autonomoususer@lemmy.world
on 05 Jun 2024 14:38
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Any libre software with voice chat more decentralised than this?
refalo@programming.dev
on 05 Jun 2024 15:56
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jami maybe
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl
on 06 Jun 2024 13:17
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I wonder what would happen if you host a server but block the domains of the central ones, asking everyone you chat with to use other servers instead.
Lemmchen@feddit.de
on 05 Jun 2024 16:52
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Wow, I think this basically makes Session obsolete.
rar@discuss.online
on 06 Jun 2024 05:28
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SimpleX having PFS while Session not having it also seals the deal.
Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works
on 07 Jun 2024 02:51
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agreed, i liked that session had out of the box alternative routing, but a basic vpn + simplex’s new private routing knocks down one of my final gripes with the app.
although, i guess my only other gripe now is that using your simplex profile on both desktop and phone is either hard as shite or totally impossible.
using your simplex profile on both desktop and phone
Why would that be hard?
Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works
on 07 Jun 2024 07:20
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go try it
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
on 07 Jun 2024 06:20
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Why is Simplex based. Damn this is cool.
However, I do wish they would adopt a more decentralized approach like Jami and Briar. It is very hard to get right but it has so many benifits.
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl
on 07 Jun 2024 16:26
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Yea, my main concern for now is that most people are using default servers. Good thing their servers are very easy to host, but still, power of the default. I would really like to see lists of public servers, like what we see now for XMPP and Matrix. The thing is still young, so looking forward.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
on 07 Jun 2024 21:54
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I just self host
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl
on 07 Jun 2024 23:40
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I self-host too, that wasn’t the problem, it’s that there is the power of the default. Just like with Matrix. You can ask a friend to use your server or another one and delete the main ones entirely, but chances are you won’t be avoiding them in a random chatroom.
foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml
on 07 Jun 2024 08:20
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You don’t think that XMPP clients are better, like conversations or others?
XMPP as a protocol was great. But the problems the servers had, the mess is just a no go.
SimpleX is far better in privacy and usability in my opinion. I doubt XMPP will recover anytime soon.
foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml
on 07 Jun 2024 12:21
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And with its own server?
Coasting0942@reddthat.com
on 08 Jun 2024 21:20
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Most important part of the blog post:
We are planning a 3rd party security audit for the protocols and cryptography design in July 2024, and also the security audit for an implementation in December 2024/January 2025, and it would hugely help us if some part of this $50,000+ expense is covered with donations.
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Any libre software with voice chat more decentralised than this?
jami maybe
I wonder what would happen if you host a server but block the domains of the central ones, asking everyone you chat with to use other servers instead.
Wow, I think this basically makes Session obsolete.
SimpleX having PFS while Session not having it also seals the deal.
agreed, i liked that session had out of the box alternative routing, but a basic vpn + simplex’s new private routing knocks down one of my final gripes with the app.
although, i guess my only other gripe now is that using your simplex profile on both desktop and phone is either hard as shite or totally impossible.
Why would that be hard?
go try it
Why is Simplex based. Damn this is cool.
However, I do wish they would adopt a more decentralized approach like Jami and Briar. It is very hard to get right but it has so many benifits.
Yea, my main concern for now is that most people are using default servers. Good thing their servers are very easy to host, but still, power of the default. I would really like to see lists of public servers, like what we see now for XMPP and Matrix. The thing is still young, so looking forward.
I just self host
I self-host too, that wasn’t the problem, it’s that there is the power of the default. Just like with Matrix. You can ask a friend to use your server or another one and delete the main ones entirely, but chances are you won’t be avoiding them in a random chatroom.
You don’t think that XMPP clients are better, like conversations or others?
XMPP as a protocol was great. But the problems the servers had, the mess is just a no go. SimpleX is far better in privacy and usability in my opinion. I doubt XMPP will recover anytime soon.
And with its own server?
Most important part of the blog post: