I’ve never seen anyone come up with anything even slightly useful for any smart watch.
$500 bucks to learn that your heart rate goes up when you exercise and to start each day being told your sleep wasn’t perfect. Wow what awesome actionable information thanks
Oh you paid a thousand bucks for the one with the built in altimeter that gives you the exact same information printed on the trail map? So cool, wow so we really did go up the mountain and then back down, who could have known. Oh my god it even remembers where we parked the car?
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 13 Sep 02:54
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Sleep and exercise tracking are the number one reason why I bought one. Just because you don’t get excited by it doesn’t mean others don’t.
You and I both get excited about many things in our lives that are totally useless, or even activey detrimental to our goals. The watch probably makes your sleep worse in and of itself, for starters. And I’ve never seen anything helpful on the exercise tracking side, what do you use it for?
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 13 Sep 21:32
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How in the world is the watch going to make my sleep worse? Yeah maybe the first week when I had to get used to something being strapped to my wrist. But that’s no different from when I slept with my old Cassio. The watch has bed time reminders that prompt me to go to bed, which has only helped me be more consistent with my sleep. It also alerted me that I was having sleep apnea and prompted me to get a proper test which has only helped me get better sleep. the watch doesn’t magically make my sleep better though, it just tracks my sleep and lets me know when there’s problems. In ways that I can’t do when I’m ya know… asleep.
You’ve never seen tracking heart rate or exertion be useful while exercising? Really?
There are tons of stories from people who report the sleep tracking causes them unneeded stress and worsens their sleep. That’s if they realize it’s happening. Plenty more never make the connection.
The watch has bed time reminders
Your $1 casio also has the ability to set an alarm
sleep apnea
lets me know when there’s problems
Anxiety based marketing. Yes, if you were previously not mindful of your health and the watch was the catylist that got you to seek treatment, that’s genuinely great.
Everyone should however be familiarizing themselves with the symptoms of common preventible illnesses, including the vast majority of which the watch doesn’t track and has no way of alerting you to. Typically you want to pursue medical assistance when you encounter some type of problem, and not just spend oodles on consumer tech because a mega corporation realized they can rake in cash by larping as a preventative diagnostic.
You’ve never seen tracking heart rate or exertion be useful while exercising?
Correct. “Heart rate zone” is a fundamentally worthless metric. It was contrived as an excuse to sell trackers. Even if it were 100% accurate there is literally no benefit to knowing or considering that information during or after your workout. I mention accuracy because there are plenty of examples of people wearing two different brands during the exact same workout and getting wildly different results, just so you know.
If you want to monitor your exertion you just use your breathing. Forced to slow down due to breathing = max, breathing challenged but sustanable (barely possible, but possible, to have a conversation) = mid, sustainable breathing and could easily have a conversation = min. Totally free and you can even do interval training with that same casio if you so desired
otacon239@lemmy.world
on 13 Sep 05:09
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The main thing I use mine for is being able to check notifications without having to grab my phone. I already enjoy wearing a watch, so the time, date, temperature and any other bonus info I want can be there too.
That’s about where it stops though. It should be a mostly passive device. I don’t think the design of fiddling with buttons and talking to it are reasonable. It should tell you information, not take it.
Hey if you simply enjoy it that’s awesome. My main problem is really just the marketing angle where people end up believing the watch has unlocked the ability for them to go for a walk around their neighborhood
jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Sep 16:27
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having a map on your wrist is helpful, not $500 useful but useful.
reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net
on 13 Sep 01:14
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My pebble watch only listens to me if I ask it to:)
It’s like that black mirror episode where the couple can replay their arguments
RogueBanana@piefed.zip
on 13 Sep 07:04
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Exact same thought when I saw their presentation. Fucking unreal how many episodes are getting more and more real over last few years. Can’t wait for this stupid AI boom to die, it still won’t go anywhere but at least they would stop accelerating the planet’s death. Hopefully, maybe.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 13 Sep 15:48
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“The Entire History of You”
FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Sep 02:20
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Apple seems really focused on preventing the audio from making it off the device.
Which fine, I believe they’ll make that very difficult. Apple has engineering chops.
But it’s not the fucking point. I ALSO don’t want every watchhole around me making transcriptions of anything I say within earshot of whoever wears one. Which will be way less noticeable than even smart glasses. Say goodbye to having an unrecorded conv in most public places.
freedickpics@lemmy.ml
on 13 Sep 11:13
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Once the technology is implemented and ubiquitous it would only take a secret government mandate and a gag order for the code to be altered to listen for particular words and phrases and log them
I was reading up on that and how they plan on processing it in the Secure Enclave part of the watch. My only concern though is as you move more stuff into the enclave, the bigger the attack surface for the entire enclave becomes. And then at what point is more working being done in the enclave than the rest of the watch basically becoming a useless demarcation of security.
defrostedLasagna4921@piefed.zip
on 13 Sep 16:13
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And some places still have policies that don’t allow you to record audio.
I don’t buy Apple products, so no, they won’t, heh
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 13 Sep 05:48
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…unless, of course, you’re close to a person who wears one of these. then you still get spied on yaaaaayyyyy
and unlike the meta glasses, these look the same as any apple watch, which have already been normalized in society. so shunning people for wearing these won’t work cuz you won’t be able to tell. i love the future this is so COOL
I’ve been wondering the same about all technology for the last 10 or more years now.
orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
on 13 Sep 17:56
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No one does. That’s where we’re at in tech now. It’s never anything any consumer wants, but it’s always what the surveillance industry wants. A recap of my day is fucking useless. I was there, for fuck sake!
kn0wmad1c@programming.dev
on 13 Sep 06:47
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Who wants a recap of their day?
“You woke up at 7:22am!”
“You played stardew valley in bed for 14 hours!”
“You took minor chickie mcnuggie breaks twice today!”
All these years we have been watching TV, and now the tables have turned. The TVs are watching us.
orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
on 13 Sep 17:52
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Damn, this day sounds awesome.
belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org
on 14 Sep 00:06
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Ideal day tbh
ramius345@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Sep 06:56
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I have the perfect timepiece. It tells the time and that’s it. It syncs to atomic time so it’s always accurate and charges by solar so it’s never dead. It has no transmitter or audio capabilities.
Hey! Mine not only tells the time, but also the day of the week and month, and has an integrated alarm clock and stopwatch. Battery lasts for seven years, keeps time to within a few minutes per year, is cheap enough so that I don’t mind wearing it when I’m cycling as I can just replace it if I break it, and it has a celebrity endorsement. Of sorts, anyway.
is this for people with Alzheimers? do people not remember what they did through the day or need more granuality? took a shit vs took a shit fron 9:05:47 to 9:35:48 vs did i shit today ?
09:05:47: You lifted the lid of the toilet
09:05:49: You dropped your shorts and underpants
09:06:04: Your butt cheeks made contact with the toilet seat
09:06:07: You activated your iPhone
09:06:09: You opened ShitTok on your iPhone
09:06:15: You realised that nothing was forthcoming and that there must be a clog in your colon
09:06:23: You began straining
09:06:24: You exclaimed: "Arrrrgh, shift you nobbly bastard!"
09:06:40: Your pulse and blood pressure reached dangerously elevated levels
09:06:44: The crap clog finally passed your sphincter
09:06:45: The 'bomb bay doors opened' and a satisfying torrent of last night's now-digested burrito gushed out
09:06:51: The flow of yesterday's bean, cheese, and pork 'al pastor' eases
09:06:55: You sighed with relief and reached for the TP
“I have nothing to hide, not even the private conversation happening next to me”
MrOtingocni@lemmy.world
on 14 Sep 13:16
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Oh great, now we’re all going to have to buy voice modulators that interject some kind of patterned noise that scrambles audio recording. Just like those masks that interfere with video.
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… in case you weren’t there and missed it? I don’t get it. “Today this happened.” “Duh”
It’s gonna have a narrator like on the Wonder Years show.
I don’t remember what I had for breakfast, but that just means it’s irrelevant information. Fuck all of this constantly-plugged-in slop!
