Well too bad for the advertisers cause I don’t see any of what they’re spending money on

Don’t forget; sports events. Even the Olympics don’t exist without ads. Adds rule the world (unfortunately). It gets problematic when your privacy gets compromised.

Your business model is not my problem.

Especially when plenty of profitable services add this shit anyway.

I’m old enough to remember when network television didn’t cut important scenes from shows in order to show me commercials.

If these businesses are getting so much efficiency from laying off their employees, why do they need increasingly more advertising?

I doubt there are enough of us who block (when it is even possible) to seriously affect revenue.

Also, if they can break their contract with me to pay for a service with no commercials and force me to watch them anyway, I have no compunctions with denying them the extra profit.

Oh no!

If they can’t exist without ads then it’s time to die

Oh no

Anyway

Such a small share of ad-revenue goes to creators it’s not worth it. You lose in wasting time, getting your brain turned to mush and getting manipulated by the ads. It costs less to support the creators directly.

I just wish there were easier ways to do so. Something decentralised with all the creators where I could fix an amount per month to spend on content creation and getting it split between what I appreciated.

idk about other languages, but in Portuguese it’s literally the same word

advertising is forcing you to pay with your time and attention. I started hating all kinds of ads when I first flew with Ryanair. There aren’t headphones big enough to withstand two and a half hours of uninterrupted bullshit

Brain r ape. I do not consent.

The cause is to separate you from your money and time. To reinforce and promote capital as the ultimate gatekeepers.

Same, glad to hear there are others who found the path free from these parasites :)

Until, you know, you went outside.

I would like to know more about this Internet radio command line thingy

That seems like it opens the door to a lot of security issues. Part of the reason to use uBlock is that ads are a known threat vector.

It’s a cute idea, but they would just incorporate some amount of false clicks into their metrics.

Except it still rewards the site for hosting ads in the first place

I’ve never had it actually collect an ad

Do you know if AdNauseum actively merges in new uBlock Origin changes, or is it fully forked?

I prefer using Pi-Hole (DNS based block) the ads don’t even waste my bandwith.

Yet another reason we need to move away from cars. Since the distraction is likely not going away, we need to minimize the safety/distraction issue.

(Goddamn we need so much high speed rail, and yesterday)

Nice point if view. Ironically we live in times when minding others boundaries is almost common sense. Abusive behavior gets public contempt. But everyone is just accepting manipulative, malicious and intrusive ads.

There’s a giant, glowing, animated LED billboard along a main road near my house that had a PSA about distracted driving on it the other day. It made me angry.

I mean, it blows my mind that people were excited to watch the Super Bowl at all. The advertisements are often the best part, given that the game itself is so mired in interruptions - often to deliberately increase the amount of air time for ads.

Yah but the ads during the Super Bowl are usually interesting and fun and I don’t mind them.

Which begs the question, why aren’t all ads fun and interesting? I’ve seen some YT channels make them this way and it makes them far more palletable.

I think there is an American ritual aspect to it. I hate football and never watch it other than the super bowl. I’ve always just watched it for the funny ads, halftime show, and social gathering aspect. There is nostalgia for the 90s-00s where funny Superbowl ads became cultural touchstones, and early “memes” that people would quote and talk about the rest of the year if not more. Though honestly, it feels like the mojo is gone. The ads rarely seem as funny as they used to be. Or maybe we are just so inundated with internet ads and the lightspeed meme cycle that they simply can’t draw the same level of cultural relevance they once did.

Not just personal mind poison, but societal poison too.

i came to realize this when when my home built router died a few months ago.

it was based on pfsense and i had setup publicly shared advertisement blocking; so i hadn’t see any ad at all for years.

i became annoyed when i started seeing them after the router died and then i actively became angry when i was bombarded by them while watching tv as i was visiting family, yet they didn’t think anything was wrong with watching the same mcdonalds advertisement 500x in a single hour.

that shit has an impact on your psyche whether you know right away or not.

You’re not wrong. But as you said yourself, this only applies to your own hardware. Some of us do engage in this weird thing called “going outside”, with some taking it as far as not only going there to touch grass, but also meet other people (gross, I know).

In these situations, even I, an individual who has

• a private e-mail that is exactly that: private (through aliases and strict protocols as to who gets the root address)
• a physical mailbox mostly clean of ads because advertisers either do not get my address in the first place, or they get a friendly letter telling them where to shove their catalogues
• adblocker plugins in every browser
• hosts-based blocking on top of that and
• a network-wide DNS-based adblocker just for good measure,

even I, builder, king and prisoner of this privacy fortress, am exposed to ads when I occasionally leave it.

