Project 2025 wants to send you to prison for watching porn. Laws requiring ID to access NSFW sites have already made porn hard to access in many states. Your browser is next đ
from makeasnek@lemmy.ml to privacy@lemmy.ml on 15 Jul 2024 02:23
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from makeasnek@lemmy.ml to privacy@lemmy.ml on 15 Jul 2024 02:23
https://lemmy.ml/post/17994614
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Which part of âThe people who produce or distributeâ you donât understand??
What part of âPornography should be outlawedâ donât you understand. That also entails owning and viewing porn.
Outlawed isnât equal to prison, it could be just a penalty fee, so itâs not like if you see pornography you will go to jail like OP make it look.
Wokie sensationalism not too much different than west media propaganda tbh.
Holy fucking shit how have you not learned to shut your dumb redneck mouth after being downvoted of every one of your last 100 comments.
The dudes a troll mate. His name is BigBrother.
So, why should people be fined for watching porn? Why does christian puritan views be pushed to everyone? Party of small government my ass.
âItâs not that badâ isnât good enough. Why is that there, at all? Why should I somehow deserve to be in prison?
I believe itâs not for christian purities why some people are pushing this kind of stuff, I believe itâs more related to psychological effects, social relations and objectivation of people stuff.
Itâs not. Iâm sorry, but youâre wrong.
Heâs not just wrong. Heâs a conservative, which means heâs lying.
Oh well in that case itâs completely ok!
Howâs that boot taste?
If it actually does entail owning and viewing porn then the quote should match the claim. The document is like 1000 pages, if its in there then it needs to be quoted in the graphic.
Which part of 3 upvoted and 14 downvotes do you not understand.
Truthsocial.com please click this link and never come back
As a fellow furry porn enjoyer, nice projection m8
dude named The Big Brother defending this is just perfect.
Sending nudes to your partner counts as production and distribution of pornography
This obviously deserves the death penalty
As someone who has produced and distributed porn, go fuck yourself.
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If you are an American and care about privacy:
arm yourself
Yeah, Iâm gonna vote with my bullets. Itâs dramatically more effective. Who wants to stop me from seeing naughty bits so bad theyâll put their life on the line trying to come after me?
I mean, I left but I still have to file taxes, can't use any retirement plans in my current country (yay, PFICs), and otherwise get fucked by the government for daring to want to invest in my retirement. This is mostly why I still also vote.
Lol
Move to Canada.
Oh donât worry, weâve already implemented internet controls federally. They just are using the argument of âpromoting Candian contentâ
the party of âsmall government,â once again, wants the government to police everything you do with your own junk
Women: âFirst time?â
These laws are made to promote illegal porn sites.
And VPNs
@makeasnek @bob
https://awscommunity.social/@mastobit/112765672385284345
You donât need to mention people when replying to them.
itâs a reply from a Mastodon account, which automatically tags people youâre writing your reply to.
How annoying
more than half the conservatives would be in jail
Donât you worry, these laws wonât apply to them.
probably will to some degree, one of the key defining traits of fascism is to make the in-group smaller and smaller
Only the ones that nobody liked anyway. The least useful part of the social group will get purged first. Always does.
Thatâs what got me too. Itâs all pretty hilarious when put that way.
nothing to hide nothing to fear and anti-2A mofos when they read any part of project 2025
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Whats anti-2a?
Anti gun
2A is the second amendment.
Thanks, had no idea
Its easy to forget how the Blue Lives Matter crowd and the pro-2A crowd have some crazy overlap given how suicidal it is to be seen with anything vaguely shaped like a gun when youâre anywhere near a cop.
go left enough and you get your guns back
Like the US will shut down a multi billion industry.
No, like Prohibition, everyone will keep some around, and the laws will only be enforced against non-whites, non-Christians and uppity women. Oh and gays are right out.
Theyâre already trying. Payment processors and big banks are increasingly refusing to do business with porn companies, and even sites that host nsfw artwork with no actual participants.
Project 2025 is 100% political and partisan. Due to that, there are false claims being made about Project 2025.
I condem the organization but not all statements are true due to itâs entirely political nature.
Wdym they literally have a massive PDF hosted on their website that you can download and read.
Politicos hate when you read their own words back to them
I really donât get the fearmongering around Project 2025. Itâs just a piece the Heritage Foundation released as a giant wishlist. Trump himself said he didnt support it over on Truth Social. And if congress is still split, there will be total gridlock, so even IF this was the official party platform, nothing would get done.
There is a lot of solid ideas in the document, but there is also a lot of hot dogwater.
As for porn, it is protected under the 1st amendment. There has been several court cases about this. If a law was passed, it would be challenged and likely struck down. Having said the most of the rhetoric in the document really points to the availability of books like Gender Queer being freely available in school libraries. This wasnât explicitly stated in the document, but you can draw conclusions from the context of the rhetoric. But yes one of the authors said they wanted porn banned.
Now, preventing kids from accessing porn is a reasonable ask, but this ask has to come with a measure of privacy. Nobody wants their ID floating around in a PornHub database being tied to the type of porn they watch.
Along the same lines, parents should have a say in what books their child is allowed to consume within reason. I read gender queer out of curiosity after all of the outrage about it. That book should not be free to grab by minors. Perhaps there should be a ârestricted sectionâ accessible via permission slip from the parents. That way the books can remain present and accessable to those whose parents say itâs okay. Itâs just an idea, but one that I have yet to see floated.
And heâs got a proven track record of honesty so no reason to doubt that.
