Chat Control Plenary vote Results
from hatingfedizen@lemmy.dbzer0.com to privacy@lemmy.ml on 06 Mar 10:37
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/64876673

cross-posted from: lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/64875667

They are currently voting on amends to the regulation. The “Chat Control” proposal would legalise scanning of all private digital communications, including encrypted messages and photos. This threatens fundamental privacy rights and digital security for all EU citizens.

fightchatcontrol.eu

#privacy

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[deleted] on 06 Mar 10:47 next collapse

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waigl@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 10:48 next collapse

I will never vote for SPD again. Bunch of rotten traitors.

birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 06 Mar 11:06 next collapse

On toward Die Linke and Grünen!

Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de on 06 Mar 11:21 next collapse

Die Partei?

birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 06 Mar 11:23 collapse

Unironically they’d be a better choice than AfD or Union, but that’s a bar so low you could hardly walk under it.

Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de on 06 Mar 11:26 collapse

<img alt="" src="https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/87c2bdeb-e14c-49bc-848f-43e80b17393e.gif">

xploit@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 18:10 collapse

Hermes’ ancestor!

Blemgo@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 12:42 collapse

Alternatively also VOLT, perhaps? It doesn’t hurt to fight for a more unified EU.

birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 06 Mar 12:50 next collapse

Volt feels a bit too centrist, semi-neoliberal. But if it gets people away from Union, why not.

Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org on 06 Mar 13:30 collapse

I will never vote for neolibs again even with a european paint job.

ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com on 06 Mar 11:33 next collapse

Just like UK Labour then. These so-called social-democratic parties will sell out the very people they’re theoretically supposed to protect without a second thought. That’s why they are crashing and burning across Europe and fascist parties are benefitting massively.

We need to take the fight to them with proper leftist politics.

ibot@feddit.org on 06 Mar 19:11 next collapse

Wer hat uns verraten?

clot27@lemmy.zip on 07 Mar 21:33 collapse

SPD bein traitorous

A trait as old as time

From Rosa Luxembourg to today

angelmountain@lemy.nl on 06 Mar 10:59 next collapse

Still too many in favour

sem@lemmy.ml on 06 Mar 11:12 next collapse

That is interesting. Why in Germany and Austria far-right (AfD, CDU, OVP) are against but center-left / liberals (SPD, SPO) are in favor, while for example in France and Czech Republic it is opposite (RN in favor, EELV against; ANO in favor, KDU-CSL against)?

Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de on 06 Mar 11:24 next collapse

Yess! Indeed interesting, maybe member of german and Austria far right parties use chat apps within scope and fear to get caught doing whatever they do 🤔

LorIps@lemmy.world on 07 Mar 01:26 next collapse

Oida. Maybe Thomas Schmid trauma is keeping them in line xD

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 08 Mar 13:27 collapse

but politicians would have always been exempted from chat control

Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works on 06 Mar 11:25 next collapse

Why in Germany and Austria far-right (AfD, CDU, OVP) are against

I guess a combination of contrarianism and the control not going far enough.

SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 06 Mar 12:07 collapse

Probably more likely that they are against it as long as they can be targeted. They want to wait until they are in charge politically and can control it, and then they’ll be behind it so they can target their perceived enemies.

Pretty much how it went here in the USA. All the shit the right wing used to scream and rail against is everything they’re instituting now that they feel relatively sure they won’t have to let go of the power in the future. Once they get their tentacles in, they’ll turn on a dime and support it.

Enkrod@feddit.org on 06 Mar 11:35 next collapse

This is more about consistency than anything else.

EU-politicians have promised not to extend Chat Control 1.0 and SPD are the only ones happy to break their promise. The right has Chat Control 2.0 waiting in the wings so the vote to not extend doesn’t hurt their surveillance plans.

schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de on 06 Mar 12:48 collapse

because civil liberties don’t fit neatly into a left-right spectrum, despite being a lot more important than the economic policies that the left-right spectrum aims to describe, which is why I think the left-right spectrum is mostly useless

Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Mar 11:21 next collapse

López Aguilar es un cabrón. Tener que tirar del PP y de Comuns para tirar la propuesta…

Translation from Spanish: López Aguilar is a S.O.B. Having to resort to PP and Comuns to take down the proposal…

Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca on 06 Mar 12:12 collapse

Nunca pensaba que estaría de acuerdo con alguien de PP

nanlux_user@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 11:25 next collapse

The date says 2nd march 2025.

schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de on 06 Mar 12:46 collapse

Yes, and it also says LIBE, which is the committee, not plenary, where this was recently voted on. It’s clearly not enough members for a plenary vote, this post is misinformation as titled.

hatingfedizen@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 07 Mar 13:09 collapse

Yes that was my confusion, that’s also why not all countries are present in this vote. The original post is trying to raise attention because the vote for the Chat Control 2.0 is starting these days.

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 08 Mar 13:21 collapse

you should have edited the title. but yours is a new account, maybe you don’t yet know lemmy lets you do that

voxel@feddit.uk on 06 Mar 12:43 next collapse

What is the source of the image?

Found it: https://digitalcourage.social/@echo_pbreyer/116176604411517279

Glad to see most Germans are against.

hatingfedizen@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 07 Mar 13:06 collapse

My bad, I thought I had included the link to the original post when I uploaded the image

CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 14:54 next collapse

Man that’s a lot of political parties, have you guys ever tried just having one like us in the US? ~please help us~

a4ng3l@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 19:26 next collapse

No surprise seeing the right voting for that shit. Tells me all I need to know about the actual motives….

Lucky73@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Mar 23:49 next collapse

All of those Spanish votes against it are from the right

srestegosaurio@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 07 Mar 03:30 collapse

I mean, not all of them, but yeah, big looser energy from the one in the PSOE who voted in favour lmao.

Scrollone@feddit.it on 07 Mar 02:14 next collapse

The Italian left voted in favour (what a huge disappointment). FI voted against and it’s a right wing party.

Kita@feddit.it on 07 Mar 02:55 collapse

Honestly who surprised me more is Cecilia Strada voting in favour.

kilgore_trout@feddit.it on 07 Mar 04:14 next collapse

Write to her if you wish to change your mind.

Scrollone@feddit.it on 07 Mar 09:34 collapse

Yeah me too. Huge disappointment. I wonder if her father is spinning in his grave.

[deleted] on 07 Mar 02:45 collapse

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petersr@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 19:47 next collapse

No Denmark anywhere?

I thought there were many Danish politician for.

lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org on 07 Mar 05:14 collapse

I also see no Croatia at all.

awaysaway@sh.itjust.works on 06 Mar 22:06 next collapse

why are there some member states not represented here?

Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world on 06 Mar 22:53 next collapse

SPD ab jetzt noch unwählbarer. Hätte nicht gedacht, dass das geht.

Chais@sh.itjust.works on 07 Mar 20:09 collapse

Bin auch überrascht CDU und AfD auf der richtigen Seite des Grabens zu sehen. Ob das ein versehen war?

unknowablenight@piefed.social on 07 Mar 00:56 collapse

Glad to see so many against, horrible to see that many for, let’s not let this get passed.