NFL to begin using face scanning tech across all stadiums (www.theregister.com)
from minnix@lemux.minnix.dev to privacy@lemmy.ml on 06 Aug 2024 20:32
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BmeBenji@lemm.ee on 07 Aug 2024 01:12 next collapse

… but why?

golden_zealot@lemmy.ml on 07 Aug 2024 03:08 collapse

To database and sell your biometric data at the expense of privacy under the guise of convenience. This is contemporary business 101. First either steal data or lie through a grinning face to acquire data, then sell the data.

d00phy@lemmy.world on 07 Aug 2024 01:26 next collapse

They should really use a photo of an NFL team for their article about something the NFL is looking to do. You know, rather than West Virginia University.

rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works on 07 Aug 2024 02:41 collapse

and get on a list for using the national football league’s photographic assets without express written permission? facebanned

wuphysics87@lemmy.ml on 07 Aug 2024 06:22 collapse

Get an image fron a vhs cassette it will be fine

Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works on 07 Aug 2024 01:31 next collapse

I’m sure this will go well and is certainly much easier than having badges and security. It’s definitely not a massive ploy to harvest more data from the public and sell to the highest bidder

WldFyre@lemm.ee on 07 Aug 2024 02:39 collapse

Harvest what data?

golden_zealot@lemmy.ml on 07 Aug 2024 03:10 collapse

Biometric data of individuals faces. Biggest buyer for that market would be law enforcement/government I’d expect.

WldFyre@lemm.ee on 07 Aug 2024 03:40 collapse

I imagine the vast majority of people have driver’s licenses, the government already has a picture of your face.

golden_zealot@lemmy.ml on 07 Aug 2024 04:01 next collapse

Doesn’t need to be your government who’s buying. The picture on your license also doesn’t come with meta data about your whereabouts when you decide to go to something as simple as a sporting event.

WldFyre@lemm.ee on 07 Aug 2024 20:44 collapse

Yeah, that information would just be conveyed by the tickets you paid for with your name on them.

golden_zealot@lemmy.ml on 07 Aug 2024 22:55 collapse

Didn’t realize a picture of my face was on my football ticket as well.

WldFyre@lemm.ee on 07 Aug 2024 23:24 collapse

So you said the government would buy it, so I pointed out that the government already has a facial picture of you. Your counterpoint is that it doesn’t have to be the government, in which case, why did you mention it. And then you said it’s because it would have meta data on your location, which is weird considering you would have bought tickets with your name on them through payment methods tied to your name. This isn’t some local high school game we’re talking about here.

golden_zealot@lemmy.ml on 07 Aug 2024 23:49 collapse

So you said the government would buy it, so I pointed out that the government already has a facial picture of you. Your counterpoint is that it doesn’t have to be the government, in which case, why did you mention it.

I said “government” would be a likely purchaser, not “the” government because I am not talking about any one government. I mentioned it to reinforce the point that any government is a potential buyer for the data, not just the government that has your ID on file, which is counter point to the point you tried to make that “the government already has a facial picture of you” referring to ID when this is not the case for all governments.

As a hypothetical example, I have never been to, or interacted with the government of South Africa. I doubt they have a picture of me. They could likely buy the data if they wanted to, which would give them a picture of me in the hypothetical scenario. They would not otherwise have access to a photo of me. I don’t know what is hard to follow about that.

And then you said it’s because it would have meta data on your location, which is weird considering you would have bought tickets with your name on them through payment methods tied to your name.

Yea, and my credit card which I buy the ticket with over the internet does not have a picture of my face with a timestamp verifiably showing that I was at the location, what I was wearing, who I may be with, etc.

You also understand that you can buy things with this neat thing called “Cash” right? Cash is really neat because it’s a payment method that doesn’t have your name on it.

This is my direct counter point to your statement “you would have bought tickets with your name on them through payment methods tied to your name”. Unless you want to deny the existence of physical money, you are plainly wrong here for reasons that are ibid.

You also know that tickets don’t typically have your name printed on them right?

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You can go buy a ticket and examine it as close as you like. It is uncommon for them to have your name one them unless they are for some event you have been explicitly invited to, or you ordered them in advance for pick up or through some third party service.

Probably because the public is free to buy tickets for shows AT the location the event is held? And probably because you don’t have to show ID to buy such tickets unless you’re purchasing liquor with it or seeing an event rated for adults etc? Do they ask for your ID when you go to the ticket office at the movie theater? Cool, they don’t at ticket offices at stadiums either, so if someone has been asking you for that when you buy tickets, you should probably check if your identity was stolen because that’s not a requirement to get a ticket!

It’s almost like you could buy a ticket without your name printed on it using a method of payment which also doesn’t have your name printed on it. What a wild idea! It’s almost as if this is how this universally worked before people had debit/credit cards.

Oh and if it’s a cashless location, there’s another really cool thing you can do called “buying a gift card with cash” which gives you a cashless payment method without giving your name and face away which you can also use to purchase tickets as well as food and drink.

wuphysics87@lemmy.ml on 07 Aug 2024 06:25 collapse

That is a single datapoint and typically not recent. More data. More data. More data!

XTL@sopuli.xyz on 07 Aug 2024 09:29 collapse

Locations and timelines, gait recordings, clothing… Advertisers will love to have that as well

c0smokram3r@midwest.social on 07 Aug 2024 02:16 next collapse

“It works like this: credential holders snap a selfie, Wicket scans the resulting image and compares it to a photo on file to verify their identity as people pass a security checkpoint. Credentialing software provided by UK outfit Accredit Solutions helps to make those checks and determine access rights.”

•I have never heard of/used Accredit Solutions or Wicket so how tf are you comparing it to a photo on file?

“Last year, the franchise also offered spectators the chance to scan a ticket as they entered the ground, which then enabled pre-registered facial biometrics and credit card details to be used at an “Express Beer” lane that allowed acquisition of suds without having do anything more than grin in the right direction.”

•Wow, fuck all the way off w all this shit!

So much for going to anymore sporting events 😫🥴

hightrix@lemmy.world on 08 Aug 2024 00:04 collapse

I’ll say the same thing I say at the airport.

“I would like to opt-out please”