I see ads when my kid asks me to read out to him the contents of that colourful banner above the parking lot.

I see ads when I watch cable TV with my parents and they just let the ad break wash over them like a jovial stream of diarrhea.

I see ads when I go shopping and I cannot focus on my own thoughts because only a few metres away there’s an ad screen loudly announcing the technological marvels of Buddy’s Fully-automatic Butt Crack Scratcher to the world.

In these situations, I really feel the contents of that OP. I feel the brazen attempt to steal my attention when all I want is to be present. I feel the insult to my intelligence because some twat in marketing decided I’m unable to or unworthy of making my own decisions. And I feel the need to quell this frivolous invasion of my time and headspace.

And that’s why, in these situations, I take the liberty to turn off the shop’s TV while I’m there. I take my parent’s remote, mute the ad diarrhea and strike up a conversation. And I promise the kiddo to read him something proper once we get home, but not one of those stupid ads.

(We recently pulled up in front of another giant ad banner, and the little guy went: “Dad, that’s just another one of those stupid ads, right?” Imagine how proud dad was, seeing that another system-wide adblocker had been installed…)

Thanks for coming to my TED talk!

Mute button is on the right of the screen, second from the top.

Fucking hate those gas pump ads.

Almost drove off with the gas cap and door open on my car

I made it a habit to always glance in my side mirrors to confirm there’s nothing unexpected around me (including open doors or connected gas nozzles) before shifting out of park every time. Granted best practice is to walk around the car once as an inspection before even starting it every time, but that’s more than I often can be bothered to do

You can try invidious instances like yewtu.be

Invidious is an alternative front end for youtube that allows you to watch videos without ads or other tracking. And it’s self hostable. But the public instances work just fine - I actually have issues with YouTube stalling constantly, I assume because of my ad/script blockers. But going to yewtu.be/watch?v=(youtube video code) allows me to watch in HD with zero ads or interruptions.

Youtube does try to fight it, so it occasionally will break, but just like Ublock, Invidious has talented people on the team fighting back.

There’s also a firefox extension for auto redirect: addons.mozilla.org/en-US/…/invidious-redirect-2/

I use Firefox with Ublock Origin on Android, and if I watch youtube in the browser, it filters pretty much all ads. Sometimes I get one at the start of a video, but closing the tab and starting again has got rid of them so far 👍

Mind you that, if you have to make a mental note, they have won.

Yep I actively avoid companies that inundate me. I’ve switched insurance companies because of it (local agent got me much better rates too).

The worse the product is, the more desperate they get to shove it in your face. Good products don’t need to pay others to pretend it’s good, you just find out via word-of-mouth or free trials

People say this but, if advertising didn’t work, companies would have stopped paying for ads long time ago. It works for them, we view ads and then we are willing to pay more for a product that is worth less; it’s this simple.

The only solution for us is to avoid ads at all cost.

Yep. One must move beyond an “I hate you and I hope you die” relationship with ads, to a “I don’t think about you at all” relationship with ads. Regardless of how many fits Google throws about ublock, one can always do VPN/DNS type filtering. I’ve honestly almost forgotten ads exist.

I will happily leaf through the adverts in my gardening and cannabis magazines.

Except we are beginning to not own what we own. The computer is yours, the software is just licensed, and they are trying to take everything away from us, from ovens to washing machines, they want to make it all subscription, spying on us, and serving us ads. We don’t have the right to repair the products when we break, and it’s a federal felony to “break” any sort of digital lock on a device, and I think to change it’s programming too.

That said, it’s a moot point as of yet, because while websites forced me to whitelist their sites to use them when I had adblock, I was told about ublockorigin, and I see no ads, and the sites can’t tell I am using it.

Thats fair if you also hold the stance that they can block you if you aren’t paying to use the service. But i doubt you do.

I always and will also try to give websites 1 try.

If I like your content on your site you get 1 try to show ads and if they are not offensively placed and not playing audio… you get to live

“Hey this thing is here” and “have this problem try this” are useful enough that even without paid ads people make that content.

The lifestyle manipulation, feeding unfounded fears, biases, anxieties, and rage for almost anyone reason is evil to me.