Of my day? Nah, not gonna happen.
Just any parts of your day you spent near ppl wearing one of these.
Or any of the others that’ll have a shittier implementation than Apple’s.
I don’t consent to any iWatch recording me
You have to forward this to seven people for it to be true.
The stupidest tech purchase I made, ever, was an Apple Watch. Useless piece of shit.
I’ve never seen anyone come up with anything even slightly useful for any smart watch.
$500 bucks to learn that your heart rate goes up when you exercise and to start each day being told your sleep wasn’t perfect. Wow what awesome actionable information thanks
Oh you paid a thousand bucks for the one with the built in altimeter that gives you the exact same information printed on the trail map? So cool, wow so we really did go up the mountain and then back down, who could have known. Oh my god it even remembers where we parked the car?
Sleep and exercise tracking are the number one reason why I bought one. Just because you don’t get excited by it doesn’t mean others don’t.
You and I both get excited about many things in our lives that are totally useless, or even activey detrimental to our goals. The watch probably makes your sleep worse in and of itself, for starters. And I’ve never seen anything helpful on the exercise tracking side, what do you use it for?
How in the world is the watch going to make my sleep worse? Yeah maybe the first week when I had to get used to something being strapped to my wrist. But that’s no different from when I slept with my old Cassio. The watch has bed time reminders that prompt me to go to bed, which has only helped me be more consistent with my sleep. It also alerted me that I was having sleep apnea and prompted me to get a proper test which has only helped me get better sleep. the watch doesn’t magically make my sleep better though, it just tracks my sleep and lets me know when there’s problems. In ways that I can’t do when I’m ya know… asleep.
You’ve never seen tracking heart rate or exertion be useful while exercising? Really?
There are tons of stories from people who report the sleep tracking causes them unneeded stress and worsens their sleep. That’s if they realize it’s happening. Plenty more never make the connection.
Your $1 casio also has the ability to set an alarm
Anxiety based marketing. Yes, if you were previously not mindful of your health and the watch was the catylist that got you to seek treatment, that’s genuinely great.
Everyone should however be familiarizing themselves with the symptoms of common preventible illnesses, including the vast majority of which the watch doesn’t track and has no way of alerting you to. Typically you want to pursue medical assistance when you encounter some type of problem, and not just spend oodles on consumer tech because a mega corporation realized they can rake in cash by larping as a preventative diagnostic.
Correct. “Heart rate zone” is a fundamentally worthless metric. It was contrived as an excuse to sell trackers. Even if it were 100% accurate there is literally no benefit to knowing or considering that information during or after your workout. I mention accuracy because there are plenty of examples of people wearing two different brands during the exact same workout and getting wildly different results, just so you know.
If you want to monitor your exertion you just use your breathing. Forced to slow down due to breathing = max, breathing challenged but sustanable (barely possible, but possible, to have a conversation) = mid, sustainable breathing and could easily have a conversation = min. Totally free and you can even do interval training with that same casio if you so desired
The main thing I use mine for is being able to check notifications without having to grab my phone. I already enjoy wearing a watch, so the time, date, temperature and any other bonus info I want can be there too.
That’s about where it stops though. It should be a mostly passive device. I don’t think the design of fiddling with buttons and talking to it are reasonable. It should tell you information, not take it.
Hey if you simply enjoy it that’s awesome. My main problem is really just the marketing angle where people end up believing the watch has unlocked the ability for them to go for a walk around their neighborhood
having a map on your wrist is helpful, not $500 useful but useful.
My pebble watch only listens to me if I ask it to:)
It’s like that black mirror episode where the couple can replay their arguments
Exact same thought when I saw their presentation. Fucking unreal how many episodes are getting more and more real over last few years. Can’t wait for this stupid AI boom to die, it still won’t go anywhere but at least they would stop accelerating the planet’s death. Hopefully, maybe.
“The Entire History of You”
Apple seems really focused on preventing the audio from making it off the device.
Which fine, I believe they’ll make that very difficult. Apple has engineering chops.