Have you been living under a rock this year or just pretending to be unaware of how blatantly corrupt SCOTUS is?
Then they should consider spending some time parenting their children instead of shopping for red baseball caps, harassing school librarians, and consuming culture war propaganda.
Perhaps there are some false claims, but this isnât one of them. This is their proxy for making being openly gay illegal again because they consider any queer representation to be pornographic.
Nip it in the bud.
Watching Republicans ban 4chan would be funny.
Canada will be implementing very similar to this Poilievre gets elected.
My Phone would be considered nuclear waste in the US apparently⌠Oâ _â o
Donât forget that Republicans consider pretty much anything featuring gays as sexual and pornographic.
Streisand Effect here we⌠cum?
To everyone interested: Mullvad and IVPN accept XMR as payments and do not store logs.
Keep your bits going the way you want them lads
Thereâs a certain special irony in Crypto-Bros like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk bankrolling JD Vance so he can push Project 2025 through Congress and force gooners to kickback a rent to Crypto-Bros in order to jerk it.
Libertarian Dystopia here we come!
Iâm pretty sure thereâs nearly zero overlap between Monero users/people who actually use cryptocurrency as payment and âcrypto brosâ (those who use Bitcoin and shitcoins as investments)
Americans getting dumber and dumber over the years. i thought the âstupid white menâ era was the peak, but i stand corrected
If that legitimately happens and makes it into law in a broadly enforceable way rather than a âthis person who I donât like was caught checks notes watching porn! book em!â, which is definitely what it would be like basically every law that came before it, I guarantee that the government would collapse within about three weeks if less. Which I think is maybe a good rule of thumb, that if your law would collapse society if it were enforced equally, it should not be a law.
Do not underestimate the power of the gooners when they are kept from the goon.
These laws will never be used against those who are passing them.
Oh sure. Famously, whenever a worksite implements a blacklist on pornographic websites, the workers immediately begin screaming and flailing and eating each others faces.
Generally speaking, the power of the gooner is to compile 500 TB of questionably legal pornographic data on a PLEX server in their basements and ride out the porn-pocolypse as a bunch of horny hermits.
But the theory that this is going to be the last straw and hordes of angry horny dudes are going to take to the streets in a mass labor action is about as likely as the one where Tech Bros were going to take to the streets over Net Neutrality or women were going to have a sex boycott over the Abortion Ban or the hippies were going to tear down Wall Street over the drug war.
Americans are shockingly pliant and far more prone to simply turn to black market cartels than actively resist policing.
I was being hyperbolic, but, a famous part of the prohibition was the organized crime which was both kind of naturally occurring at the time and was created specifically to traffic booze. Illegal material canât be protected by legal means, obviously, and so in order to trade it, you basically have to create your own police force, your own privatized military. a gang, a mob. Thatâs how we got nascar and shit, the rumrunners. If you made porn illegal, Iâd imagine it would just be added as kind of another form of valuable property which would be traded around by gangs which would see increased power and are kind of inherently anti-institutional. So, turning to black market cartels is a form of resisting policing, itâs a form of anti-institutional action, Iâd say, as it gives more economic power to anti-institutional organizations.
Iâd also say, you know, I mean, the hippies did go to wall street in 2008, so thatâs something. We had the big liberal feminist pussy hat shit sometime after that, which Iâm not as familiar with. More recently we had BLM which was possibly the highest level of street marching weâve seen basically ever, and then weâve seen like two riots to try and overturn elections, one of which was successful. Weâve seen more recent campus protests which are still constantly ongoing despite a lack of media attention. I donât think itâs as absurd as you think, that something kind of stupid like porn getting banned might be the tipping point, especially considering the pretty steady upward trend that weâve seen with political action concerning other somewhat disconnected issues.
Quite a few political families profited handsomely from alcohol prohibition. The Kennedys are probably the most famous, but the political system was rife with corruption. If youâve ever watched Boardwalk Empire, the story was based on the notorious Atlantic City sheriff Enoch Johnson.
The ability to selectively enforce prohibition gives you ample opportunity to profit from the gaps in the system. Sex work has long had a relationship with local politicians and police, and I have no doubt that criminalization of porn would create an huge market for kickbacks to enforcement organizations.
Itâs like 12 at night for me so this might be a little bit rambly and stupid, be prepared:
Yeah, thatâs pretty true, but I also mentioned that to some extent in my OP, that selective enforcement is the case with basically every law that has ever existed. Iâm not really a stranger to the institutional fuckery that happens in the illegal market either, gary webb and allat, but also the classic uncontrollable mexican government drug cartel shenaniganery. I just also think, maybe to the core of what Iâm getting at, that people shouldnât also be like, immediately snap judgement in terms of condemning illegal action on the basis of itâs illegality necessarily. The black panthers collapsed and all the other civil rights organizations that were around at the time. MLK probably got assassinated by the feds, Fred Hampton definitely did, I think Malcolm X probably also did, but those organizations, or so I am told, didnât dissolve immediately, they just began a long process of ostracization and alienation and probably atomization as suburban poverty increases more recently, until they basically just became normal gangs, as they were engaging in illegal activity before, and selling drugs, or illegal property, is a quick way to make cash to fund ventures. I dunno I still need to find a good place to watch âthe bastards of the partyâ, I think that documentary has something to say about that. Also never heard of boardwalk empire
Maybe in your silly country.
How about you stop assuming everyone on the internet lives in the USA?
VPN into some country that isnât the US of A.
I can agree with this, at least.