Back in the good-ish days of reddit, they had ads that I actually appreciated. They were clearly labeled as ads and had a different color, were at the top of the feed only, so once you scrolled past the first one you were done, and we’re essentially just sticky promoted posts, so they had comment sections.

You could find honest reviews of the products in the ads. Shills we’re identified and down voted into oblivion, so the real shit tended to land on top. It encouraged advertisers who actually had quality products on offer and who understood their audience. They were the only online ads that ever led directly to me buying a product.

There is this little community here on Lemmy focussing on vintage german ads:

/c/die_reklame@feddit.org

Ads have changed, but those ads telling you that your body is ugly and that you need $product to change it are old and have been around since the 19th century and the beginnings of modern advertisements. It is also quite interesting how old some of the usual scams are. There are currently people on TikTok scamming people with some method invented in the 1800s

For me the problem use to be it having gone from “Our product is great and here’s why” style of adverts to the psychological manipulation shit (image of beautiful woman seducing handsome man, queue name of perfume).

I’m fine with people trying to convince me but detest when they try to manipulate me.

However the recent tendency to relentlessly shove it in front of me ALL THE TIME does get on my nerves - it’s like getting constantly harassed by a shameless salesman with no respect for other people.

Pacified by $$$ signs. Counter culture doesn’t pay for Bezos next yacht.

The deluge of gambling, crypto currency, GLP, and AI ads only make me hate those things more.

Our smart TV doesn’t allow an ad blocker on YouTube, but my kids have developed a way to skip ads anyway. They don’t tolerate ads more than I do, and I couldn’t be prouder.

My wife initially hated my piholes, because they broke some of her phone’s stuff. She runs stock Samsung Android, so lots of the built in Google stuff got broken. She was constantly complaining about it. We eventually spent an evening hunt-and-peck’ing the various blocked DNS requests, to see which ones were required for her phone to work properly, and which ones were just Google Adsense BS. Got her set up with a WireGuard VPN connection that automatically activates when she’s disconnected from the home WiFi, so she’s always protected.

Now that she’s used to it, it’s like a wake up slap whenever she encounters ads. We moved a while ago, and all of my more advanced networking stuff (including the pihole) was sitting in a box until I had time to set it all up. She suddenly started seeing ads again, and was absolutely gobsmacked at how pervasive they are. What really sent her over the edge was when our Roku TV was paused, and went to its idle screen. The idle screen is an auto-scrolling image, and it had an ad plastered across the scrolling image. She was like “what the fuck we’re not even watching anything right now! It’s just idle! Why the hell are they advertising to us on the damned idle screen??” That was what finally pushed her to give me an evening to set all of the networking stuff back up.

Have you tried reaching out to YouTubers who review/play through similar games to yours? Can you buy an ad read from some youtubers as a less intrusive style of ad? Do you have a demo at all that you can point people to right now?

snapcraft.io/calaboka

You are a person of culture, and I respectfully tip my hat to you. Of course, the question left unanswered is: Did it blend?

How long did it take to un-break basically every website? I tried doing this and it made pretty much every site that had this problem unusable. I could never find a sweetspot that only blocks ads and let’s legitimate traffic through; and it caused issues with my partner’s work portals.

Add stremio to this. (+ the torrentio extension)

Advertisers deserve the wall.

And/Or: Take a higher ground.

Allow them the autonomy they seek to deprive others.

Like Bill Hicks offered, www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0 they realise the error of their ways, and they do it themselves.

…’ Saved me anyway. One less advertiser in the world. One more anti-advertising advocate in the world. :) A +2 gain, at no expense of arranging a wall and firing squad. ;)

Have you installed Bonzi Buddy yet?

Its crazy how much people put up with it every time I see someone elses browser I ask them why they dont use an ad blocker and I always gets some nothing reply.

Filterlist mainteiners are GOAT

Besides, clothing without logos is more expensive than others.

I made it a point to never wear or use anything with obvious logos most of my life. Want me to tell people my shirt is nike. pay me!

Somewhat relevant are the Subvertisers for London (as well as similar groups all over the world):

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/6ebafb17-98cf-47aa-97a8-debc7d0020e0.jpeg">

“but youtube generates my music playlists because it knows what i like”

It’s becoming best practice in IT to install uBlock Origin on browsers to help prevent scareware

True. I remember two ads specifically in my country that pissed me off so much I vowed to never purchase anything from their company. Both were phone service providers.