But it’s not the fucking point. I ALSO don’t want every watchhole around me making transcriptions of anything I say within earshot of whoever wears one. Which will be way less noticeable than even smart glasses. Say goodbye to having an unrecorded conv in most public places.
The whitewashing of the privacy probs with this is galling.
Once the technology is implemented and ubiquitous it would only take a secret government mandate and a gag order for the code to be altered to listen for particular words and phrases and log them
And its all closed source and propretieary. So no one would know.
I was reading up on that and how they plan on processing it in the Secure Enclave part of the watch. My only concern though is as you move more stuff into the enclave, the bigger the attack surface for the entire enclave becomes. And then at what point is more working being done in the enclave than the rest of the watch basically becoming a useless demarcation of security.
And some places still have policies that don’t allow you to record audio.
Huh? That tiny fucker uses AI to process the conversations itself?! How?
Isn’t that going to drain the battery and heat up the thibg to high hells? I’m assuming it’s either that or the output will be crap.
I don’t buy Apple products, so no, they won’t, heh
…unless, of course, you’re close to a person who wears one of these. then you still get spied on yaaaaayyyyy
and unlike the meta glasses, these look the same as any apple watch, which have already been normalized in society. so shunning people for wearing these won’t work cuz you won’t be able to tell. i love the future this is so COOL
I know… i was being tongue-in-cheek.
I need to find a way to build a handheld rf jammer
Share the plans 😂
Careful, federal crime there.
OhNoAnyway.jpg
Apparently so is marijuana smoking!
Like a plan get something accepted then make it spy on you.
Why would anyone want that?
I’ve been wondering the same about all technology for the last 10 or more years now.
No one does. That’s where we’re at in tech now. It’s never anything any consumer wants, but it’s always what the surveillance industry wants. A recap of my day is fucking useless. I was there, for fuck sake!
Who wants a recap of their day?
“You woke up at 7:22am!”
“You played stardew valley in bed for 14 hours!”
“You took minor chickie mcnuggie breaks twice today!”
Are you watching me through a camera rn???
We all are
On your LG TV, yes.
All these years we have been watching TV, and now the tables have turned. The TVs are watching us.
Damn, this day sounds awesome.
Ideal day tbh
I have the perfect timepiece. It tells the time and that’s it. It syncs to atomic time so it’s always accurate and charges by solar so it’s never dead. It has no transmitter or audio capabilities.
Hey! Mine not only tells the time, but also the day of the week and month, and has an integrated alarm clock and stopwatch. Battery lasts for seven years, keeps time to within a few minutes per year, is cheap enough so that I don’t mind wearing it when I’m cycling as I can just replace it if I break it, and it has a celebrity endorsement. Of sorts, anyway.
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CASIO the Nokias of watches
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Their Israeli R&D center hard at work
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Coming soon! The iWatch U
is this for people with Alzheimers? do people not remember what they did through the day or need more granuality? took a shit vs took a shit fron 9:05:47 to 9:35:48 vs did i shit today ?
Who wouldn’t want that in their life?
Is this even legal in the eu?
It will be with the right bribes
Who is dumb enough to think they want or need this? We’re all aware that this is just more data collection, right?
You would be surprised. Perhaps astonished. Certainly dismayed.
/google anything like how to partition a drive in Linux/ /bunch of minutes-long videos appear/
nah. we will cry when when see how many humans think this is cool
I don’t need recaps; I was literally there.
You will once you’ve got permanent brain fog from super Covid.
“I have nothing to hide, not even the private conversation happening next to me”
Oh great, now we’re all going to have to buy voice modulators that interject some kind of patterned noise that scrambles audio recording. Just like those masks that interfere with video.
The privacy arms race has begun.
In a decade we’ll all be wearing privacy helmets.
Wait, that sounds kind of cool actually.
Daft punk was ahead of their time
Huuuuuuuuumaaaan !!!
Its gonna keep a scoreboard of how much you crank your hog
I wonder what goes through these designers’ minds
They’re so fucking desperate to find any use of this technology…
Since we’re headed headfirst for a dystopian world of social credid and whatnot, I’m gonna invest in sarcasm.