 next collapse

Are the devs even in a jurisdiction where that matters? Given they’re working on a project specifically focused on privacy and security, even if they are in such a jurisdiction, are they actually traceable, or have they been obfuscating their identity with tools like Tor? It might not be enforceable.

ijhoo@lemmy.ml on 21 Mar 08:57 collapse

there is a company behind, so they can be identified… but, the foundation is in Canada, so probably California law doesn’t apply to them. unless they start to sell their products in California. not a lawyer so I don’t know for sure how those things work…

AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip on 21 Mar 09:18 next collapse

Ah, yeah, then they can’t be touched unless Canada passes something stupid, too. Which in the general global political climate… Isn’t impossible. But they may just geoblock California and other jurisdictions with similar laws so they can have plausible deniability. Of course, users could circumvent that entirely a dozen different ways, especially those technically inclined enough to install GrapheneOS, so I’m not sure how much it would really hurt them.

mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works on 21 Mar 14:28 collapse

unless they start to sell their products in California

Good thing it’s free software

ki9@lemmy.gf4.pw on 21 Mar 09:11 collapse

Hopefully, what 4chan did.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/c624330lg1ko

Just checked, Graphene is a registered non-profit in Canada.

kamayatu24@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 09:21 next collapse

Everyone says so. And then I change the rules

Kkk2237pl@lemmy.world on 21 Mar 17:14 collapse

Dont forget to donate your open source…