One was an ad where the guy gets the message of the ad out in 5 seconds and then the rest of the ad is him sitting in silence for 25 additional seconds, eating some food. That ad pissed me off enough to contact the company and let them know what I thought.

The second was this stupid bint sitting in a pink room, smugly wringing her hands and going: Oooh, you really want to get to your video, don’t you? Here it comes! 🤪

I was like: I don’t give a fuck if your phone service provider is the best in the galaxy. I will never use it ever.

Technically I have a third ad that made me despise charity for life, but that was before the time where ads online were what they are today and this ad did not show up online. I’ll tell the story anyways because this is the type of ad that every charity should avoid if they want people to donate:

Rewind to 2012. My boyfriend and I were dirt poor. Literally had to borrow money from our parents to have enough for food. He was a full time student and I was sick with a mean depression at the time.

We get some birthday money. I forget who it was from and who it was for. Normally, we would spend birthday money to pay bills but this time there was a tiny bit left over and we decided to go to the cinema for once. Have a date night. We only had enough for tickets. No snacks. No drinks. Just the tickets, but we didn’t care because the fact that we got to go to the movies felt like a massive luxury.

Ads pop up on the big screen. One of them is this close up of an African child with flies on his face, looking real sad. Across his face a text appears: “How much was your movie ticket?”

That singlehandedly made me boycott that specific charity for life. Fuck them forever. Worst part is that i used to actually volunteer for that charity and help them collect money by going door to door once a year with a friend. We collected so much money for those assholes. Haven’t bothered with volunteering since. It wasn’t solely that ad that turned me off charity, but a series of gross experiences that just made me fucking hate charity and the vultures who use it to scrape money from normal everyday people who think they are helping little impoverished children in third world countries.

I have seen similar charity ads on social media after the terminally online realized that there is a neverending war in Gaza. So many ads with obvious scammers prematurely blaming you for skipping their ad and leaving them to suffer. My reaction? 🖕👁👅👁🖕

There for sure are good and honorable charities out there and I have no ill will towards them, but I see the vast majority of charities as guilt tripping scams where they try their best to make people feel ashamed for being born in a privileged country and wringing money out of them while exploiting children in poor countries who will never see a dime.

In short: I hate ads too and the more they annoy me, the more their company or charity ends on my permanent shit list.

This 100%. I have so many brands in my black list to never consider after happening to get interrupted by their ad, not even neccessarily a dumb ad. Reoccurring ones do that quite effectively too: Seeing an ad once is maybe no biggie (unless it’s long/dumb), twice starts to annoy, three times and you’re out.

thnx for advertising those to us.

/jk

Another word for “marketing” or “advertisement” is Manipulation.

Don’t worry they’ve solved that, it’s called 🩷 𝐼𝓃𝒻𝓁𝓊𝑒𝓃𝒸𝒾𝓃𝑔 😎. That’s much less ominous! They just influence!

Well said. It disgusts me a lot, and it also dismays me to see a lot of people don’t care at all about ads. I even rememeber people in my old job talking about ads on tv. Boggles my mind.

If I am forced to see or interact with an ad I will do absolutely everything in my power to excise that ad source from my life.

It’s been a minute so I could be misremembering, but you’re not far off. Another word for public relations (the shaping of public opinion) is propaganda.

Edward Bearnays wrote a book titled Propaganda, where he talks about the need to rebrand the work of Propagandist after it became associated with negative influence during WW2. From what I recall he used the term public relations, but seemed to prefer the term propaganda.

He’s also the person infamous for convincing Americans that we should eat bacon and eggs for breakfast. Another interesting story is about how he advertised to make music rooms in homes trendy, so he could help sell more pianos.

He talks about some of the early manipulation tactics advertisers use. Such as trying to sell you an experience instead of a product. Think of how modern car commercials show a lifestyle more than they show you the car.

It’s an enlightening book that shows that before the war, calling an advertiser a propagandist wouldn’t be out of place. Those propagandist manipulated us into calling the PR now.

Oh, and if I recall correctly propaganda comes from Latin and means “to propagate.”

That’s not the case entirely, at least in my case. When I’m forced to watch ads when using the official YouTube app in one of my smart tvs, I’ve built habit to click mute and grab my phone. There’s usually just right amount of time to fex reply a message. Within the edge of my vision I can still see the timer changing to Next or Skip prompting me to get back to the video. No doubt they will soon make that less obvious…

The Super Bowl commercial with the Backstreet Boys and MGK was nostalgic and funny. Generally I find most ads annoying and block them or avoid the sites/channels where they show up.

