Censorship in Europe: Major Palestinian news channels banned on Telegram (peoplesdispatch.org)
from Linkerbaan@lemmy.world to privacy@lemmy.ml on 09 Oct 2024 10:12
https://lemmy.world/post/20661495

Last week, several pro-Palestinian Telegram channels were blocked in European countries, including the “Palestine Archive ??” channel with more than 15,000 followers and the “Resistance News Network” (RNN) with more than 166,000 subscribers. The exact justification of the ban are not known. While Telegram did not respond to a journalistic request, the RNN said that there was no reason for the closure. Anyone who tries to open up the channel in the affected countries now will receive the notification that they cannot be not displayed because they “violate local laws”. RNN and the online outlet The Cradle have spoken of an EU-wide ban.

While the legal basis for the blocking remains unclear, the political reasons are obvious. RNN itself explained to Peoples Dispatch: “We believe RNN was banned because we shed light on the reality of resistance on the ground, which upends the mainstream zionist narrative.“

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Linkerbaan@lemmy.world on 09 Oct 2024 10:13 next collapse

The article is a month old but many users are reporting on new bans since yesterday.

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0x0@programming.dev on 09 Oct 2024 10:18 next collapse

Europa The Just acting unfairly? No way!™

Mrkawfee@lemmy.world on 09 Oct 2024 11:43 next collapse

Zionism has corrupted the West.

NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io on 09 Oct 2024 12:36 next collapse

Been the case for a while. If anything this is more a symptom of the virus being (very slowly) expelled from Western consciousness.

winterayars@sh.itjust.works on 09 Oct 2024 16:05 collapse

I hope that’s true.

davel@lemmy.ml on 10 Oct 2024 17:39 collapse

The West created Zionism. Zionism is a Western settler-colonialist project, as was the United States, Canada, Australia, South Africa, and Nazi Germany, to name a few.

QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world on 09 Oct 2024 11:50 next collapse

This isn’t a privacy issue.

Linkerbaan@lemmy.world on 09 Oct 2024 11:54 collapse

Censorship and privacy are closely linked but you are right they are different subjects. Telegram blocking access to certain channels based on region overlaps into privacy territory for me but people are free to down vote the post if they disagree.

Maeve@midwest.social on 10 Oct 2024 00:42 collapse

Most people in the security industries that I’ve ever known are keenly interested in privacy, for good reason. There is a reason certain protesting elements *cover their faces and it’s not usually for nefarious reasons.

*Autocorrect ftl

foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml on 09 Oct 2024 12:22 next collapse

The solution is to not use Telegram, and fuck the govs

yogthos@lemmy.ml on 09 Oct 2024 14:55 collapse

how to miss the point entirely

foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml on 09 Oct 2024 18:21 collapse

Telegram is not a social for counter the censorship and be private, it’s not good at all to use Telegram for this kind of messaging + with the arrest of Durov, it will even more difficult to counter govs when using Telegram

yogthos@lemmy.ml on 09 Oct 2024 19:36 next collapse

continuing to miss the point I see

[deleted] on 09 Oct 2024 22:53 collapse

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yogthos@lemmy.ml on 09 Oct 2024 23:06 collapse

It’s incredible that it needs to be explained that the issue is with the censorship regardless of what particular service is being censored or what you personally happen to think of it.

foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml on 09 Oct 2024 23:21 collapse

To combat censorship, first go out a anti-censorship platform and then try to solve the problem

yogthos@lemmy.ml on 09 Oct 2024 23:25 next collapse

What part of the government is making information illegal are you struggling comprehend? If there was some magical anti-censorship platform that was usable by regular people then it would just be banned, and then people using it would be arrested. This is not a technology problem.

davel@lemmy.ml on 10 Oct 2024 17:48 collapse

This sounds like a famous engineer’s disease adage: The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it. Not every social problem can or should be solved by technology.

GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml on 09 Oct 2024 19:48 collapse

Telegram is awful, but that’s mainly because it is readily bent towards the interests of malicious state actors like we see here. This headline is produced by two things being bad, not just one.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 09 Oct 2024 14:17 next collapse

Dont memeber states have a bunch of idiotic laws against speech?

Probably really easy to justify censorship against anything you want really...

You hurt the vulture's feelings when you called him out for eating that zebra when she was still alive!

yogthos@lemmy.ml on 09 Oct 2024 14:59 next collapse

Kind of hilarious how people in the west would always claims that the differentiating factor between them and countries like China was freedom of expression. Turns out what was really happening was that majority of people in the west were just swallowing their state propaganda uncritically, and there was no need for heavy handed censorship. Now that the state is losing control of the narrative heavy handed measures are promptly introduced.

As always, the west is no different from its adversaries, but people in the west are gullible enough to think they’re special.

DaseinPickle@leminal.space on 09 Oct 2024 21:57 collapse

Yea, it’s called indexing, it’s well documented: oxfordbibliographies.com/…/obo-9780199756841-0090…

unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de on 10 Oct 2024 00:11 collapse

Playing a bit of devil’s advocate here: any of you used these channels? Could it be that they were just spreading misinformation like every country does at war? Any example of existing zionist Telegram channels?