I mean, it sounds like they’re not even running an ad blocker. That’s not even an effectively defensive relationship.

Grayjay is better than PipePipe. I use Freetube on my computer. SmartTube is the best. I love that app so much.

Same here. Glad to hear, that I’m not the only one.

That balance is practically impossible now. If you respect people’s attention, you will lose that attention to some other advertiser who does not.

that’s the worst kind of advertisements; especially the subtle ones.

No kidding.

Like most of my streamimg is the cheaper ad versions, regular commwrcuals, usually not meaningful, sometimes a bathroom break.

My daughter watches Youtube for music sometimes on the TV though. Good god those are the WORST “ads”. So many try to be like 10 minutes long unless you skip. Many feel like some random peraon reading from a card, production quality all around is ass.

I can’t change the DNS on the router or TV and keep meaning to set up a new router to block the TV ads through DNS.

Advertising isn’t inherently negative

Advertising is capitalist propaganda meant to shape the way you think. How you think about things, your life, your community, your sense of self, and your worth. It is a form of manipulation meant to squeeze every penny out of you. It is meant to warp your mind into that of a consumer, to convince you that capitalism is the best way of organizing an economy and that if you don’t have the shiniest new toy, this is a personal and moral failure.

If you think, “that’s nonsense, they are just trying to sell me something,” consider this: if before every movie, show, and news broadcast there was an ad saying, “Our government in the best government. Be happy you live here. This is as good as it gets. Do not fret the bad parts of our society, just appreciate that you live in the best country in the world (or else),” would you consider this to be negative?

The central premise of most advertising is the deeply capitalist idea that your identity and worth as a person is primarily determined, not by who you are and what you do, but by what you own and by the commodities you buy. An inherent part of advertisement is a lack of respect for the audience. You and your time are viewed as commodities themselves!

Propaganda in itself is not negative, but it definitely can be. Advertisements are often composed of lying propaganda. They make false claims and normalize lies in our media, they normalize the acceptance of lies by numbing the population to these tactics. They make you look and feel foolish for calling out their lies and this extends throughout society.

Who are you going to believe, the boring science hippies who want you to read their papers or the suave, sexy commercial that promises to make your life better?

All of this ties into our society, culture, and how we behave as a people. If you don’t think it extends beyond taking our money from us, then how do you explain all the body dysmorphia that begins at a young age and extends throughout our lives? I’m too fat, too bald, too short, too sweaty, I’m too tan, my vitiligo is unattractive, my hair is too frizzy and too thin, my glasses are unattractive, I need to treat my wrinkles, fix my nose, remove the bags under my eyes, and cover up my unseemly stretch marks. These dysmorphic feelings all stem from you being treated like a commodity. They permeate our society and media.

Advertisements don’t just tell you how you should look, they also tell you what you should eat, what medications you should take, what car you should drive, how your home should look, where you should be traveling, what type of work you should be doing, how rich you should be, and more.

The reason Westerners are the most propagandized people in the world is not due to the decaying education systems, the misrepresentation of history, or the lies told by politicians, but because of how ingrained advertisements are within our societies.

But don’t take it from me alone, entire books have been written on this subject and it’s a problem with roots back to the beginning of the 1900s and the World Wars.

So when you’re in a store or a restaurant that is playing the radio and an ad comes on you’ll walk around the entire commercial break with your fingers in your ears going, “lalalalala?”

Sure. Sure you do, buddy.

Hi, noob here.

What type of ads do routers with adblock manage to filter that normal browser extensions cannot? Thanks

The problem is the harm to small bloggers and creators that need ads to survive.

I recommend routing your browser around your router ad block by changing its DNS then using uBlock Origin to whitelist the sites you want to support. You can block third party cookies and fingerprinting to mitigate the tracking.

As much as these ads suck, they were not the problem. The problem was Reddit charging for using their API (which was a big problem for third party readers) in order to force you to view said ads.

Capitalism’s most basic promise was that businesses will create value and have positive influence on society because that will be the only way to generate revenue. Reality proves that it’s somehow more profitable to enshittify things.

YouTube has ads?

I love ads. They tell me exactly which sellers would rather spend money on manipulating consumers than making a better product.